He punted from field goal range. WTF is wrong with people? And Gase could have accepted it.Waahhhh, BB "exploited" the rules again
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/belichick-exploited-loophole-nfl-rules-091305795.html
He punted from field goal range. WTF is wrong with people? And Gase could have accepted it.Waahhhh, BB "exploited" the rules again
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/belichick-exploited-loophole-nfl-rules-091305795.html
I didn't see that article as whining. I thought it was kind of respectful of Belichick's cleverness. If it was whining, it wouldn't have included Belichick's admission that they exploited a loophole and that it probably should be closed, but as of now it's not so it's ok to use it. That was as fair an article on that little sequence as you're gonna find, I think.Waahhhh, BB "exploited" the rules again
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/belichick-exploited-loophole-nfl-rules-091305795.html
I tend to agree, with the exception of the title itself, and of course, the reaction it's going to stir from the rest of the nation that doesn't understand the rules.I didn't see that article as whining. I thought it was kind of respectful of Belichick's cleverness. If it was whining, it wouldn't have included Belichick's admission that they exploited a loophole and that it probably should be closed, but as of now it's not so it's ok to use it. That was as fair an article on that little sequence as you're gonna find, I think.
This is what I thought; eventually we are probably going to need Nugent to hit a 45+ yard kick and I'd like to see him make one in a low-stakes game environment.I'd have much rather tried out Nugent's range from that distance just to see how he'd do in game conditions, and saved this sort of thing for situations where it actually might matter
I was under the impression that one more penalty and the refs would give them an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty. Since it's a 15 yarder, Gase would probably accept.So could the Patriots have theoretically just kept doing the same thing over and over again, each time daring Gase to finally accept the penalty? If so then Belichick really didn't even exploit the loophole as much as he could have.
Yes, they mentioned that on the telecast after the false start - I think Booger said something like, "One more and the refs give them a 15 yarder."I was under the impression that one more penalty and the refs would give them an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty. Since it's a 15 yarder, Gase would probably accept.
Got it, thanks. Was watching the game on mute so didn't hear that comment.Yes, they mentioned that on the telecast after the false start - I think Booger said something like, "One more and the refs give them a 15 yarder."
I think it was John Parry actually (the ref analyst)Yes, they mentioned that on the telecast after the false start - I think Booger said something like, "One more and the refs give them a 15 yarder."
Back in the Atlanta Super Bowl there was a play that surprised a lot of people. The Falcons went to punt with about 50 seconds or more left on the clock and they took a delay of game penalty. Then they wound the clock and the quarter ended before the punt.So could the Patriots have theoretically just kept doing the same thing over and over again, each time daring Gase to finally accept the penalty? If so then Belichick really didn't even exploit the loophole as much as he could have.
The solution is to simply not start the game clock after a penalty. Have it start at the next snap. Have that be the rule; it would take care of the problem immediately.Back in the Atlanta Super Bowl there was a play that surprised a lot of people. The Falcons went to punt with about 50 seconds or more left on the clock and they took a delay of game penalty. Then they wound the clock and the quarter ended before the punt.
I think that kind of brought this issue to national attention. I didn't know the rule was that if the clock is moving when a pre-snap penalty is committed the clock gets rewound until 2:00 left. Even Buck was surprised as I recall that game. It was a bit of a perfect storm, because ordinarily who ever looks at the clock. The fact that it was right at the end of the quarter in the Super Bowl and was a delay of game penalty caused some media attention as I recall.
One of the questions was whether you could just continually take delay of game penalties to cause the other team to use a time out to keep the clock from running all the way to 2:00 warning. Imagine a team is punting from its one yard line and has a big lead. Why not? You can take infinite half the distance penalties.
In the aftermath, it was clarified that this kind of time abuse can be a 15 yard penalty. And John Parry last night mentioned in the booth that it would be 15 yards if Belichick did it again. I think the rule may even have been clarified to permit an official to stop the clock for timing delays, which make sense. Because in the half the distance situation on fourth down, even a 15 yard penalty is no big deal.
I remember the play from the Super Bowl, clearly, but I don't remember it getting ANY attention after the game. Otherwise wouldn't the competition committee have fixed it, like they did with the NYG too many men issue?Back in the Atlanta Super Bowl there was a play that surprised a lot of people. The Falcons went to punt with about 50 seconds or more left on the clock and they took a delay of game penalty. Then they wound the clock and the quarter ended before the punt.
I think that kind of brought this issue to national attention. I didn't know the rule was that if the clock is moving when a pre-snap penalty is committed the clock gets rewound until 2:00 left. Even Buck was surprised as I recall that game. It was a bit of a perfect storm, because ordinarily who ever looks at the clock. The fact that it was right at the end of the quarter in the Super Bowl and was a delay of game penalty caused some media attention as I recall.
One of the questions was whether you could just continually take delay of game penalties to cause the other team to use a time out to keep the clock from running all the way to 2:00 warning. Imagine a team is punting from its one yard line and has a big lead. Why not? You can take infinite half the distance penalties.
In the aftermath, it was clarified that this kind of time abuse can be a 15 yard penalty. And John Parry last night mentioned in the booth that it would be 15 yards if Belichick did it again. I think the rule may even have been clarified to permit an official to stop the clock for timing delays, which make sense. Because in the half the distance situation on fourth down, even a 15 yard penalty is no big deal.
