I made the following post in the Peavey thread, responding to the idea of the Sox trading Peavey to the Yanks. The post mentioned the Mike Stanley trade as the most recent Sox-Yanks trade, which got me thinking about Stanley and his reception in both cities. He seemed to be a rare player who was appreciated by both fan bases and not vilified.
I thought I'd start a new thread, because I'm curious about fan perception of Sox-Yanks trades and fan perception of players who played for both teams. I only really have a grasp on late 80s reactions forward - in terms of how the papers, talk radio, and the internet dealt with trades and players "crossing the line" via free agency:
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While 2004 eased the sting, in terms of trades, there would be nothing more alienating to the fan base than to enable a Yanks WS. It won't matter how innocent or minimal the trade seemed at the time. As we see from certain posters on the board, the idea of the Yanks signing our FAs (or even possibly signing our future FAs induces mouth foam.
Not that they match up as trading partners, but it's hard to imagine the same reaction for a potential Baltimore or Toronto trade, even if that team went on to the WS.
BTW - Stanley didn't even really count - he came to prominence in TX, signed with NYY for 4 years before signing with Boston as a FA. Boston traded him after two good seasons back to NY - crucially the Yanks finished second that year and didn't make the playoffs. He then goes to TOR as a FA, then resigns with the Sox as a FA for two solid seasons before he's released. So he had two tours with NY and the Sox, but I don't think he was ever regarded as a "Yankee at heart" or anything like that.
Were there other players like Stanley who bridged the NYY/Sox rivalry? Meaning that they a) relatively effective for both teams, yet b) weren't scorned by one side or another for the switch? Here's the total list: http://www.baseball-...it=Find Players
Discounting the cup of coffee/end of their career/embedded Yankee/Sox injury guys:
Tiant was a bit before my time, but he seems to be remembered fondly in both cities.
Ricky Henderson was a bit player on the Sox but I always think of him as an Athletic.
The clear "villains" who intensified the rivalry, would be Clemens, Boggs, and to some extent Damon.
I don't know how Aceves fits into this - equally loved and hated for a bit by both sides? Or what about former prospects like Pavano?
I thought I'd start a new thread, because I'm curious about fan perception of Sox-Yanks trades and fan perception of players who played for both teams. I only really have a grasp on late 80s reactions forward - in terms of how the papers, talk radio, and the internet dealt with trades and players "crossing the line" via free agency:
Old Post:
While 2004 eased the sting, in terms of trades, there would be nothing more alienating to the fan base than to enable a Yanks WS. It won't matter how innocent or minimal the trade seemed at the time. As we see from certain posters on the board, the idea of the Yanks signing our FAs (or even possibly signing our future FAs induces mouth foam.
Not that they match up as trading partners, but it's hard to imagine the same reaction for a potential Baltimore or Toronto trade, even if that team went on to the WS.
BTW - Stanley didn't even really count - he came to prominence in TX, signed with NYY for 4 years before signing with Boston as a FA. Boston traded him after two good seasons back to NY - crucially the Yanks finished second that year and didn't make the playoffs. He then goes to TOR as a FA, then resigns with the Sox as a FA for two solid seasons before he's released. So he had two tours with NY and the Sox, but I don't think he was ever regarded as a "Yankee at heart" or anything like that.
Were there other players like Stanley who bridged the NYY/Sox rivalry? Meaning that they a) relatively effective for both teams, yet b) weren't scorned by one side or another for the switch? Here's the total list: http://www.baseball-...it=Find Players
Discounting the cup of coffee/end of their career/embedded Yankee/Sox injury guys:
Tiant was a bit before my time, but he seems to be remembered fondly in both cities.
Ricky Henderson was a bit player on the Sox but I always think of him as an Athletic.
The clear "villains" who intensified the rivalry, would be Clemens, Boggs, and to some extent Damon.
I don't know how Aceves fits into this - equally loved and hated for a bit by both sides? Or what about former prospects like Pavano?