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He’s a guy I wanted NE to check on. I think he’s a good player and I didn’t think he’d be very expensive.
 

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Fields is interesting. The cold logical move is to hold him and wait for a playoff hopeful with a weak backup to lose their QB.
The flip side is the stuff you can't see from the outside... how does that play in the locker room, is it a distraction,etc. I wouldn't be worried too much about Caleb having issues, but if Caleb struggles does it get toxic with vets who support Fields?

My guess is for now maybe they hold him until the draft then go back to the QB needy teams that don't get one... DEN, MIN, etc.
Are giving him the 5th year? That’s a big consideration if you hold onto him.
 

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People just don’t trade the number 1 pick, but I guess the Bears may be thinking there is not much downside to waiting until after the draft to decide on Fields. Maybe the Broncos or someone comes in and offers them the moon to draft Williams. Keeping Fields allows them to at least entertain the possibility of listening to offers on trading the first pick. Even if the chances are close to zero, if the most anyone is offering is a sixth or something, then why not just play it out?
 

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People just don’t trade the number 1 pick, but I guess the Bears may be thinking there is not much downside to waiting until after the draft to decide on Fields. Maybe the Broncos or someone comes in and offers them the moon to draft Williams. Keeping Fields allows them to at least entertain the possibility of listening to offers on trading the first pick. Even if the chances are close to zero, if the most anyone is offering is a sixth or something, then why not just play it out?
Bears trading the first overall pick two years in a row would be something. Worked out pretty well last year. I don't think it's happening this time. My guess is that they have a few offers for Fields but they not very good ones and they're in no rush. So yeah, play it out. If things get contentious with Williams, they can just cut Fields if it comes to that.
 

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huh.
A bit weird for the Bears, I guess maybe they think Caleb will be ready right away, but a 32 year old WR on an expiring deal is a bit weird for a team that is drafting a QB. (though.... wow, they won 7 games last year? I just thought it was 5 for some reason).
 

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Old and not often available but I wouldn't have minded Pats doing that trade.
I probably wouldn't for a 4th, guys his age have a very limited history of being anywhere near as good. Not sure I'd want to move a borderline top 100 pick for a 1 year binkie for the new QB... give Mike Williams the money, more likely to give you production past this year.
 

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The Patriots are determined to never have a #1 WR
I honestly ask this... why would you want to trade a pretty good pick to pay 23M to a 32 year old WR? Do you think this team is Keenan Allen away from a SB run? He makes no sense for this team
 

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Now you try to bluff Arizona into giving something up for #3 to guarantee they get MHJ (maybe Chargers would jump up to get him for Herbert).
 

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Old and not often available but I wouldn't have minded Pats doing that trade.
Hes played at least 13 games in 6 of the last 7 seasons (10 in the other season) and IMO, is coming off the best season of his career averaging 95ypg and 7tds in 13 games.

This is a steal for Chicago, and he now plays opposite DJ Moore, with Kmet rolling in the middle. They brought in Swift to man the backfield, added Everett as a 2nd TE, added o line help, brought in Byard at safety, Jaylon Johnson at corner...

If they hit on Caleb Williams and their #9 pick, things are going to get crazy in the Windy City. GB, CHI, Detroit....division will be fun to watch.
 

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I honestly ask this... why would you want to trade a pretty good pick to pay 23M to a 32 year old WR? Do you think this team is Keenan Allen away from a SB run? He makes no sense for this team
I was told that the Pats were an average QB away from the playoffs. Assuming they draft that guy, wouldn’t adding a guy like Allen make them a contender?

That being said, Allen was pretty clear about only wanting to be traded to a few teams and I’m guessing that perhaps the NEP were not on that list:
 

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I honestly ask this... why would you want to trade a pretty good pick to pay 23M to a 32 year old WR? Do you think this team is Keenan Allen away from a SB run? He makes no sense for this team
I want this next young qb to have a line and a proven wr1 to help him develop. Allen plus the 2nd and 3rd rounders on OL goes a long way. It's not about winning short term its about putting our young qb in position to succeed, something NEVER done for mac.
 

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Hes played at least 13 games in 6 of the last 7 seasons (10 in the other season) and IMO, is coming off the best season of his career averaging 95ypg and 7tds in 13 games.

This is a steal for Chicago, and he now plays opposite DJ Moore, with Kmet rolling in the middle. They brought in Swift to man the backfield, added Everett as a 2nd TE, added o line help, brought in Byard at safety, Jaylon Johnson at corner...

If they hit on Caleb Williams and their #9 pick, things are going to get crazy in the Windy City. GB, CHI, Detroit....division will be fun to watch.
Yeah…I can’t believe anyone is acting like a 4th for Keenan Allen is anything other than great
 

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I honestly ask this... why would you want to trade a pretty good pick to pay 23M to a 32 year old WR? Do you think this team is Keenan Allen away from a SB run? He makes no sense for this team
So you don't Mac Jones your Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels?

