Fine move but we are going to need some bodies in the WR room. JJSS, Bourne, Thornton, Pop, Boutte. Has to be bottom three in the League as it stands now.
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1000%. Parker not being on the field means someone, anyone, else can be, which is good.
A Giants reporter is hearing Onwenu already has an offer for $19m per on the table.
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Pats lock up Onwenu and grab Brissett, making the obvious pick at #3 a QB.
That leaves 2 tackles - or a tackle and guard spot depending in how they view Onwenu.
Gimme Tyron Smith, Calvin Ridley, Danielle Hunter, and I'm good with rolling into the draft with a QB/Tackle combo with our first 2 picks.
That leaves 2 tackles - or a tackle and guard spot depending in how they view Onwenu.
Gimme Tyron Smith, Calvin Ridley, Danielle Hunter, and I'm good with rolling into the draft with a QB/Tackle combo with our first 2 picks.
That is absolutely my wishful thinking, too. That would be a GREAT haul. LFG.
With the Gibson signing this may be irrelevant (different RB roles understood), but how do people feel about Henry at RB? Best days are obviously behind him, but splitting the reps with Stevenson/Gibson could help extend his career a bit and Stevenson may not be around for much longer. I don't think Stevenson brings enough in return to justify a trade, but Henry intrigues given the likely rookie QB. Add Ridley at WR and go OT with the second pick, potentially trading up if there's a specific guy that you like most. I'd be ok with that plan.
Edit: much like KFP. Just add Henry too.
Edit 2: or maybe they a going to roll with Rourke. The Brissett signing leaves the trade down wide open.
Edit: much like KFP. Just add Henry too.
Edit 2: or maybe they a going to roll with Rourke. The Brissett signing leaves the trade down wide open.
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I’ll be honest. I like these deals in a vacuum because they’re good deals and not overpays. But right now we’re basically just running back the same offense that blew last year, so it’s putting a lot of emphasis on nailing the drafting. That’s not inherently bad, but I kind of want one more big piece outside of the draft. If the two FA adds are a backup QB and a third-down back, then you’re talking about still needing to add 2 WRs and a TE through the draft if no other moves come down later. Because Bourne and Pop need to be your WR3/4 right now and we still need another TE. Maybe they can get by with one more WR, but there still is nothing explosive happening in terms of skill players here.
They almost certainly need another RB, so anything is possible. My preference would be getting someone like Aaron Jones on a reasonable contract. That would give them 3 solid running backs to lean on.
My guess, however, is that they just bring back Elliot for peanuts. They have a lot of cap, but they can't splurge everywhere.
Well…to be fair, the backup we just signed is better than either if the 2 QB we had starting last year.
Only Day 1. I’m sure they’re actively trying to upgrade those spots. I’m starting to think Ridley smoke might be real.
It would be really nice to know what their cap situation is. I'm usually pretty good at estimating, but there really are too many variables right now.
It feels like maybe about $52 million in space? That would be my guess after the dust settles on the deals announced so far. $10 million for rookies, and another $12 million for the year, and that means without any corresponding moves, they have about $30 million in space. I think that's plenty for another impact player. If they are willing to give up draft capital, they can probably get 2 impact players. And still have some play money left.
From a potential 4-5 win team to a 6-7 win team. I'm not sure what they can do to change that. A true bridge year.
IDK. They could have won 6-7 pretty easily last year. Now maybe they are in the 8-10 range after it's all said and done. Baby steps.
He's probably going to have legit offers so no on Henry, but yeah he's a freak who will probably still be a top 10 RB next year.
Overall though, I think the RB depth chart is fine with a late round rookie.
My ideal remainder of FA is...
LT (Smith, but Williams is okay if Smith wants a contender, becton as emergency only)
WR- Brown ideally, but I'd consider Samuel, Boyd or Chark on the right deal
DL/Edge- Splash with Hunter would be great, but Young, or Wonnum (maybe even Lawson) would work
FS- Kurl, Fuller, Elliot
SS- work out a deal with Dugger (or I'm fine with him signing the tag)
Probably some other guys, but that would plug the major holes
Who here has seen him play meaningful minutes? I've never heard of him, and would love to hear an informed take. I see he tore his ACL in 2022 and came back from it exactly-ish a year ago. Here's a link to his stats:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3138834/sione-takitaki
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3138834/sione-takitaki
It really depends on whether we get CJ Stroud or Bryce Young at QB with #3 (or if have to play a middling Brissett for the entire season).
You want them to spend $20m+ on 2 safety spots? Even after the great year Peppers had (and his $6M contract hit)?
