Devonta Adams and Randall Cobb aren't weapons either. But they catch a lot of balls in Green Bay. You're making a ridiculous argument, stipulating Welker and Edelman weren't stud receivers. Plus Gronk and Hernandez, while he was playing.Only one guy on that list is a true #1 wide out, and he was here for what, 2 years? And during that time, Brady annhilated the record books. I'm obviously talking about the non-Moss years. The rest of those guys are who they are because of Brady and the offense he runs, and would be nothing more than Cole Beasley anywhere else. Cole Beasley is not a "weapon." But he'd catch 95 balls in New England.
Yeah, because that's what I said. Exactly.I mean, you're right, Brady's always had garbage players, who didn't know what they were doing. Probably way the Patriots have made it to 6 straight championship games. Because their players suck.
The pick sorta forced the official's hand. Wonder if that's a no-call if the pass hits the ground.After all the stuff let go today, hard to believe we see a PI call now.
Immediately what I thoughtIsn't that holding or illegal contact
Yes, on the reverse angle looked like it was before the ball was released.shoukd have been holding I think
they picked it up last week when the seahawks were playing the lionsRefs pick up the flag if the Cowboys are playing the Lions.
Flag aready in air it looked likeThe pick sorta forced the official's hand. Wonder if that's a no-call if the pass hits the ground.
Flag was thrown before pickThe pick sorta forced the official's hand. Wonder if that's a no-call if the pass hits the ground.
Jordy Nelson is a perennial top 10 DVOA WR, and Cobb and Jones have joined him some years. Other than Moss, I don't think a Patriots WR has ever cracked the top 10 with Brady.Which guys does Rodgers have who were stars without him? Giving Brady credit for every breakout receiver and no blame for the early round and big name busts, then negating Rodgers for making his early round picks good is dumb.
Maybe, but was the flag flying before the pick was made?The pick sorta forced the official's hand. Wonder if that's a no-call if the pass hits the ground.
Not at all. Even if he kicks the FG there's a LOT of time left.Ballgame.
That isn't even close to how this conversation started, that's where you guys took it. Right now, without Adams and Nelson, Rodgers has a group of receivers that resemble the receiving corps the Patriots have trotted out for the majority of Brady's career. That's it.Which guys does Rodgers have who were stars without him? Giving Brady credit for every breakout receiver and no blame for the early round and big name busts, then negating Rodgers for making his early round picks good is dumb.
I'm saying if there was no DB back there -- when he threw the flag, it was clear that only the defender had a chance to catch the ball.Flag was thrown before pick
I mean.... That's because they have a great QB and throw a shit ton? It's a circular argument to discount a guy's performance because of his performance.Jordy Nelson is a perennial top 10 DVOA WR, and Cobb and Jones have joined him some years. Other than Moss, I don't think a Patriots WR has ever cracked the top 10 with Brady.