PrometheusWakefield said:Holy crap. Boegarts for Zimmerman? Cueto? Cashner and Ross?
If you thought Xander was weak at SS, wait until you see Hanley
PrometheusWakefield said:Holy crap. Boegarts for Zimmerman? Cueto? Cashner and Ross?
Laughing hysterically, but really not far from accurate.E5 Yaz said:The world has been taken over by teenagers with Twitter accounts
PrometheusWakefield said:Holy crap. Boegarts for Zimmerman? Cueto? Cashner and Ross?
Fair point, but people can change over the best part of a decade, especially in their 20s. You'd certainly hope he's matured a bit given some of the stories about him loafing in Miami, but then the Dodgers clubhouse didn't have a great rep last year. In any case, makeup would be my only concern (assuming reasonable cash/years).nvalvo said:
I think they know the guy pretty well. Cherington was Director of Player Development during Ramirez' entire tenure with Boston.
LahoudOrBillyC said:I would prefer Bogaerts to either Hanley or Panda, not even considering cost.
Google translateCorsi said:
Marino Pepén @Marino_Pepen 4s4 seconds ago
CALIENTE: #RedSox conjuntamente con Sandoval, muestra marcado interés en Hanley Ramírez. #RedSoxNation #MLB
Does this mean agreement w/ Sandoval? Someone with better Spanish skills, please translate.
No. It just says they are showing interest in both guys.Corsi said:Marino Pepén @Marino_Pepen 4s4 seconds ago
CALIENTE: #RedSox conjuntamente con Sandoval, muestra marcado interés en Hanley Ramírez. #RedSoxNation #MLB
Does this mean agreement w/ Sandoval? Someone with better Spanish skills, please translate.
Corsi said:
Corsi said:
Marino Pepén @Marino_Pepen 4s4 seconds ago
CALIENTE: #RedSox conjuntamente con Sandoval, muestra marcado interés en Hanley Ramírez. #RedSoxNation #MLB
Does this mean agreement w/ Sandoval? Someone with better Spanish skills, please translate.
Corsi said:Gotcha, I read reading it "Red Sox in conjunction with Sandoval," which I thought was just garbled "in agreement with." Disregard!
jimbobim said:I mean this would be a hell of a lineup
1) Mookie RF
2) Pedroia 2b
3) Ortiz DH
4) Napoli1B
5) Sandoval 3b
6) Hanley LF
7)Xander SS
8) Castillo CF
9) Vazquez C
I mean pretty much no breaks .... Cespedes, Vic, Craig Nava all available for pitching ...
nvalvo said:
Hot: Red Sox, in conjunction with Sandoval, demonstrate marked interest in Hanley Ramírez.
grimshaw said:Specifically what are people guesses of contract value and length?
It wouldn't shock me as 7 years @ 150 or so.
Fangraphs crowdsourcing: 5/90grimshaw said:Specifically what are people guesses of contract value and length for Hanley?
It wouldn't shock me as 7 years @ 150 or so. A deal coming together this quickly with no leaks of who else, if anyone, he visitied makes more sense if they guaranteed him a ton of years.
Keep Nava as the utility backup at LF, RF, and 1B, with Holt as the backup at 2B, SS, 3B, LF, and RF. Betts covers CF when Castillo needs a break. Add a LH backup catcher.jimbobim said:I mean this would be a hell of a lineup
1) Mookie RF
2) Pedroia 2b
3) Ortiz DH
4) Napoli1B
5) Sandoval 3b
6) Hanley LF
7)Xander SS
8) Castillo CF
9) Vazquez C
I mean pretty much no breaks .... Cespedes, Vic, Craig Nava all available for pitching ...
grimshaw said:Specifically what are people guesses of contract value and length for Hanley?
It wouldn't shock me as 7 years @ 150 or so. A deal coming together this quickly with no leaks of who else, if anyone, he visitied makes more sense if they guaranteed him a ton of years.
Ya, because of the RH power premium in the market and the fact he's average about 1 more WAR per season.NDame616 said:
You think they would do 7/$150 for Hanley?
I'm thinking his deal would be pretty much the same, if not a tick under, the reported 5/95 for Panda
grimshaw said:Ya, because of the RH power premium in the market and the fact he's average about 1 more WAR per season.
If guys like Martin and Sandoval are getting 5+ years, a legit all-star should get more. The age/weight thing maybe offsets between him and Sandoval as well.
Wouldn't mind being wrong.
I've sullied enough threads today.Papelbon's Poutine said:But what did Jim Bowden say!?!?!
His .165 ISO would have been tied for 25th among outfielders with Alex Gordon. His .362 wOBA would have put him 13th between Justin Upton and Matt Holliday. He's not getting 7/150, but it's not because of his bat.NDame616 said:
He's a legit All Star? Then why wasn't he an All Star the past 4 years?
The past 4 years he's averaging a OPS of .816, with a BA of .277. He also has declining defense, clubhouse issues, and can't hit for much power if he's an OF. He's a good player and an upgrade at 3B, but he isn't anywhere near a 7/150 player.
it's 18 AAV for Sandoval vs 22 for Hanley.NDame616 said:
He's a legit All Star? Then why wasn't he an All Star the past 4 years?
The past 4 years he's averaging a OPS of .816, with a BA of .277. He also has declining defense, clubhouse issues, and can't hit for much power if he's an OF. He's a good player and an upgrade at 3B, but he isn't anywhere near a 7/150 player.
And you would be right and I would be (thankfully) wrong.NDame616 said:
You think they would do 7/$150 for Hanley?
I'm thinking his deal would be pretty much the same, if not a tick under, the reported 5/95 for Panda
https://twitter.com/Drew_am_I/status/536674008272756736Corsi said:
https://twitter.com/nickcafardo/status/536747276145004545Corsi said:Have been able to confirm @jonHeyman report that Red Sox are indeed trying to sign Sandoval as well as Ramirez per @ken_Rosenthal
Yeah, I'm really hoping they back out on Panda now and focus on pitching.Madmartigan said:I'd prefer they spend Panda's money on Shields now that Hanley is signed. I don''t really see the need to sign both of them; pitching is the priority now.
My love of a Panda signing would depend on the corresponding trade(s).SoxFanForsyth said:I may be in the minority here but I would love a Panda signing. I think he would wear out the monster with his oppo field swing. And given that Cespedes is a FA after 2014, we have our LF for a few years locked up in Hanley.
I'm thrilled with this. As unpopular as that may be