I think the 49ers know, and they're making him third string behind Purdy and Sam Freaking Darnold.No one knows. Dude has 130 passing attempts over the past 3 years.
Man, spending 45+ million on QB while not having an established top tier starter would suck.It is so worth a shot. The Pats could even exercise the 5th year option on both him and Mac if they wanted to and their QB cap hit wouldn't be unreasonable. And if Mac stinks this year, you just exercise it on Lance if you like him and give him a chance next year.
That's a 1-time pro-bowl mediocrity, thank you very much!! /sMan for all of the hype of that draft class... Lawrence looks like he has star potential, but I think we're looking at 3 total busts and 1 mediocrity.
Agreed, and I’d generally trust them given their ability to create offense. If this were a top 3 pick DB, I’d give it a flyer because BB can make chicken salad out of chicken shit there, but at QB, I’d trust the Niners that maybe there’s no there there.I think the 49ers know, and they're making him third string behind Purdy and Sam Freaking Darnold.
but they are first rounders!!!Man, spending 45+ million on QB while not having an established top tier starter would suck.
Not sure I’d put Fields in the bust column just yet. Very dangerous runner who may still have upside to his passing game. Flashed enough last year that I don’t think the Bears are giving up on him.Man for all of the hype of that draft class... Lawrence looks like he has star potential, but I think we're looking at 3 total busts and 1 mediocrity.
Word. We won't really know if Fields is a bust until he gets to play in a place that has an actual offensive system. Chicago was just about the worst place he could end up.Not sure I’d put Fields in the bust column just yet. Very dangerous runner who may still have upside to his passing game. Flashed enough last year that I don’t think the Bears are giving up on him.
Mike Reiss was on T&R yesterday, and when they asked him who might be a surprise cut the first person he mentioned was Guy.Volin (I know) had this to day today about Guy:
That kind of tracks for me - seems reasonable that this is the equivalent of the old preseason week 4 game, not the 3rd game dress rehearsal.There's talk (Reiss) that Mac may not play tomorrow night. No sense getting him hit behind patchwork OL.
Yeah, but in that example these guys played a lot in game 3.That kind of tracks for me - seems reasonable that this is the equivalent of the old preseason week 4 game, not the 3rd game dress rehearsal.
Man I don’t know. Limited weapons sure but it’s not like he has Patricia out there-Fields has been limited in the passing game with two different real offensive coordinators. Perhaps that’s a reflection in what they see in Fields and how little they trust him rather than a sign of how limited their systems are.Word. We won't really know if Fields is a bust until he gets to play in a place that has an actual offensive system. Chicago was just about the worst place he could end up.
We know about Lance. If he can't make QB2 in San Francisco, there is no hope. Those guys know how to scheme.
I'm just saying. Who was the last great Bears quarterback? The last great Bears offense was probably 1986, and that was with an all-world running back. Team has been loading up on defense and kick returners since before color TV was invented.Man I don’t know. Limited weapons sure but it’s not like he has Patricia out there-Fields has been limited in the passing game with two different real offensive coordinators. Perhaps that’s a reflection in what they see in Fields and how little they trust him rather than a sign of how limited their systems are.
Wasn’t the Bill Walsh rule you basically can tell at about 35 starts? Which I’m not saying is right in every case but it means that Fields and Jones better show something this season.I'm just saying. Who was the last great Bears quarterback? The last great Bears offense was probably 1986, and that was with an all-world running back. Team has been loading up on defense and kick returners since before color TV was invented.
My main point is that we know that Lance is bad, because San Fran couldn't find a use for him. Fields might be bad too, but I just don't think that "sucks in Bears offense" is conclusive.
Outside of Kmet, who is at best a rich mans Henry, can you even name a CHI WR from last season? Mooney went down early, Claypool was kind of there but mostly hurt. N'Keal Harry was starting for CHI at one point. The NE weapons we bemoan would have all started in CHI save for Kmet over the dredge CHI had.Wasn’t the Bill Walsh rule you basically can tell at about 35 starts? Which I’m not saying is right in every case but it means that Fields and Jones better show something this season.
At which point did we all collectively decide Bill Belichick is a glorified DC who offers zero help on the offensive side of the ball? The Chicago coaching staff as a whole is vastly inferior to New England's.Man I don’t know. Limited weapons sure but it’s not like he has Patricia out there-Fields has been limited in the passing game with two different real offensive coordinators. Perhaps that’s a reflection in what they see in Fields and how little they trust him rather than a sign of how limited their systems are.
According to Google maps, somewhere between McDaniels Drive and the corner of Judge & Patricia.At which point did we all collectively decide Bill Belichick is a glorified DC who offers zero help on the offensive side of the ball?
Bill playing chess, etc.Not sure where else to post this but I’m at the Springsteen concert tonight and there is a huge echo off the new video board. Thinking it could have a major impact on crowd noise this year. It might be MUCH louder.
This is a generations old problem. I mean, seriously, Sid Luckman is probably the greatest QB in that franchise’s history. The other options being Jay Cutler and Jim McMahon. It’s just a decades long horror show. I lit a candle for poor Justin the minute the Bears drafted him.Word. We won't really know if Fields is a bust until he gets to play in a place that has an actual offensive system. Chicago was just about the worst place he could end up.
