The Red Sox have fired Chaim Bloom

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What sourcing do you think he had to identify Bloom's days as numbered and what angle do you think those folks would want to put out in the aftermath of a firing?
Of course Carrabis is a Sox mouthpiece. But that doesn't mean what he's putting out there isn't the rationale as to why Bloom was let go.

Are you suggesting that Bloom was let go for no good reason, and those deals that weren't done are smoke to cover... what exactly? Finish that thought for me.
 

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Last two years the Sox have lost nearly their entire rotation, all at once. It's sucked.

Also Bloom's record with major league talent is pretty discernible. Both catchers, Turner, Yoshida, Duvall, Martin, Schreiber -- seriously, everyone but Kluber, and Story if you think the elbow thing wasn't worth waiting out.
Can we please not call Story a win? He was cheap cause he was broken. No one else bought because they cared about winning up front. Hopefully he’ll be good going forward (love him on the diamond) but hoping to get your value on the back 9 of a contract is a rough spot.
 

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You've been waiting for this since Bloom was hired? Why?
Because with few exceptions I think his moves have been a disaster, and he was given a longer leash than necessary because of a flukish 2021.

Mookie was a disaster even if forced by ownership.
While the farm is rebuilt, two of their best prospects would have been picked by most of the teams in baseball at that slot. I'm not going to give Bloom extra credit for Meyer and Teel falling in the draft.
Not getting under the luxury tax was idiotic. Not trading guys at either of the last two trade deadlines is stupid.

I'm really sick of this team hiring or signing Tampa retreads. We've seen it for 15 years. Lugo, Price, Crawford, Bloom. I don't know why what Tampa does works in Tampa and doesn't work here and I'm pretty tired of the biggest fails in the organization being directly from that organization.
 

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Can we please not call Story a win? He was cheap cause he was broken. No one else bought because they cared about winning up front. Hopefully he’ll be good going forward (love him on the diamond) but hoping to get your value on the back 9 of a contract is a rough spot.
I think he hit a 3 run homer as you were typing this. Keep talking smack!
 

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Forst was part of the Red Sox in 1999 as a player and went to Harvard (but is from LA).

Antonetti is a New Haven County and Umass guy so not sure if he’s a Red Sox or Yankees fan growing up (but I’m sure people here know)

But both are currently at small market clubs not sniffing the playoffs fwiw (maybe not much)
Antonetti is currently president of baseball ops for Cleveland, so it wouldn't be a promotion for him to make the lateral move to the Red Sox. Better team to be with?
 

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Of course Carrabis is a Sox mouthpiece. But that doesn't mean what he's putting out there isn't the rationale as to why Bloom was let go.

Are you suggesting that Bloom was let go for no good reason, and those deals that weren't done are smoke to cover... what exactly? Finish that thought for me.
...to cover that the Sox had a spending cap that handcuffed a GM and cut him off into a developmental plan because they don't want to hear about MVP Mookie Betts in LA.

I'm not saying he's inaccurate on the rationale, I'm saying it's not a sufficient rationale and it's painting one dimension of what is likely a much more complex scenario.

There was debatable reason to let Bloom go - I think it is the move of a rudderless, impulsive ownership base that doesn't want people dropping Sox/Yanks September tix on Reddit for 40% of the price, others think Bloom can't cut it at the MLB level in terms of talent evaluation. Carrabis story is going to tell the viewpoint of the people he gets his info from - we have no idea who the prospects were, what the financials were, or any of the details - other than the Sox didn't close these deals when most of the people here wanted the team to not sell.

I feel fairly confident that if he did trade Sale (subsidized), Paxton, and Verdugo at the deadline and got bad prospects back and the Sox then tanked out of the playoffs from where they were on July 31st...he'd be fired with Carrabis saying he didn't get the right guys back and the team collapsed in August because he traded the heart of the team and one of their two good SPs. Chaim the Mediocre Prospect Hoarder (TM) would be sounded from the threads here that's for sure.
 
