“Gabagool” is awesome, and should definitely be his Port Cellar nickname if he sticks around. Would make a nice appetizer for Earl (The Goat) Manigott.Exactly.
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“Gabagool” is awesome, and should definitely be his Port Cellar nickname if he sticks around. Would make a nice appetizer for Earl (The Goat) Manigott.Exactly.
He may get easier assignments, but teams definitely try attacking him, and it doesn’t really work.I see you, #3.
Yeah. He's also gotten really strong in his 30s, so trying to bully him on either end of the floor doesn't work like it used to.He may get easier assignments, but teams definitely try attacking him, and it doesn’t really work.
He’s a REALLY smart defensive player.
Yeah I should have phrased that better, I meant that teams try to force switches so they can attack Steph on the defensive end. But….it doesn’t really work.Yeah. He's also gotten really strong in his 30s, so trying to bully him on either end of the floor doesn't work like it used to.
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He also gets attacked out of pure desperation, in the theory that calories burned on D won’t be used on O. Didn’t love how that played out most recently, but even if he’s holding up it’s still probably the right choice to keep going at him.Yeah I should have phrased that better, I meant that teams try to force switches so they can attack Steph on the defensive end. But….it doesn’t really work.
It’s a credit to him, especially because I still see people try to make him sound like a bad defender.
What I do when I see something like that, is go and check the matchup difficulty on bball index. Then I just use a combination of that, the numbers from above, and eye test.thanks for posting
most defensive metrics are pretty questionable but that list is about as good as it gets (matches the eye test)
Meh. I’d like him better if he wasn’t such a ham.Seems like a decent enough candidate to take a flyer on to fill out a roster.
When I first saw his name I misread it as Bruno Capocollo.
That’s his brother, DeliMeh. I’d like him better if he wasn’t such a ham.
He's usually the weak point of the Warriors' D in the same way that Derrick White is the weak point of the Celtics' D. He isn't an all defense level point guard, but he hasn't been a liability on that end in forever.Yeah. He's also gotten really strong in his 30s, so trying to bully him on either end of the floor doesn't work like it used to.
He has never been a bad defender. He has had periods of slightly below average, but for most of his career has has been an above average defender. Harden should be taking whatever shit goes Steph's way for bad defense. His DARKO graph is pretty gross.Yeah I should have phrased that better, I meant that teams try to force switches so they can attack Steph on the defensive end. But….it doesn’t really work.
It’s a credit to him, especially because I still see people try to make him sound like a bad defender.
Yeah it's a pretty reliable list of on-ball awesomeness. Doesn't tell the off-ball story, but it sure as shit passes the eyeball test for on ball stoppers.thanks for posting
most defensive metrics are pretty questionable but that list is about as good as it gets (matches the eye test)
I love Bulpett, but no way I go with him over the combination of Shams, Woj, Windy, Fischer, and then the likes of KOC, Lowe, Weiss, Murphy, etc.maybe the Celtics didn't offer Brown +White + pick for KD?
https://heavy.com/sports/brooklyn-nets/kevin-durant-to-meet-joe-tsai-trade-demand/
There was a recent report that the Nets had weeks ago turned down an offer of Jaylen Brown, Derrick White and a first round pick from the Celtics, but others have disputed to Heavy that such a proposal was ever truly on the table.
A personnel exec from another club expressed disappointment with the process.
“I think there’s some teams that aren’t very happy that when they talk to Brooklyn it gets in the papers,” he said. “That doesn’t help. I’ve talked with a couple of teams that are not happy with the rumors that creep out of there through all this. It’s not a good way to do business.”
Unless, perhaps, the Nets are trying to roil the waters in Boston and damage the relationship with Brown.
It depends on what you mean by “make an offer”. If you have a conversation with another team;I love Bulpett, but no way I go with him over the combination of Shams, Woj, Windy, Fischer, and then the likes of KOC, Lowe, Weiss, Murphy, etc.
But they aren't mutually exclusive. If it's part of Brooklyn's agenda and they put it out there, it's not like all these reporters were wrong. Brooklyn might just have gone too far with something they had done previously with other teams, and the Celtics reacted in a stronger manner. Nets might have touched the stove on this one.I love Bulpett, but no way I go with him over the combination of Shams, Woj, Windy, Fischer, and then the likes of KOC, Lowe, Weiss, Murphy, etc.
I will say Lowe on his pod was talking with someone (Marks?) about how the idea that there are "offers" like it's fantasy football isn't really accurate, you just talk about guys and it's very fluid, so when you hear that an offer was made.. unless it was something that was ready to go to the league and got shot down by the owner, it is more "we discussed these guys in non-concrete terms"I love Bulpett, but no way I go with him over the combination of Shams, Woj, Windy, Fischer, and then the likes of KOC, Lowe, Weiss, Murphy, etc.
