Got it. So you rooted for the White Sox instead?I've lived in Chicago for 35 years, and I hate Cubs fans.
Got it. So you rooted for the White Sox instead?I've lived in Chicago for 35 years, and I hate Cubs fans.
Ah, thanks!There is conflicting info on that. From the globe.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/29/sports/seemingly-rest-baseball-deals-red-sox-players-eagerly-await-reinforcements/
Burning a top prospect like Duran’s service time and development for a pinch runner/bench role seems like something they wouldn’t do. I guess they could send him down again but it doesn’t exactly increase his value going into the offseason, nor give us a better idea whether he’s a starting outfielder in 2022.Verdugo in center, Renfroe in right and Duran as defensive replacement, sometime platoon with Renfroe, and pinch runner.
Cot's shows us still under $210M if we add $3.3M for Schwarber MLB Boston 21 - Google SheetsSo we’re over the threshold. Sox payroll site has us at $213.88M after the trade. Now let’s go more over.
Because he has always been a platoon player. Career WRC+ of 87 vs righties, 90 this year. Career 135 vs lefties, 130 this year. He went on a hot streak but has never really hit righties.Why are we all of a sudden reducing Renfroe to a platoon player?
How does Cashman do it?
Gave away two better prospects and got a worse player.How does Cashman do it?
Dwight Evans tried to play 1b, but then retreated to RF.I used to think you could throw just about anyone at 1B, in which case I wouldn't be too concerned about Schwarber trying it on the fly.
Then I saw Arroyo do a split and apparently rip his groin in half.
How does Cashman do it?
Yah that. He had the team eat the money in return for better prospects.Gave away two better prospects and got a worse player.
Didn't he go back to RF because they picked up his other cousin, Darrell?Dwight Evans tried to play 1b, but then retreated to RF.
That rhymes or is that just me.I don’t think he platoons - not if he’s even close to what he was doing in June.
There's going to be a lot of shuffling positions to get Schwarber in the lineup. He gives Renfroe some days off against righties. Gets Kike some starts at 2B. Gives JDM and Verdugo some rest days. Now Duran isn't forced to play if he's struggling down the stretch.Not loving the idea of a guy who never played 1B to come back after an injury like his and expect him to handle it. This can't be the plan... Either it's a bad one... or there's something else coming up.
The best configuration for the team is keeping Kiké in CF, Renfroe in right, Verdugo in LF. Arroyo at 2B. I'm not sure how Schwarber actually fits.....
With Arroyo on the DL still (with the same injury as Schwarber... stretching at 1B...ugh...) then he can sort of slot in to LF.
The entire configuration of the defense is puzzling right now unless they're moving on from Duran already too..... but that's pretty reactionary. I don't know if he should go back to AAA and beat the snot out of lesser pitchers or continue to see actual quality competition.... but the entire team seems like a square trying to go through a circular hole.
I'm also thinking there has to be another attempt to bring in a first baseman. If Schwarber is plan A it means Dalbec could be your first baseman for a couple more weeks until KS finishes his IL stint and gets a rehab assignment to learn the position. He's a left handed power bat that Cora can find ABs for via a rotation of OFs and the DH slot. Sending Duran down shouldn't be a sign of moving on from him. It's only going to be for a couple of weeks and he'll be back in Sept.Not loving the idea of a guy who never played 1B to come back after an injury like his and expect him to handle it. This can't be the plan... Either it's a bad one... or there's something else coming up.
The best configuration for the team is keeping Kiké in CF, Renfroe in right, Verdugo in LF. Arroyo at 2B. I'm not sure how Schwarber actually fits.....
With Arroyo on the DL still (with the same injury as Schwarber... stretching at 1B...ugh...) then he can sort of slot in to LF.
The entire configuration of the defense is puzzling right now unless they're moving on from Duran already too..... but that's pretty reactionary. I don't know if he should go back to AAA and beat the snot out of lesser pitchers or continue to see actual quality competition.... but the entire team seems like a square trying to go through a circular hole.
It's streaky, bullshit, all-or-nothing OPS. He has 80 career doubles to go along with his 146 career HR's. That should speak volumes ...Unimpressed with a 150 OPS+?
Explain to me, in detail, what “streaky, bullshit, all or nothing” OPS is. And then explain why I should be concerned that he’s hit 146 homers over his career.It's streaky, bullshit, all-or-nothing OPS. He has 80 career doubles to go along with his 146 career HR's. That should speak volumes ...
Speak volumes of what? This comment makes no sense whatsoever. Explain please.It's streaky, bullshit, all-or-nothing OPS. He has 80 career doubles to go along with his 146 career HR's. That should speak volumes ...
Must have some speed though. Quite a few infield hits.Those spray charts would be so much better if they showed where outs landed, like in the old days.
