Red Sox Hot Stove Rumors
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It's hard not to speculate when a good rumor is dropped on the board. I've tried hard keep Miller to the Miller board and Lester to the Lester board and discussion about 3B on it's board. However, sometimes speculation will spread where rumors are dropped. It's difficult to speak of a rumor without speculating on other aspects of the team's needs and it's current situation.
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
The Chicago #WhiteSox just signed 1B Adam LaRoche to a 2 year, $25 million contract.
LH Bat off the market. That ends the trade Napoli and sign LaRoche to play 1B.. the need to land a LHH 3B is even greater now.
The Chicago #WhiteSox just signed 1B Adam LaRoche to a 2 year, $25 million contract.
LH Bat off the market. That ends the trade Napoli and sign LaRoche to play 1B.. the need to land a LHH 3B is even greater now.
Wasn't there an Island of Misfit Toys Trade Thread one offseason? Perhaps that would work again.
I actually like reading hypothetical trade ideas and the responses. I don't like reading them in what (I assume) should be news oriented threads.
I never like reading debates over what warrants posting where. And that includes this post I'm making now.
I actually like reading hypothetical trade ideas and the responses. I don't like reading them in what (I assume) should be news oriented threads.
I never like reading debates over what warrants posting where. And that includes this post I'm making now.
So Castillo is a back-up? not happening, all the pieces have to fit fairly well otherwise the ideas are not worth sharing. They just signed him to a deal for 6 more years at $72.4 million still to go. I think the surest thing in our outfield next season is that he's our starting CF or RF. Betts is the next surest thing to start in the OF, after that all bets are off. If Cespedes is not traded, which is a distinct possibility/probability, he will be out there too.lxt said:
Because much the same way Theo Epstein ruined a good thing trading Kelly and Rizzo to not extent Beltre, give Gonzalez way more money, and move an already aging Youk to 3B people on SoSH have their binkies. Justin Upton and Jason Heyward are two of them. The fact that they're both available and the Red Sox aren't likely to make a play for either just breaks people's hearts.PrometheusWakefield said:
Never mind that they will both likely be free agents next season, or that the club has some good internal options to explore before backing up the Brinks truck to any corner OF. That isn't important when SoSH's paramour Jason Heyward got traded for perpetually under-performing Shelby Miller and the Sox didn't even kick the tires.
The OF is crowded now, but next year they just have Betts, Castillo, JBJ, Nava and Craig. JBJ may never hit, Craig could move to first with Napoli gone and Nava is a platoon / bench guy anyway.
If you think Upton is an answer for LF post 2015, it may make sense to acquire him and extend him while you are the sole negotiator. Then you don't have to worry about someone else doing that nor do you have to outbid people in free agency. You'd have to clear the logjam this year but that shouldn't be too difficult, really. Cespedes and Nava get dealt, JBJ goes to the minors to see if he remembers how to hit, Victorino goes to the DL (only half kidding), and Craig can be a backup dh / 1b / lf and get decent enough playing time.
I don't think I'd go this route but it's not really that crazy if you don't think Cespedes, Craig or JBJ are going to be helpful long-term or you'd prefer a surer thing in Upton and you think someone will snatch him up and never let go. Maybe Craig and JBJ are "good internal options" post 2015 but there's a good amount of risk there.
If you think Upton is an answer for LF post 2015, it may make sense to acquire him and extend him while you are the sole negotiator. Then you don't have to worry about someone else doing that nor do you have to outbid people in free agency. You'd have to clear the logjam this year but that shouldn't be too difficult, really. Cespedes and Nava get dealt, JBJ goes to the minors to see if he remembers how to hit, Victorino goes to the DL (only half kidding), and Craig can be a backup dh / 1b / lf and get decent enough playing time.
I don't think I'd go this route but it's not really that crazy if you don't think Cespedes, Craig or JBJ are going to be helpful long-term or you'd prefer a surer thing in Upton and you think someone will snatch him up and never let go. Maybe Craig and JBJ are "good internal options" post 2015 but there's a good amount of risk there.
Looks like a serious effort to get Panda
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/11/pablo-sandoval-rumors-friday.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/11/pablo-sandoval-rumors-friday.html
Agree but posted it none the less to keep this board on track and with all the info.Darnell's Son said:
If it has a thread started for it, why does it need to be posted again in a catch all thread? People have to go through the directory with the thread title describing this to get into this thread and then see the information. It's redundant and only serves to fragment conversations. We should be trying to focus them.
For the reason stated ... the conversations are fragment all over the board. To have one coherent thought you need to post to five to seven active boards.Snodgrass'Muff said:
lxt said:
Posting the same information in multiple threads does not focus discussion. You are making it harder to discuss these things, not easier. I cannot explain it any more simply than that. If you still don't get it, I'd recommend contacting a mod and asking for some advice on how to post here.