This.I will say Lowe on his pod was talking with someone (Marks?) about how the idea that there are "offers" like it's fantasy football isn't really accurate, you just talk about guys and it's very fluid, so when you hear that an offer was made.. unless it was something that was ready to go to the league and got shot down by the owner, it is more "we discussed these guys in non-concrete terms"
As to the reports from Woj and Shams... I trust 100% that what they printed is exactly what the BKN front office person told them, which is all they really do... they aren't investigating, thye just post what they get texted.
My guess is both sides are playing media games.I have a hard time seeing Brooklyn and Boston seriously engage with each other at all if Brown wasn't on the table, but I can buy that all the details beyond that were fluid.
But maybe Boston really isn't that interested in Durant and didn't engage beyond checking in or something.
I think it was Bontemps.I will say Lowe on his pod was talking with someone (Marks?) about how the idea that there are "offers" like it's fantasy football isn't really accurate, you just talk about guys and it's very fluid, so when you hear that an offer was made.. unless it was something that was ready to go to the league and got shot down by the owner, it is more "we discussed these guys in non-concrete terms"
As to the reports from Woj and Shams... I trust 100% that what they printed is exactly what the BKN front office person told them, which is all they really do... they aren't investigating, thye just post what they get texted.
Exactly.I think it was Bontemps.
IIRC, one of them also said - and the other agreed - that everyone knows that JT is off the table so JB would have to be the centerpiece of a trade and as such the teams could discuss JB without ever mentioning him name.
"We need two starters and picks."
"No we are giving up two starters and we're not giving up multiple picks."
Yeah we're guessing. Point is that the Celtics wouldn't leak that. So Brooklyn is either leaking it or pushing a false narrative. Either is believable to me.I mean we are all guessing here, but it seems just as likely that there was an offer of Brown, White, pick(s) as there wasn't.
I'd rather he gets it and is all but guaranteed to stay here long-term. Guys leave some money on the table, but not megabucks. I think that every team can afford one of those guys without having to load up with a full JAG bench. Especially if they can keep signing other rotation guys to cost effective deals like Marcus and TL.Is that a good or bad outcome for the C's? I get it's bad financially but it basically keeps Tatum locked here.
There is a third alternative too though. Boston may not want it leaked, but that doesn't prevent someone from opening their mouth a bit too much or someone becoming privy to the information in some other way.Yeah we're guessing. Point is that the Celtics wouldn't leak that. So Brooklyn is either leaking it or pushing a false narrative. Either is believable to me.
Yeah but this front office has no history of it, and Brooklyn's does. It's not a coin flip where this came from. Of course anything is possible. Sometimes the dog actually does eat the homework.There is a third alternative too though. Boston may not want it leaked, but that doesn't prevent someone from opening their mouth a bit too much or someone becoming privy to the information in some other way.
Leaks happen all the time. And they come from any and every side of the equation.
It’s a great outcome for Boston, 35% max with 8% raises vs 30% max with 5% raises amounts to a pretty pile of cash. With the cap going up Boston is pretty well situated.Is that a good or bad outcome for the C's? I get it's bad financially but it basically keeps Tatum locked here.
BingoIt’s a great outcome for Boston, 35% max with 8% raises vs 30% max with 5% raises amounts to a pretty pile of cash. With the cap going up Boston is pretty well situated.
Yup. Anything that increases the odds of Tatum sticking around in Boston for the entirety of his prime is great news for us. Only potential downside is if his play is impacted by trying to put up numbers to solidify this. Fortunately, I think the Finals run has raised his profile so much that he should be a semi-lock as long as he stays healthy and plays close to his capabilities.It’s a great outcome for Boston, 35% max with 8% raises vs 30% max with 5% raises amounts to a pretty pile of cash. With the cap going up Boston is pretty well situated.
Yeah. To accentuate the obvious, It would be kind of nice if he plays well enough to be All-NBA. If he doesn’t, the team’s ceiling gets much lower.Yup. Anything that increases the odds of Tatum sticking around in Boston for the entirety of his prime is great news for us. Only potential downside is if his play is impacted by trying to put up numbers to solidify this. Fortunately, I think the Finals run has raised his profile so much that he should be a semi-lock as long as he stays healthy and plays close to his capabilities.
Yeah, top 3 teams. The man is going to get supermaxxxed.IfWhen Jayson Tatum makes the 2023 All-NBA team
Edit: and yeah, fantastic outcome, given you're talking his peak age 26-30 seasons.
Edit #2: whoops, I misread that as "All-Star Team." I'd say it's basically 100% he's an All-Star, but maybe 50-50 he's All-NBA first team again?
Edit #3: oh wait, is "All-NBA" the top three teams? If so, that's probably 95%.
Luka-Tatum-Trae-Ja-BookerJust to start a new convo... who are your top 5 under 25?
Booker is already 25 and will be 26 before the season starts.Luka-Tatum-Trae-Ja-Booker
Really the only interesting spot.
Feel like Tatum, Ja and Luka are in pen. Trae is in pencil because of his D, and 5 is wide open.Luka-Tatum-Trae-Ja-Booker
Really the only interesting spot.