Keenan Allen is an expensive set of training wheels but I'd rather pay $23M in cap space and a 4th round pick to support a rookie QB's development in a losing season than draft the next Atonio Mafi, save a couple mil for next year, and throw a top-3 pick into a dumpster fire of an offense.
 

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I want this next young qb to have a line and a proven wr1 to help him develop. Allen plus the 2nd and 3rd rounders on OL goes a long way. It's not about winning short term its about putting our young qb in position to succeed, something NEVER done for mac.
well the latter is just obviously untrue, as to the former... I think 1 year bandaids at WR do nothing to help a QB develop (if that QB even starts next year).
 

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well the latter is just obviously untrue, as to the former... I think 1 year bandaids at WR do nothing to help a QB develop (if that QB even starts next year).
What? You don’t think a Keenan Allen could help a QB more than a 4th round pick? Come on
 

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well the latter is just obviously untrue, as to the former... I think 1 year bandaids at WR do nothing to help a QB develop (if that QB even starts next year).
Huh?

Mac was never given a WR1 binkie like many young qbs are.

Don't use terms like "obviously " if you are making a subjective argument. You know Belichick had historically not prioritized elite wr.
 

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I honestly ask this... why would you want to trade a pretty good pick to pay 23M to a 32 year old WR? Do you think this team is Keenan Allen away from a SB run? He makes no sense for this team
Yeah, $23 million for a one year rental? The Patriots have $53 million in space. They need $10 million for the rookies and $10 to $12 million to get through the year. Allen would have been their last significant FA move. Let’s see what else they do with the money.
 

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What? You don’t think a Keenan Allen could help a QB more than a 4th round pick? Come on
For the first year... maybe? I think he's got no real role long term and you can sign a WR. If Keenan Allen were 30 I'd be all over it, but I think people are wildly overvaluing the magic beans effect of a WR to a QB's development, the line is far more important.
 

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Yeah…I can’t believe anyone is acting like a 4th for Keenan Allen is anything other than great
It is a fourth plus $23 million. Just for 2024. That is a hefty price tag. If this were MLB where cap doesn’t roll over, ok. But that is a lot of money for a bridge year.
 

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Great move for the Bears. They have the cap space and he slots in perfectly next to Moore. With Swift and Everett in the mix plus 3 new OL brought into town, it’s a new look offense for Waldron.

Except for Fields….

The Bears still need another edge to play opposite Sweat. They haven’t announced numbers for all the free agent deals yet, but I’d put their remaining cap space in the $10-15m (draft picks included). That might be enough for one of the edges looking for a price it deal like Barnett or Davenport.

Whatever Poles decides to do, he’ll have options at #9. Turner or Verse slot in perfectly, but if one of the Big 3 WR we’re to drop, it might be too good to pass up. Or they the Bears could try to drop down into the 20s to recoup a 2nd rounder, grab both tier 2 edge and WR.
 

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Yeah, $23 million for a one year rental? The Patriots have $53 million in space. They need $10 million for the rookies and $10 to $12 million to get through the year. Allen would have been their last significant FA move. Let’s see what else they do with the money.
The $53 million already accounts for the draft signings.
 

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Huh?

Mac was never given a WR1 binkie like many young qbs are.

Don't use terms like "obviously " if you are making a subjective argument. You know Belichick had historically not prioritized elite wr.
You said Mac was NEVER put in position to succeed, that is obviously untrue. His rookie year he was given a ton of weapons a very good line an excellent OC and handheld all the way... it was trumpeted as the prototype of how to help your QB succeed... it then fell apart because the OC left, the line declined and Mac didn't improve and lacked the physical and mental traits to compete in the NFL... but Mac was very much an example of short term bandaid year 1 QB handholding. They spent a record amount on that offense.
 

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It is a fourth plus $23 million. Just for 2024. That is a hefty price tag. If this were MLB where cap doesn’t roll over, ok. But that is a lot of money for a bridge year.
The bears have a ton of cap room. That doesn’t matter to them
 

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Who's left at WR that could at least be a 2/3?

Hollywood Brown
OBJ
Boyd
Mike Williams

Higgins is out, I'm pretty sure. The rest of that is pretty sparse.

Edit: well, strike Brown.
 

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For the first year... maybe? I think he's got no real role long term and you can sign a WR. If Keenan Allen were 30 I'd be all over it, but I think people are wildly overvaluing the magic beans effect of a WR to a QB's development, the line is far more important.
Id be happy if they did on the line but that's not happening either, unless it's Smith.
 

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Keenan Allen is a massive help for any young QB. He knows how to get open consistently and can catch the ball. If you can take the 1 year cap hit, it’s a no brainer
 

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Hollywood is such a sickeningly perfect fit for KC. That offense is going to steamroll once again if Kelce stays good.
 

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Id be happy if they did on the line but that's not happening either, unless it's Smith.
Or they can make a trade. Honestly I think Mike Williams would be a better fit than Allen at WR. Not sure if they'll go that route given the injury, but that makes sense.