Patriots v. Broncos: Balls.

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I have a new and deeper understanding as to why so many long term relationships break up because of one night stands.

Balls.

Ryland
 
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Bill for getting his guys to continue to fight
Sean Payton. Those timeouts were lol. Must have forgot who he was coaching against
 

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I have a new snd deeper understanding as to why so many long term relationships break up over one night stands.

Balls.

Ryland
Ryland - hopefully the GW Fg gets his mojo back. That thing was crushed dead center.

Entire D - particularly Barmore

Zappe - he is gaining confidence. I feel the O goes quiet when play calling changes, like 2nd half steelers and those couple drives tonite.

entertaining as hell game
 

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Had BB not decided to turtle after the big 3rd quarter, Pats would have won this going away. Instead, they eek it out when the bends broke. Still an perversely entertaining game. Balls to Zappe, Barmore and Ryland.
 

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Payton getting cute and calling those timeouts.

Zappe out played Russ, whatever that's worth.

Barmore Barmore Barmore.

Myles Bryant continues to be the least talented player to ever make it on a Pats/BB team as long as he has.

For wideouts, Douglas was great, but Parker made the contested catches he was signed (and extended.......) to make.
 
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Pop was pretty good despite the drop on third down. The stats for the game are pretty interesting. Patriots were arguably outplayed, but a special teams TD makes a real difference.
 
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Barmore looks like he’s definitely taken the leap we hoped he would last year. He had a monster game

Zappe clearly isn’t a good NFL starting QB but having watched a ton of bad backups this season across the league, i think it’s clear he’s a top 55 QB

Parker and Douglas had nice games at WR

The entire secondary played pretty well especially given how low some of these guys should be on the depth chart

Zeke continues to be useful

Sidy Sow has quietly developed into a passable starting guard. Hope he continues to improve
 

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Ryland - hopefully the GW Fg gets his mojo back. That thing was crushed dead center.

Entire D - particularly Barmore

Zappe - he is gaining confidence. I feel the O goes quiet when play calling changes, like 2nd half steelers and those couple drives tonite.

entertaining as hell game
The first half was boring as hell. Great finish, of course, but series after series of three and outs had me falling asleep.
 

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The first half was boring as hell. Great finish, of course, but series after series of three and outs had me falling asleep.
In fairness to players on both teams, it was cold AF last night. I have been to several games in Denver and I remember years back, it may have been in 2017, I went to a game that IIRC was about 20 degrees and despite dressing in layers my toes were frozen by the third quarter. That stadium gets cold in December. I kind of forgive all guys on both teams for taking a bit to get into the swing of things, late-night December “cold” in Denver is one hell of a thing to experience.
 

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I'm really happy for Ryland. He's had a difficult season (obviously) and a rough game and then he absolutely drilled that game-winner from 56.
 

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I like kickers who fuck up and then come back nails. I’m still not really sure Ryland is worth even keeping next year, but that kick showed something.

Barmore and Gonzalez should be the core of the defense for the next 7-8 years.
 

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Very 8-D chess of Ryland to miss the XP so then he could get all the glory on the 56yd game winner
 

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Payton was cute with the timeouts but his defense had stuffed the Pats in the fourth quarter. He believed in his defense and they let him down.

Zappe is at least a cheap backup going forward. The team was undermanned and showed some toughness.
 

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Payton was cute with the timeouts but his defense had stuffed the Pats in the fourth quarter. He believed in his defense and they let him down.
That was my thought in real time too, but on reflection, it was second and four. That is just too short a distance to call time out.
 

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IDK what these stats are worth but Zappe had the second highest graded game of any QB this year according to PFF.
 

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I'm really happy for Ryland. He's had a difficult season (obviously) and a rough game and then he absolutely drilled that game-winner from 56.
Just the way he responded when Bill praised him tells you as much – nodding quietly, looking down.

By the same token, I’m pretty sure I saw Mac celebrating with Zappe at one point last night.

Screw it. I want them to beat Buffalo next week and screw their season, draft position be damned.
I keep wanting them to lose in the abstract but can’t actively root for them to fail. And yes, two Buffalo wins would be amazing
 

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"Myles Bryant continues to be the least talented player to ever make it on a Pats/BB team as long as he has."


I'm going with Ferentz on this one.
 

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I keep wanting them to lose in the abstract but can’t actively root for them to fail. And yes, two Buffalo wins would be amazing
This is me. I want a better draft pick so that means I want them to lose. But when I’ve got them on the TV I can’t help but root for them to win.
 

