NY signs Brian McCann to a 5/$85M deal
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Of all of the rumors around NY so far this offseason, McCann is the guy that makes the least sense to me. He's a below average defender who will increasingly need to play DH going forward, and who is going to get a massive deal. They wouldn't pay Russell Martin 2/14 last winter but now they're going to play McCann 5/75 or whatever the hell it's going to take, plus a 1st round pick? FWIW, Martin's 2011-2013 combined fWAR was 8.8, McCann's 8.3.
Pure idiocy if this happens, dumbest move for NY since signing Ichiro for non-baseball reasons (to sell tickets even though he sucks).
Pure idiocy if this happens, dumbest move for NY since signing Ichiro for non-baseball reasons (to sell tickets even though he sucks).
I mean, this is a LOT of money:
"The bidding for McCann will be fierce. In addition to the Yankees, Boston and Texas are reportedly interested. One executive polled yesterday suggested McCann would receive a six-year, $100 million contract. Another predicted the package would top $120 million."
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2013/11/brian_mccann_could_be_solution_for_yankees_catching_woes.html
"The bidding for McCann will be fierce. In addition to the Yankees, Boston and Texas are reportedly interested. One executive polled yesterday suggested McCann would receive a six-year, $100 million contract. Another predicted the package would top $120 million."
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2013/11/brian_mccann_could_be_solution_for_yankees_catching_woes.html
YES PLEASE SIGN HIM. My least favorite player in baseball who isn't currently a Yankee ON the Yankees? That's heaven.
I honestly don't think McCann would be that bad of a signing. He has value defensively and a $15-16 million salary is pretty reasonable for a player of his caliber. Fangraphs had him as the biggest value on the market at the crowd sourced salary that was estimated for him. There's obviously some concern about the amount of innings he's spent behind the plate, but he could transition to DH.
I was more hoping the Yankees would sign Salty or Beltran. I think those are deals they'd regret.
I was more hoping the Yankees would sign Salty or Beltran. I think those are deals they'd regret.
Francesa was saying that season tickets get locked-in mid-December so the Yanks may be forced to overpay for some kind of splash as renewals are potentially going to be lackluster.
With limited dollars available to spend on multiple holes I would think the Yankees would be more interested in Salty. They won't lose a pick and the Red Sox offer of 2/20 is easily beaten with more years, with an AAV about 5 million less than McCann. Salty could DH and/or move to 1B in the latter years of a 4 yr deal.
Sampo Gida said:
I'd rather the Yankees pay through the nose for McCann than sign Salty to a four-year deal. Four years of watching Salty strike out? No thanks.
Bongorific said:
I'm glad the Sox aren't giving this guy the time of day. He'll be 30 on opening day, he's not very good at throwing runners out and he' might be good for another couple of years offensively, but by 32 or 33 he'll be an average hitter at best with another 3-4 years on his deal for 15 mil per.
Let the Yankees get him for 5 or 6 years and lose their pick, I have no qualms with that.
DrewDawg said:
Wieters basically got Proctored as a catcher. He's led the AL in games caught for the last two years and was second in the AL for the two years prior to that. As a hitter now, he's Jarrod Saltalamacchia minus forty points of batting average. .235/.287/.417 isn't exactly what the Yankees are looking for in a backstop.
McCann on the verge of a deal with the Yankees.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/11/sources-texas-rangers-will-not-land-brian-mccann-catcher-on-verge-of-deal-with-new-york-yankees.html/
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/11/sources-texas-rangers-will-not-land-brian-mccann-catcher-on-verge-of-deal-with-new-york-yankees.html/
Signing McCann only makes sense if you are going for it in 2014 and plan to stick the 189 million where the sun don't shine. Of course, they might just be giving season ticket holders an incentive to send those checks, and/or they may have decided to move on from Cano
By losing their 1st round pick with Mcann it makes going after other FA with a QO less costly (2nd round pick in the 50's).
Anyways, 1 hole filled, 6 more to go. (edit -assuming the rumor is true)
By losing their 1st round pick with Mcann it makes going after other FA with a QO less costly (2nd round pick in the 50's).
Anyways, 1 hole filled, 6 more to go. (edit -assuming the rumor is true)
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal1m
Source: McCann close with #Yankees on five-year deal for more than $80M.
Source: McCann close with #Yankees on five-year deal for more than $80M.
soxhop411 said:
I just can't reconcile it with passing on Russell Martin for 2/17 last season. Martin already knew the pitching staff and compiled a fWAR of 8.8 combined the last three seasons, McCann has put up 8.3 in the same time (and two of Martin's three years were in the AL East). McCann is one year younger than Martin, still no idea why they let him go.
If they give 16+ to McCann and resign Cano at 27+, they're going to have some holes in the rotation and/or pen. Or need to go past 189. All good things.
I just find it unlikely he's worth $16 mil for more than a couple of years at this stage of his career, if ever again. However, he does have enough of a bat that you could imagine a Napoli-esque path where he's a not-terrible 1b/DH option for the last year or two. But is it really a good contract to get 2-3 years of overpaid (but valuable) catching and 2-3 of suboptimal corner production? Doesn't seem like it to me.
I can take some solace in the fact that the Red Sox wouldn't have touched that deal with a ten foot pole. Can you imagine Ben paying an aging catcher 16+ million a season? Me neither.
I can't believe people actually thought the Yankees were going to start being fiscally responsible.
Rosenthal saying 5/$85 with a 6th year vesting option that could make it 6/$100.
Edit: Heyman confirms 5/$85 part.
And Rosenthal saying done deal pending physical.
Edit: Heyman confirms 5/$85 part.
And Rosenthal saying done deal pending physical.
rembrat said:
The funny thing about those opt outs is they actually could have all ended up working out great for NY. Soriano left a year early, NY got out of the largest year of his deal and got a #1 pick back. And A-Rod and CC's would have worked out great for NY if they had just let them go, the real mistake was signing them both again after they opted out.
Wow. 5/6 years seems way too long with no obvious discount for the length either.
I think we are all a bit low on contracts due to the extra money coming. But still I don't fully understand how you do this and fill all the other holes and this yet another too long contract that has a huge chance of being a real burden later.
I don't know, without an unlimited budget, how this makes them compete now or rebuild and the halfway is nowhere.
I think we are all a bit low on contracts due to the extra money coming. But still I don't fully understand how you do this and fill all the other holes and this yet another too long contract that has a huge chance of being a real burden later.
I don't know, without an unlimited budget, how this makes them compete now or rebuild and the halfway is nowhere.
At the very least the Yankees will lap the league in Douchebags Above Replacement for the next few next years.
LondonSox said:
I'll believe there is not an unlimited budget when I see it---for many years we've heard there is limit..or about to be one..or we're really really serious about there being one now...and then the signings that offseason proved that was not the case.