Also, these are called "threads" not "boards."
Now if we can just sign Jon Lester and have a joint press conference for Hanley and Lester with Rick Pitino as the MC...
I vote for stuffed crust to commerate the hatchet burying.Papi needs his commission for delivering the prodigal son back home.Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt said:
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Based on the conversations the Red Sox have had so far, evaluators believe they are going to get a good pitcher for Yoenis Cespedes.
Based on the conversations the Red Sox have had so far, evaluators believe they are going to get a good pitcher for Yoenis Cespedes.
Considering the lack of power around the league and the fact he was just traded for Lester a few months ago makes this tweet the reach of the year.mloyko54 said:
The holes: #1 SP, #2 SP, LHR, backup C
The surplus/resources: OF (Craig/Victorino/Cespedes/Castillo/Nava/Ramirez/Betts), money (still well under the luxury tax, but they even said they'd go over it), prospects
How to fill the holes:
1. Sign Lester. 6/150 if you need to. He's a bona-fide #1, has proven it in Boston. No reason not to do what it takes to get him.
2. Trade excess OF - probably Cespedes - to acquire a #2 SP. There are tons of #2 SP to potentially go after.
3. Sign a veteran backup C.
4. Sign Miller *or* use young starting pitching prospects to fill the bullpen.
The surplus/resources: OF (Craig/Victorino/Cespedes/Castillo/Nava/Ramirez/Betts), money (still well under the luxury tax, but they even said they'd go over it), prospects
How to fill the holes:
1. Sign Lester. 6/150 if you need to. He's a bona-fide #1, has proven it in Boston. No reason not to do what it takes to get him.
2. Trade excess OF - probably Cespedes - to acquire a #2 SP. There are tons of #2 SP to potentially go after.
3. Sign a veteran backup C.
4. Sign Miller *or* use young starting pitching prospects to fill the bullpen.
The Sox were rumored to be interested in Bryce Harper earlier this offseason http://www.inquisitr.com/1558097/boston-red-sox-rumors-bryce-harper/
If any team had the chips to pull off something involving him and Zimmerman/Fister, it's this team. Would you include Betts and Owens along with Cespedes? No hit (even improvement to the Nats offense given Harper's relative mediocrity last year) and they get a cheaper rotation.
The Sox still need that left handedness in the lineup along with someone who can actually play RF. I can't believe they'd have a lineup with only two lefties.
If any team had the chips to pull off something involving him and Zimmerman/Fister, it's this team. Would you include Betts and Owens along with Cespedes? No hit (even improvement to the Nats offense given Harper's relative mediocrity last year) and they get a cheaper rotation.
The Sox still need that left handedness in the lineup along with someone who can actually play RF. I can't believe they'd have a lineup with only two lefties.
Weren't there stories that Harper was a clubhouse problem?grimshaw said:
Anyway, that sounds like a highly unlikely scenario. In what universe does 1 year of Cespedes, equate to Harper, problems and all? And Betts, as much as I love him, to balance the scales on Harper, plus bring Zimmerman?
In a cocaine heartbeat if we can lock up Zimm. <br />
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People are a little sour on Harper due to his Ruthian expectations; he's still very young, and I'd love watching his prime years go down at Fenway.
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People are a little sour on Harper due to his Ruthian expectations; he's still very young, and I'd love watching his prime years go down at Fenway.
I cant see a scenario where the nats trade one of the most fan favorite players. Betts/Owens/Cespedes is a huge price to pay for. Though I dont see it being realistic. Besides I read somewhere we need a few pitchers.
I'm not sure Harper is a fan favorite but could be wrong. He and Matt Williams have clashed and he was benched last year. He also hasn't yet produced like a superstar. I'm not saying it's likely to happen, but who else could the Sox move for Betts who could be pried away?
Thought of a different way: What if Bogaerts produced below superstar levels and clashed with John Farrell? Wouldn't we want him moved by then to see what we could get? He's only through year one and there were several people around here who were down on his production already.
One other point - The Nationals would still have Strasburg, Fister, Gio Gonzalez and Tanner Roarke who was really good last year. If Owens was their 5 for 2/3rd of the year they could bring him along slowly.
Thought of a different way: What if Bogaerts produced below superstar levels and clashed with John Farrell? Wouldn't we want him moved by then to see what we could get? He's only through year one and there were several people around here who were down on his production already.
One other point - The Nationals would still have Strasburg, Fister, Gio Gonzalez and Tanner Roarke who was really good last year. If Owens was their 5 for 2/3rd of the year they could bring him along slowly.
There has never been any indication Harper is available, an unsourced fan speculation article aside.
It's pretty close. Let's trade two relatively unproven players and a slugger with a sub .300 OBP for a guy many people still think is a generational talent and a bonafide ace. The Nats would be crazy to pass that up!ivanvamp said:
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