The networks would literally shit themselves if the first game in a double header in the playoffs went into unlimited OT. everyone else would be fine, adjust and love it but the networks would literally shit themselves.
NFC Divisional Round Game Thread: Packers at Cardinals
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Just to say, at least it's better than the previous rules where a team just had to get a FG to win.
Arians is pretty clearly a top coach in the league but both the pass on second and the blitz on the Hail Mary were inexplicably bad decision.
Yeah, it's about time those four bandwagon fucking yahoo Cardinals fans caught a break.
That was probably the most exciting 4th quarter/overtime I've ever watched. Glad Arizona won, but I would have been happy either way after all that went down.
If the Cards, and particularly Palmer, play as they did tonight, Carolina or Sea will probably have their way with them.
GB delivered more than I expected this post-season. It's o-line was a mess, and of course the receiver situation. Defense played well these last two weeks.
Can you imagine how many injuries there would be if two teams had to play like, 6, 8 quarters of football in a row? At best, the winning team would probably get rolled the next week, they'd be so sore.
I do think both teams should get a possession regardless.
The playoffs are as many quarters as necessary. What are all of you talking about?
Closest I can find is two in many cases, potentially three games, if I can have some details on the last game. This would be the 1991/92 to 1993/94 Oilers:
1991-92, Divisional: Denver's David Treadwell hits a 28 yarder for the 26-24 win.
1992-93, Wild Card: Steve Christie hits an OT kick for the 41-38 win.
1993-94, Divisional: This one I'm less sure on, couldn't find the time of score, but Marcus Allen is described as having a game-clinching 21-yard touchdown run on the WorldLibrary page about that season's playoffs. I was under two when this happened, so this goes a touch before the scope of my memory. Can anyone confirm/deny?
I have a hypothetical question for you experts: if there is no hands to the face penalty on the Peterson runback and the only penalty is on him for taunting, would the TD still count? I have only seen that called as a dead ball play, but he was still running when they called it this time.
Just curious, thanks...
Just curious, thanks...
Yes. The penalty would be assessed as a dead ball penalty. The fact that his "taunting" doesn't change the result of the play doesn't change the dead ball, after the play assessment.
I assume he meant that the game wouldn't be over until the end of the first OT, so if it's tied after 15 minutes (no matter if the previous 15 minutes were scoreless or if one team took a 14 point lead, only to lose it in the final 2 minutes), they play another full quarter. I believe he's saying that no matter what, OT needs to be at least 15 minutes long.
Great result. I'm sick of Rodgers getting lucky on those Hail Mary passes. His stats, already pedestrian, are going to look way better with that. But I love seeing him lose.
Personally I think he's a bit overrated. GTF off Brady's lawn.
Personally I think he's a bit overrated. GTF off Brady's lawn.
I've got nothing against Rodgers (except jealousy over his gf) but I agree that it seems crazy with the Hail Marys. That said, he's gotten fucked a couple times on calls as well. I'm not sure what the argument against him is tho unless you hate his commercials. He seems about as benign as could be for a non rival stud QB.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/14587101/green-bay-packers-left-scratching-heads-coin-toss-catch-ruling-loss-arizona-cardinals
I´m just a casual NFL watcher. Can somebody explain, why the Packers are complaining here, if they have a case, or if that´s just whining at it´s best?
On hand is: a) One timeout burned, no points scored on Fitzgerald´s catch, is McCarthy complaining about catches and rulings in general? b) Coin tossed two times. 50-50 chance, lost first time, coin didn´t turn, another toss, lost second time. Why does Rodgers complain about not getting to choose for the second toss? Isn´t that the most ridiculous thing ever?
I´m just a casual NFL watcher. Can somebody explain, why the Packers are complaining here, if they have a case, or if that´s just whining at it´s best?
On hand is: a) One timeout burned, no points scored on Fitzgerald´s catch, is McCarthy complaining about catches and rulings in general? b) Coin tossed two times. 50-50 chance, lost first time, coin didn´t turn, another toss, lost second time. Why does Rodgers complain about not getting to choose for the second toss? Isn´t that the most ridiculous thing ever?
Yes. 15 minutes, if it's tied after that is t ends in a tie, in the playoffs it's another quarter. Maybe in the playoffs it's sudden death after 15 minutes.