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It’s a two-year, $6.5 million deal that can be worth up to $10M with some likely to be earned for Takitaki
It’s a two-year, $6.5 million deal that can be worth up to $10M with some likely to be earned for Takitaki
Presumably in that scenario, Peppers is gone next year and Dugger slides into that opening
I had never heard of him until the Jets game at the end of last year, which I watched on red zone. Then I noticed him because of the name. He went off. He was basically everywhere all game. But that game seems like a bit of an outlier.
from random twitter land: Wolf was in Browns front office when they drafted Takitaki
well really I want them to spend no more than 6-18M combined, but I'd go to 20 if it was 1 year tag money for Dugger. But generally... sure why not? the 3 safety looks are one of the keys to the Beliichick/Mayo defense, and they've pretty consistently spent there, (McCourty and Phillips for example were 2 of the top 10 or so highest paid guys on the team for a while). I'd rather lock in those 2 guys, see what Peppers looks like in a year, and go after CB/DT/ED/LB in the draft where the positions are deep most years. I doubt any of the guys mentioned are getting more than 2-3 year deals, which means 1 or 2 year commitments.
I’m really pleased with the moves so far. They are retaining much of their best talent, getting rid of some dead weight, and signing quality starters at other positions, while leaving a ton of flexibility to make 3-4 huge splashes at WR, OL, DE, and possibly CB (via trade).
had some nice moments as a returner, probably basically no guarantees in the deal, bring him to camp let him compete for one of the last roster spots.
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There isn’t a lot of big name talent out there. At least not relative to the money they’d command.
They’re looking to lock up a core and probably build through the draft and with trades, which honestly is the path I’d prefer they take. I think they still sign some big names in FA, but they’re probably letting the market develop to make sure they aren’t overpaying for Jonnu Smith 2.0, which is smart.
They’re looking to lock up a core and probably build through the draft and with trades, which honestly is the path I’d prefer they take. I think they still sign some big names in FA, but they’re probably letting the market develop to make sure they aren’t overpaying for Jonnu Smith 2.0, which is smart.
I'm surprised NE hasn't been in on any marquee FA on the defensive side of the ball yet. There is a lot of depth to be had there and some high end starters, a lot more than on the offensive side. While it doesn't align with their urgent needs they really should be taking a BPA approach to FA given the dearth of talent on the roster across the board.
I love the optimism in here, though the comparison to me is striking relative to the Sox thread. So much positivity about basically bringing back the same team that went 3-14 last year — no big names, just Bourne / Henry / Onwenu / Reagor and others, and people are quite happy. We obviously have the draft coming up with #3, but we’re basically getting the band back together so far.
To be clear, I am excited too. I like all of the signings so far. I just think it is interesting.
To be clear, I am excited too. I like all of the signings so far. I just think it is interesting.
I think the situations are different because:
1. They added a QB, demonstrating a plan, and an OT, two of the biggest areas of concern.
2. It's day 1, they haven't really missed out on anyone, and they've avoided bad deals.
Now if they didn't sign anyone else (which they couldn't they have to spend 95% of the cap) the rest of the offseason that would be different.
The ideal offseason for the Patriots was always going to be.... bring back the best contributors who were FAs. Add a competent bridge QB, add at least 1 outside player who could at least start games at OT in the NFL, draft well, don't blow a ton of money long term on bad deals, add a few contributors for the re-build.
So far it looks like they are on the right track, and I think people realize that in a salary cap league you don't rebuild in one FA.
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Last year’s Patriots roster probably wins 8-9 games with Brissett. Or anyone else not named Mac Jones.
Last year felt like we went 3-14 with no plan. This year actually feels like there’s a plan in place. I’m happy to not be good if the team understands it’s not good. That was the failing of BB - he couldn’t see how bad the talent was.
The guys signed could be with the team 4-5 seasons. That’s way more preferable for a team in the Pats position than the big time 28 year old FA who’s effective for 2.
They haven't signed anyone for more than 3yrs and outside of Owenu the players they have signed are all over 28 so not sure this tracks.
Gibson is 25, but I take your point. I thought Takitaki was younger and I always forget how old Duggar is.
Reagor despite seeming like he's been in the league a decade is only 25, Okorafor is only 26 as well.
Generally though, I think they are good signings in terms of age (except maybe Henry).
I'm hoping they are in in Sneed or Higgins, and that they set a R3 pick as what they willing to pay and don't budge. (Probably won't get it done but we need that R2 pick for a WR or OT.). And consider Edge and one more OT. Then go bargain shopping for depth in advance of the draft.