I’m sure some of the bigger stats folks here can attest, but has there ever been any research done on if streaky hitters create excess (or less than optimal) value? Because although KS might hit 12 homers in 10 games and 12 the rest of the season, hell, he might have just won you 10 games…It's streaky, bullshit, all-or-nothing OPS. He has 80 career doubles to go along with his 146 career HR's. That should speak volumes ...
There has, and it's been posted on here over the years. It suggested streaky hitters created excess value. No clue where to find the articles though.I’m sure some of the bigger stats folks here can attest, but has there ever been any research done on if streaky hitters create excess (or less than optimal) value? Because although KS might hit 12 homers in 10 games and 12 the rest of the season, hell, he might have just won you 10 games…
I doubt they moved Aldo for an insurance policy. Why do people have such a hard time believing he will play 1b? This happens anytime a player is rumored to switch positions. "No way that happens." Then it happens. The board was having this debate with Franchy not that long ago.He'll only be playing around a couple weeks before rosters expand to 28 9/1.
This strikes me as JD insurance more than anything. Now that waiver wire trades can't happen after today, if JD goes down for any amount of time after Schwarber returns, Cora can still have Schwarber's thump in the lineup at DH. It also allows Cora to pinch run for JD and replace him with Schwarber in the lineup.
It doesn't hurt to take a look at how Schwarber would be at 1B before he returns, but I wouldn't be optimistic about it.
Also, how many more people will post the, "It's incredibly hard" Moneyball scene without bothering to see it's been posted in this thread many times?
This.There's going to be a lot of shuffling positions to get Schwarber in the lineup. He gives Renfroe some days off against righties. Gets Kike some starts at 2B. Gives JDM and Verdugo some rest days. Now Duran isn't forced to play if he's struggling down the stretch.
He's obviously a huge upgrade over the Marwin and Santana types whom were getting regular ABs.
Searching the thread appears to be incredibly hard too.Also, how many more people will post the, "It's incredibly hard" Moneyball scene without bothering to see it's been posted in this thread many times?
Well they literally just tried that with Arroyo and it backfired mightily. Guessing that’s why it seems unlikely.I doubt they moved Aldo for an insurance policy. Why do people have such a hard time believing he will play 1b? This happens anytime a player is rumored to switch positions. "No way that happens." Then it happens. The board was having this debate with Franchy not that long ago.
It's not like this is a rare thing.
They shouldn't let one unlucky event stop them from trying guys at other positions if it might be beneficial to do so.Well they literally just tried that with Arroyo and it backfired mightily. Guessing that’s why it seems unlikely.
He’s already taken grounders at first in Washington this year when Josh Bell got hurt.I’d be stunned if the Red Sox don’t acquire a left handed first baseman today.
I think Schwarber is more of a balance for Hernandez, Renfroe, and JDM than anything else. Between DH, OF, and 2B, I believe you will see a more situational lineup than what we are currently seeing.
He’s never played first, is on the IL with a hamstring injury, and isn’t a good fielder in general.
I’d be shocked if he took one grounder at first.
With Bogaerts and Devers, you need a quality first basemen.They shouldn't let one unlucky event stop them from trying guys at other positions if it might be beneficial to do so.
You think Bobby Dalbec is a quality 1b?With Bogaerts and Devers, you need a quality first basemen.
Agree and I don’t see a way Schwarber and Duran both play together. To me this is a sign Duran isn’t going to be a contributor down the stretch.I’d be stunned if the Red Sox don’t acquire a left handed first baseman today.
I think Schwarber is more of a balance for Hernandez, Renfroe, and JDM than anything else. Between DH, OF, and 2B, I believe you will see a more situational lineup than what we are currently seeing.
He’s never played first, is on the IL with a hamstring injury, and isn’t a good fielder in general.
I’d be shocked if he took one grounder at first.
There's always the Dave Roberts role.Agree and I don’t see a way Schwarber and Duran both play together. To me this is a sign Duran isn’t going to be a contributor down the stretch.
This is the only thing that makes sense to me. I woke up to this news and I hate it, unless it is part of some miraculous plan in Bloom's head that I am unable to guess at.My point exactly. He’ll be a Red Sox in uniform for about a month or two. He’ll DH probably and JD will be in LF a lot more.
I meant in a game. Listen maybe that’s the plan, but I think this allows them to trade Duran, have more OF/DH flexibility and bolsters the lineup against RHP.He’s already taken grounders at first in Washington this year when Josh Bell got hurt.
Yep after September 1st. He’s really overmatched with high fastballs.There's always the Dave Roberts role.
So one injury means that no one should ever change positions or try new ones ever again? Every single player they've used at 1B this year had more game experience at another position than they did at 1B coming into the season. Arroyo was the only one who'd never done it before at any level, and got a bit overzealous. I don't think that's a reason to not keep experimenting with other players. Especially since if they want to try Schwarber at first, they can give him a few days in Worcester to give it a go before attempting it in a game that matters (like they did with Franchy who hasn't been great but also hasn't hurt himself).Well they literally just tried that with Arroyo and it backfired mightily. Guessing that’s why it seems unlikely.