And in the other football, they play two 15 minute periods before going to penalty kicks (although some tournaments go to the penalty kicks immediately)
I really don't get the need for people to shit on Rodgers. The guy is great and fun to watch. Has it reached the point as Pats fans that we can't enjoy another great QB because some people might think he's better than Brady?
I can see why he's complaining about the Fitzgerald catch call. Sure, it was a close play and could have gone either way, but it was almost exactly like the Dez Bryant "drop" last season so I'm not sure why it was called differently. And because he lost the challenge, McCarthy wasn't able to challenge either of the very close 1st down conversions later in the 4th quarter. I think he would have lost both had he challenged, but each spot would have been a... coin flip, so to speak. Plus the timeout would have come in handy on that last drive of course.
I agree that the coin toss complaining is pretty ridiculous. Was it another in a line of stupid coin toss behavior by Clete Blakeman? Yes. But whining about wanting to change your choice is just being a sore coin toss loser.
Seriously. I'm a Rodgers fan. I like Carson Palmer's late-career improvement story too, but if you switch him and Rodgers last night Arizona wins by three scores.
But there is the weird case where if Peterson had made the INT, ran down the sideline, and taunted, but on replay review they see his foot was oob when he made the pick, the taunting foul still gets assessed in green bays favor, I think.
If you fuck up trying to flip a coin, what does that say about your attention to detail with a game in full motion?
Somewhere, I saw Rodgers' pass referred to as a "Hail Mary" and Fitz's big catch in OT as a "Hail Larry." That's good.
Lucky it fell the Cards way twice otherwise he'd be dealing with at least a small controversy.
It's unbelievable the refs screwed up that coinflip. Blakeman just made an executive decision to flip again???? How many more kinds of high profile screwups can the refs conceive?
I cannot believe how badly Arizona bungled the last two minutes, from throwing the ball to blitzing on a hail mary with a mobile QB (wtf!). Fitzgerald saved Arians a lot of negative press over the next 8 months. Rodgers gets credit for that throw, no doubt, but I think the catch by Janis was better. What an incredible effort, I think he had 98 yards receiving on that drive alone.
If this makes you feel any better, Peter King tweeted a few days ago that he heard Blakeman and Corrente were the favorites to officiate the Superbowl.
Because of the illegal motion penalty, he actually had 101 yards receiving on that drive.
I'd have to spend more time thinking about it and going through games to put forth a definitive answer, but the first game that comes to mind is the Pats-Panthers Super Bowl. That 4th quarter was absolutely bonkers. And it was in a Super Bowl that ended with the team I root for winning. Hard to top that.
Didn't we find out after the fact that Blakeman got the overtime coin toss in the pats/jets game 100% correct and actually went beyond what he needed to do and spoke to Bill about what his decision would be before the toss even happened? Slater was the confused party there not Blakeman
I'm a Washington fan, so there haven't been a lot of highlights for me to remember.
Missed the game and watched the highlights. NFL.com makes you watch a thirty second commercial between clips. Assholes. YouTube at least had some compilations from NFL Network.
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The NFL confirmed this morning that its rules do not require a coin to actually flip during the coin toss. But it said referee Clete Blakeman made a judgment call out of fairness Saturday night in overtime at University of Phoenix Stadium. The league's statement: "There is nothing in the rule book that specifies this. But the referee used his judgment to determine that basic fairness dictated that the coin should flip for the toss to be valid. That is why he re-tossed the coin."
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The NFL confirmed this morning that its rules do not require a coin to actually flip during the coin toss. But it said referee Clete Blakeman made a judgment call out of fairness Saturday night in overtime at University of Phoenix Stadium. The league's statement: "There is nothing in the rule book that specifies this. But the referee used his judgment to determine that basic fairness dictated that the coin should flip for the toss to be valid. That is why he re-tossed the coin."
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It was a judgment call based upon the fact that the coin didn't flip. The rules don't say it has to flip. But does the rule book say it DOES have to flip? If it doesn't, maybe a coin that actually flips is the problem.
You see the issue here? In that, it is no issue. The NFL is a debacle in a lot of ways but the ref choked on the coin flip and immediately flipped it correctly, which should have made everyone happy.
Who cares? Green Bay lost both coin flips anyway. Rodgers' gripe was that he couldn't change his decision on the second flip. This whole thing is dumb.
Also, the overtime rules suck. Both teams should get a chance to have the ball, under any and all circumstances, including an opening drive TD.