There’s a uniform player contract, and there are guidelines about what kinds of custom provisions can and can’t be included. I don’t know if making the contract voidable in case of a PED suspension would be allowable. Even if it would be, if every club suddenly started insisting on it, that would be the easiest collusion case to prove in the history of ever.The union doesn't have to agree to anything. Contracts are custom for every player. The players either sign a contract or they don't. Sure, they could strike and refuse. But the fact that these contracts are invincible blows my mind.
Hard to see how the Pads would’ve included Abrams if they knew this was coming.The calculus of the Soto trade probably changes if the Padres knew about this. Just a disaster all the way around.
Yeah, I read it the same way. The dermatologist should go back on his vacation.Am I reading this tweet wrong? Is he saying that he frequently prescribes the medication that he then goes on to say makes the condition "far worse"?
I’d guess the answer is that they prescribe it often but not for ringworm.Am I reading this tweet wrong? Is he saying that he frequently prescribes the medication that he then goes on to say makes the condition "far worse"?
FWIW--Rany Jazayerli is more than a dermatologist. (Although that might be his only relevant characteristic here.) He was at the forefront of the post-Bill James, internet-fueled, analytical looks at baseball by otherwise smart people who were pretty good writers but not "sportswriters" steeped in ink, smoke and booze. . He was close with Rob Neyer when Neyer was almost literally the only guy with a somewhat mainstream platform (espn.com -- mid90s) getting beyond BA and RBI. Jazayerli was a frequent collaborator.A dermatologist Royals fan says ringworm can be treated with "CLOBETASOL", which is different from "CLOSTEBOL". You can conjure up a conspiracy theory with an inept PR team from there.
View: https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/1558309744208740352
Thanks, I figured there was a standard agreement/template but not that it was typically not changed.There’s a uniform player contract, and there are guidelines about what kinds of custom provisions can and can’t be included. I don’t know if making the contract voidable in case of a PED suspension would be allowable. Even if it would be, if every club suddenly started insisting on it, that would be the easiest collusion case to prove in the history of ever.
This is a quality post. I swear, there's an expert for everything on SoSH.Pharmacy tech here, but I still had to do some digging.
Clostebol IS used to treat minor wounds, usually combined with neomycin. So if he used it after the crash, that much tracks. Why he'd say ringworm is beyond me, but maybe it's because he didn't realize the difference between the drugs he used (if he had ringworm, he probably used clobetasol).
And before anyone says, "Yeah, but his PR team should know the difference," you may be right, but I have a counterargument based in 20+ years of experience in the field:
The smartest people become really, really, really stupid when having to pronounce and spell medication names that aren't ubiquitous, and even then it's 50/50. I'm sure part of it is because the names are often alphabet soup with roots in Latin (because we've steadfastly refused, as a planet, to update the root language of all our medical names, despite the root language being long dead and not taught anymore), the emphasis is often in a weird place*, and the ongoing war in a lot of people's minds over what is the lesser offense: sounding like you can't read or sounding like you can't pronounce what you read.
It's UNLIKELY that the PR team would make such a simple mistake, but not to the point where the chances of it being an error are not infinitessimally small.
As anyone in the pharmacy field will tell you, there are a LOT of drugs with similar names. In addition to clobetasol/clostebol, there's clobazam and clonazepam, prednisone and prednisolone, glipizide and glyburide, guaifenesin and guanfacine, and so many more. It's so easy to mix them up that there are strategies, like the Tallman lettering (in such some letters in the first part of a drug's name are capitalized to highlight the differences) system, that facilities use to help avoid drug errors. And that's for the pros!
And because so many people find these words to be tongue-twisters (I've heard "atenolol" said as "atinol," metoprolol as "metropol," atorvastatin as "avastatin," and so many more - I've even heard clonazepam pronounced as "clozepam," which explains why clobazam is sometimes used erroneously), they often rely on the pharmacy and medical staff to say the correct pronunciation and just agree if it sounds right.
There are nurses who can't say the names right, and there are even doctors who struggle with them. A PR firm, going off FTJ's memory and medical records from another country, is just as likely to miss that little difference, especially if he did use both drugs at one point.
Now, this isn't all to say that he's a victim of circumstance or wasn't knowingly doping, but his statement did call specific attention to a test taken in March that he apparently did not fail, which is interesting. We know Ortiz was tested multiple times a year when he was playing, so it tracks that Tatis was tested more than once. If he'd failed the test in March, I can't see the appeal going this long and I definitely do not see MLB saying, "Ah, we won't count that one," if he did fail, so that could add some credibility to his story.
The only problem with that story is that he's likely long stopped taking the wound topical, especially if it was only for minor cuts and scrapes (larger, open wounds usually need something like Santyl, a collagenase ointment specifically used for that purpose and lacking in clostebol). So if he still has clostebol in his system, it's probably not from the wound stuff, UNLESS he still has the wound stuff and is using it on every little thing out of paranoia.
Most likely verdict is he did take something he shouldn't have, though as to whether he knew it had a banned substance in it will be up for debate for as long as he keeps the story to himself.
*I take a medication commonly called Keppra, but really called levetiracetam. To someone trying to sound that out, it might read as "lev-eh-tirr-aa-sih-tam," but it's actually pronounced "lev-ih-teer-uh-see-tum." Very few might guess that on the first or even second try.
Yikes. Next thing you’ll tell me, giving 23 year olds half a billion dollars guaranteed can lead to unintended risks!