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Broncos burned a 1st and a 2nd for Sean Peyton.
Sean Peyton has a losing record after torching Nate Hackett for his lack of coaching ability.

:):D
 

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Barmore for sure. Really awesome to see a guy dominate the line like that.

And Zappe stepped in and made some throws. He shouldn’t be the guy heading into next season. But he put some balls exactly where he needed to last night.
 

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I keep wanting them to lose in the abstract but can’t actively root for them to fail. And yes, two Buffalo wins would be amazing
This. I know losing is probably better long-term, but these guys practice each week, work really hard, and in general I don’t think lack of effort has been the issue with this team this year. I can’t root for the guys wearing Patriots jerseys to lose.
 

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Barmore - Beast Mode throughout the game.
Zappe - A demeanor as icy as the weather
Ryland - Delivered when most needed
Honorable Mentions: Baringer (a 76 yard punt? Seriously?); Payton (thanks for poking the bear)
 

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Barmore was dominant, no doubt. Also:

Mac Wilson had some epic Wilson-on-Wilson crime
Mapu punched the ball out for the key 3rd TD
Dugger with a night of hard clean hits
 

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An honorable mention for Phroah Brown. Quite the stat from O'Malley at Masslive if true:

The Patriots don’t always throw to tight end Pharoah Brown. But when they do, it works. Quarterbacks are 11-for-11 when throwing his way this season.
 

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This. I know losing is probably better long-term, but these guys practice each week, work really hard, and in general I don’t think lack of effort has been the issue with this team this year. I can’t root for the guys wearing Patriots jerseys to lose.
Was just saying this to my partner when watching this morning. Head wants them to lose, but the visceral reaction is always pro-Pats.
 

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The wins this season are over the Jets, Bills, Steelers and Broncos. Would have been nice to pick off the Dolphins and Chiefs, but any time you beat those four teams, it's worth it
 

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Don't get me wrong, Pharaoh is one of my binkies, but I would guess that BB and BoB think he's more useful with eleven catches on eleven targets than seventeen catches on thirty targets. And BoB is most certainly coaching for his next, better gig.
Sure. But if he catches every ball thrown to him, might as well use that cheat code.
 

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And Zappe stepped in and made some throws. He shouldn’t be the guy heading into next season. But he put some balls exactly where he needed to last night.
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Seems like if they draft a guy, Zappe could be a qb to run with till the new guy is ready.
 
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Broncos burned a 1st and a 2nd for Sean Peyton.
Sean Peyton has a losing record after torching Nate Hackett for his lack of coaching ability.

:):D
I think Payton is a good example of how hard it will be for the Pats to find a good coach to replace BB. Payton might be overrated but he’s generally considered a good coach (same was said for Andy Reid pre-Mahomes). There simply aren’t a lot of good coaches out there and the large majority of coordinator to HC converts fail or take 2-3 HC positions before they get better (maybe happening with Bowles now? Carroll is another obvious example)

a lot of these young coaches who are succeeding are doing so because they have loaded offenses (Philadelphia, Miami, Zac Taylor). What Pierce has done with the Raiders, Stefanski with Cleveland or Steichen with Indy is more impressive to me than McDaniel or Sirianni simply because good coordinators who step into a roster which matches their specialty haven’t proven much in terms of being a “head” coach. And I don’t think Miami or Philly consistently has good game plans on both sides of the ball, good clock management etc.

Not suggesting Sirianni or McDaniel are bad coaches but I’d put them a lot more towards unknown than proven good head coaches.
 

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I think Payton is a good example of how hard it will be for the Pats to find a good coach to replace BB. Payton might be overrated but he’s generally considered a good coach (same was said for Andy Reid pre-Mahomes). There simply aren’t a lot of good coaches out there and the large majority of coordinator to HC converts fail or take 2-3 HC positions before they get better (maybe happening with Bowles now? Carroll is another obvious example)

a lot of these young coaches who are succeeding are doing so because they have loaded offenses (Philadelphia, Miami, Zac Taylor). What Pierce has done with the Raiders, Stefanski with Cleveland or Steichen with Indy is more impressive to me than McDaniel or Sirianni simply because good coordinators who step into a roster which matches their specialty haven’t proven much in terms of being a “head” coach. And I don’t think Miami or Philly consistently has good game plans on both sides of the ball, good clock management etc.

Not suggesting Sirianni or McDaniel are bad coaches but I’d put them a lot more towards unknown than proven good head coaches.
BB the GM is killing BB the coach, Mike!