You can't do that either though. The offense could commit a penalty to stop the clock in a situation where they're trailing and out of TOs.The solution is to simply not start the game clock after a penalty. Have it start at the next snap. Have that be the rule; it would take care of the problem immediately.
Well then BB would have been accused of running up the score.I'd have much rather tried out Nugent's range from that distance just to see how he'd do in game conditions, and saved this sort of thing for situations where it actually might matter
Sure they could. But then they'd be penalized. Which I'm sure they'd be happy to take, but oh well.You can't do that either though. The offense could commit a penalty to stop the clock in a situation where they're trailing and out of TOs.
Wasn't the issue(loophole) last night that it ran on a declined penalties?Having the clock stop on accepted penalties but run on declined penalties in those situations seems like a way to fix that particular loophole.
I think that's exactly what happened here. Right after the Super Bowl, the competition committee proposed a rule to make it unsportsmanlike conduct to manipulate the game clock by taking multiple penalties on the same down.I remember the play from the Super Bowl, clearly, but I don't remember it getting ANY attention after the game. Otherwise wouldn't the competition committee have fixed it, like they did with the NYG too many men issue?
Makes more sense than Booger!I think it was John Parry actually (the ref analyst)
If they were inside of 2 minutes and didn't have any timeouts, there would be a 10 second run off in that situation.You can't do that either though. The offense could commit a penalty to stop the clock in a situation where they're trailing and out of TOs.
The casual-yet-poignant reference to "28-3" says everything. They've been scarred for life.We reference a previous game against Seattle. On Jan. 13, 2013, the top-seeded Falcons blew a 20-point lead in the Georgia Dome. Marshawn Lynch scored with 31 seconds remaining to put the Seahawks ahead 28-27. Twenty-three seconds later, the Falcons were back in front, this time to stay.
A Ryan pass to Harry Douglas for 22 yards. A Ryan pass to Tony Gonzalez for 19 more. Bryant from 49 for the win. Moneyball. Would have been good from 59.
What would have been the worst lost in Falcons’ history — 28-3 was four years and three weeks from happening — became the second-greatest victory in team annals, trailing only the upset of 15-1 Minnesota in the Metrodome for the NFC title. Ryan and Bryant — closers extraordinaire.
Holy shit! That's their local paper.The casual-yet-poignant reference to "28-3" says everything. They've been scarred for life.
Paywall ... can you share some clips?
Does this link work?Paywall ... can you share some clips?
Basically it's saying if the Bills win the East they should declare a national holiday.Paywall ... can you share some clips?
I guessed that much from the link.Basically it's saying if the Bills win the East they should declare a national holiday.
Tom Brady is finally looking his age (a handsome 89) as he struggles to connect with another iffy set of wide receivers the Patriots appear to have found on Etsy.
Meanwhile, the NFL is investigating yet another claim of Patriots cheating shenanigans, and the irritated and anxious New England fandom is behaving like Cape Cod will be closed next summer.
Let’s get some perspective here. There are at least 28 or so teams in the NFL which would love to have the Patriots’ problems. Caution is advisable. New England motivationally feasts on predictions of their demise. We heard a lot of “End is Nigh” speculation around this time last year, and then the Patriots went on to win their nine billionth Super Bowl.
Buffalo isn’t a perfect club—they’ve beaten a lot of middling teams on their way to their first 10-win season since Bill Clinton was in office—but they’re feisty, and they’re just one game in the standings behind the Grumpy Lobster Boat Captain, Bill Belichick.
The league wants to know why a Pats staffer was videotaping the sideline of a Bengals game a week before New England’s game with Cincinnati. This is suspicious because A) it was the Patriots and B) who on earth wants to watch tape from a Bengals game?
Go check out his postgame tweets.Better flip that thing back over again, pal.
View: https://twitter.com/Dallaswentdown/status/1208155445829001219
I can't get past all his missing chiclets, he should worry more about gingivitis than Brady.Go check out his postgame tweets.
He sure did.I mean, I did think Allen got facemasked on the sneak. Oh well.
and shelton got mugged on literally the next play, the long pass that set the bills up 1st and goal, strangely he doesn't mention that one thoughI mean, I did think Allen got facemasked on the sneak. Oh well.
u mad bro?and shelton got mugged on literally the next play, the long pass that set the bills up 1st and goal, strangely he doesn't mention that one though
It’s a shame he wasn’t stopped short so we could see the fallout.I mean, I did think Allen got facemasked on the sneak. Oh well.
Feel like Steve Smith never picks Pats. Likely residual bitterness from SB 38 and 2014 Div Round.it was funny seeing 2 of the 3 NFL Network "analysts" pregame pick the Bills.
we should have blown the Bills out. what are you smoking?
I also got the sense in the postgame show that he and Willie M. have the kind of relationship where Smith is disinclined to agree with Willie on a pick for the sake of friendly competition.Feel like Steve Smith never picks Pats. Likely residual bitterness from SB 38 and 2014 Div Round.
BB is Moby Dick. Everyone else is Ahab.Grumpy Lobster Boat Captain - funny image, that immediately conjured up the image of another lobster boat captain/Boston champion...
On a different note, I wonder - has any SOSH'er ever compared BB to Ahab? Probably a treasure trove of images and funny retellin of Moby Dick through the eyes of a Patriot Queequeg. Which player would be Queequeg? Which one would be Ishmael? Is Goodell Moby Dick?