Well you can subtract a quarter of his 2022 salary and a quarter of his 2023 salary from that.So since signing his record-breaking 14-year contract, he's had:
13 years and 335 million left.
- Repeated left shoulder subluxations, which he refuses to get surgery to fix and limits him to the outfield.
- Multiple motorcycle accidents in the same offseason, one of which resulted in a broken wrist that caused him to miss 4 months of baseball.
- an 80-game PED suspension.
- MLB Trade Rumors blurb https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/08/fernando-tatis-jr-suspended-80-games-for-performance-enhancing-drug-violation.htmlThat deal is backloaded. Tatis’ forfeited salary during the suspension, while substantial, isn’t nearly as significant as it would have been had he tested positive a couple years from now. He’ll lose the remainder of this year’s $5MM salary (approximately $1.5MM) as well as around a month’s worth of next year’s $7MM salary. The extent of his salary forfeiture is dependent on how many games he loses next season, which is subject to how far into the playoffs the Friars get this year. He’s likely to miss around 20% of the schedule, which would translate to around $1.3MM in lost salary next year.
Seems legit.Pasting this in the longer thread on the matter...
View: https://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1559272521479897088?s=21&t=h6ZKyBSwI9JBB8ptPS7FhQ
Assume ringworm is the fungus. Either way it’s bullshit.Wait, Tatis got fungus and ringworm from the same barber?
And just which hairs were cut?He got a fungus from a haircut was not on my bingo card
Ringworm of the body is related to athlete's foot (tinea pedis), jock itch (tinea cruris) and ringworm of the scalp (tinea capitis). Ringworm often spreads by direct skin-to-skin contact with an infected person or animal. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ringworm-body/symptoms-causes/syc-20353780
I think this is more of a tarot card thing.He got a fungus from a haircut was not on my bingo card
What is the irrational part?I have an irrational fear of ringworm. In high school I had a buddy who never ever took off his watch, even to shower. Eventually he did and underneath was this puss red ring thing that looked like something out of Stranger Things. I swear to go it even looked like it was pulsing. I'd douse the fuck out of it with agent orange and take the 80 game ban if it were I. Screw ringworm.
Ortiz had a bad take too, which could be interpreted as "MLB should have been soft on Tatis, like they were with me"I posted this in the other Tatis thread, but it seems like this one has more traction.
Pedro with a weird take on the Tatis situation. Somehow it’s San Diego’s fault?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChVyFTgssJM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
That is a weird take. I think I understand the spirit of it? Is he saying that teams should be taking more responsibility for a player's recovery?I posted this in the other Tatis thread, but it seems like this one has more traction:
Pedro with a weird take on the Tatis situation. Somehow it’s San Diego’s fault?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChVyFTgssJM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I didn’t see Papi’s take. Got a link?Ortiz had a bad take too, which could be interpreted as "MLB should have been soft on Tatis, like they were with me"
"MLB needs to have some regulations before they made public news like the one that happened to Tatis Jr. I think they haven't handled this situation the right way. We can't kill our product, we're talking about an amazing player."I didn’t see Papi’s take. Got a link?
Yeah, that’s terrible. Where was the outcry when all the other players got suspended over the years? Maybe nobody was quite on Tatis’ level, but Braun was at his peak when he got popped."MLB needs to have some regulations before they made public news like the one that happened to Tatis Jr. I think they haven't handled this situation the right way. We can't kill our product, we're talking about an amazing player."
View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10045522-david-ortiz-says-fernando-tatis-jr-ped-suspension-wasnt-handled-right-way-by-mlb
I don't understand what he thinks the "right way" is… Ignore the results because he's star? Don't suspend him because maybe he really had ringworm? Secretly suspend him 80 games while he fake retires to pursue his dream of playing D-League basketball?"MLB needs to have some regulations before they made public news like the one that happened to Tatis Jr. I think they haven't handled this situation the right way. We can't kill our product, we're talking about an amazing player."
View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10045522-david-ortiz-says-fernando-tatis-jr-ped-suspension-wasnt-handled-right-way-by-mlb
I preferred ARod's take about how he wishes young guys like Tatis would have learned from all the stupid mistakes he made in his career and how he won't get into the Hall of Fame anymore.
View: https://twitter.com/AROD/status/1559245197925421056
I don't disagree in principle, but I think there's a good chance that Ortiz feels more comfortable commenting now that he's not an active player.Yeah, that’s terrible. Where was the outcry when all the other players got suspended over the years? Maybe nobody was quite on Tatis’ level, but Braun was at his peak when he got popped.
Jeter definitely looks like he'd rather be anywhere else, that is for sure.Yes, ARod says the right things. But Jeter is giving off a “I’ve heard this all before and I don’t buy it” vibe. No?
Nope. Don’t buy into it.I can't believe how much I like that A-Rod quote. He...i can't believe i am saying this...is becoming likeable.
ARod kind of threw his parents under the bus: If only he’d been raised right like the Captain he wouldn’t have made so many mistakes. Nobody taught him about lying and cheating.
He says something really relatable one out of every 10 times. The other 9 times he's just saying what he thinks you want him to say.I can't believe how much I like that A-Rod quote. He...i can't believe i am saying this...is becoming likeable.
Sure he did - Bronson Arroyo.Re: his parents, didn't arod not have a dad?
I have been on it for eczema off and on through my adult life. It works great for a while then slows down and I switch to another one, but eventually end up back.I read it as:
As a dermatologist I frequently prescribe Clobetasol (for certain conditions).
With my knowledge/expertise, I would NOT prescribe it for ringworm as it would make that condition worse.