0 Bears have throw for 4000 yards in a season. Literally 0.This is a generations old problem. I mean, seriously, Sid Luckman is probably the greatest QB in that franchise’s history. The other options being Jay Cutler and Jim McMahon. It’s just a decades long horror show. I lit a candle for poor Justin the minute the Bears drafted him.
I am so used to New England cynicism that when I read the original post, I thought he was referring to Mac as the third bust and not Fields.Word. We won't really know if Fields is a bust until he gets to play in a place that has an actual offensive system. Chicago was just about the worst place he could end up.
We know about Lance. If he can't make QB2 in San Francisco, there is no hope. Those guys know how to scheme.
It is absolutely hilarious. Their single-season passer rating for a full season is by...Mitch Trubisky at 95.4 in 2018. Not only have they not had a 4000 yard passer, they haven't had a single season with 30 passing TDs.0 Bears have throw for 4000 yards in a season. Literally 0.
It's a truly incredible statistic.
Their best ever single season QB performance may have been Erik Kramer back in like 1994 or whatever.It is absolutely hilarious. Their single-season passer rating for a full season is by...Mitch Trubisky at 95.4 in 2018. Not only have they not had a 4000 yard passer, they haven't had a single season with 30 passing TDs.
1995 yeah. Pretty solid that year: 60.3%, 3,838 yds, 29 td, 10 int, 93.5 ratingTheir best ever single season QB performance may have been Erik Kramer back in like 1994 or whatever.
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This made me look up how many 1000 yard WR seasons they've had. 18. Kind of funny but there have actually been teams with fewer, such as the Browns, Ravens, and Texans. Obviously, the latter 2 aren't nearly as old. Speaking of the Ravens, their WR single season yardage record is 1,201 by Michael Jackson in 1996.Their best ever single season QB performance may have been Erik Kramer back in like 1994 or whatever.
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This is a franchise that went a whole season ('72) with a starting QB who had a 38% completion rate (but ran for 950 yds at 7 yds per carry). Must be something in the Halas DNA.1995 yeah. Pretty solid that year: 60.3%, 3,838 yds, 29 td, 10 int, 93.5 rating
That's amazing that that's probably the best passing season in franchise history. You'd think by dumb luck they'd have something much better at least once.
You don't even need an elite guy. Steve Burlein, Brad Johnson, Jake Plummer, Jay Schroeder, Scott Mitchell, Alex Smith, Jered Goff, Andy Dalton, Kerry Collins, and Marc Bulger have all throw for 4000 yard seasons. Worth mentioning that Matt Schaub has 3 season of 4k yards. Jon Kitna has 2.That level of multi-generational futility at the position is almost impossible to achieve by accident. You’d think they’d have walked into one elite, long term starter by now. They’ve always kind of been my team B. The parade of mediocrity at the position through the years is astounding. So many guys they thought were the answer, and completely flamed out. Peter Tom Willis, anyone?
Will be interested to see how much run they give Malik tonight. It doesn’t necessarily mean anything, Tim Tebow was cut after playing a ton in the last preseason game in 2013. But if nothing else, it would be good to see him, get a few more reps to see what they have.Mac not playing tonight.
View: https://twitter.com/kguregian/status/1695151591567794269
Or maybe not play him much at QB so the rest of the league doesn't know what we have so we can sneak him on the taxi squad.Will be interested to see how much run they give Malik tonight. It doesn’t necessarily mean anything, Tim Tebow was cut after playing a ton in the last preseason game in 2013. But if nothing else, it would be good to see him, get a few more reps to see what they have.
That level of multi-generational futility at the position is almost impossible to achieve by accident. You’d think they’d have walked into one elite, long term starter by now. They’ve always kind of been my team B. The parade of mediocrity at the position through the years is astounding. So many guys they thought were the answer, and completely flamed out. Peter Tom Willis, anyone?
View: https://twitter.com/realalexbarth/status/1695277228706177086?s=46Bailey Zappe asked about coming back in the game after halftime: "That was the head man's decision. I just do what I'm told."
Made it sound like the decision was made in the moment.
Is it the whole team, or just the OL? It seems like the defensive units are quite solid for both now and future seasons. The OL they've run out this preseason is so crazy bad in pass protection though, it's impossible to judge the quality of QB/receiver play. They do seem to do ok in the run game, but giving up a sack on virtually every series is going to kill any chance to win games.Yeah, it's easy to overreact to the craptastic performance in pre-season, but the fact is...this team's depth (even with the caveat that most of these guys don't constitute their "depth") is REALLY troubling. Just not a good roster. Going to need to continue to rebuild.
The Eagles game might get ugly. That might be the best DL in the league and this OL situation is…troubling.Is it the whole team, or just the OL? It seems like the defensive units are quite solid for both now and future seasons. The OL they've run out this preseason is so crazy bad in pass protection though, it's impossible to judge the quality of QB/receiver play. They do seem to do ok in the run game, but giving up a sack on virtually every series is going to kill any chance to win games.
And with as many failed drives, we know for sure that Barringer is a keeper at punter.
The projected starters largely haven’t played at all and have yet to play together.I thought the OL was supposed to be fine with Patricia gone. So, what gives?