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The article quoted outright credited Bloom for most of this. If Henry continues hiring people who focused on this, I'd love it, and all of this really does hinge on who that person ultimately is, but to dismiss Bloom's role given he is credited repeatedly in these articles as the driving force feels wrong.
Good point, this article did credit Bloom explicitly…as does our interviewee above. My recollection of the interview was it was one of many areas of investment Henry had made in the team as part of the new ‘regime’ he expected the GM to implement. Either way, I’m quite optimistic that this aspect of the organization is here to stay.

Bloom did a great job of buy and hold, which won over half the board. Unfortunately he also only won half the games which wasn’t enough.

Sometimes (almost all the time) the scrappy start up CEO isn’t the one to take it all the way to public. That’s Bloom to me.
 

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I thought he’d get to start 2024 but maybe they didn’t trust/like his plan to make them competitive next year.

I have zero problem with them firing him if they think they can do better. Or if they think they can’t do worse.
 

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The trade deadline stuff is overblown. The players and prospects moving don't usually amount to much. It seems more likely that Bloom and ownership were at the point in the season where they were discussing what offseason moves they may make and there was a strong difference of opinion. They want someone who is more aligned with what they want to put on the field next year.
 

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Can we please not call Story a win? He was cheap cause he was broken. No one else bought because they cared about winning up front. Hopefully he’ll be good going forward (love him on the diamond) but hoping to get your value on the back 9 of a contract is a rough spot.
I mean, I wasn't, but am optimistic about a guy who's just 30, approaching 30 bWAR, and just healed from his one major injury.
 

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Theo took two years coming into a 93 win team with multiple stars the team paid to keep as well as a generational pitcher and another ace caliber guy. Epstein made several good moves to add a handful of wins to those teams (spending money and resources to do it of course) and get into a championship position.
Whoa, hold on now:

1.) Epstein started to take the reins in the middle of the 2002 season during Mike Port's interim reign. If you're comparing before and after, it might be fairer to compare to the 2001 season when they finished 82-79.

2.) Epstein's "several good moves to add a handful of wins" included things like "trading flotsam and jetsam for the guy would finish #2 in the 2004 Cy Young race," "signing a 2-year, $4 million contract with a third baseman who would win the batting title for the Sox in 2003,""pulling a 26-year-old future 200 IP-per-year starter off of the waiver wire from the Pirates", "finding a 110 OPS+ first baseman who was about to be exiled to Japan," and, of course, "picking up a future Hall of Famer for $1 million after he was cast aside by the Twins." That's....a lot, and only the first one required much in the way of resources.

It's no demerit to anyone to say that they don't measure up to 2003-04 Theo Epstein...but let's not pretend he lucked into a team that was one player away from a championship or that he chewed up all of the Sox' resources to do it.
 

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...to cover that the Sox had a spending cap that handcuffed a GM and cut him off into a developmental plan because they don't want to hear about MVP Mookie Betts in LA.

I'm not saying he's inaccurate on the rationale, I'm saying it's not a sufficient rationale and it's painting one dimension of what is likely a much more complex scenario.

There was debatable reason to let Bloom go - I think it is the move of a rudderless, impulsive ownership base that doesn't want people dropping Sox/Yanks September tix on Reddit for 40% of the price, others think Bloom can't cut it at the MLB level in terms of talent evaluation. Carrabis story is going to tell the viewpoint of the people he gets his info from - we have no idea who the prospects were, what the financials were, or any of the details - other than the Sox didn't close these deals when most of the people here wanted the team to not sell.

I feel fairly confident that if he did trade Sale (subsidized), Paxton, and Verdugo at the deadline and got bad prospects back and the Sox then tanked out of the playoffs from where they were on July 31st...he'd be fired with Carrabis saying he didn't get the right guys back and the team collapsed in August because he traded the heart of the team and one of their two good SPs. Chaim the Mediocre Prospect Hoarder (TM) would be sounded from the threads here that's for sure.
Not for nothing, but it strikes me that your reply is just as "biased" as Carrabis's. I mean "a rudderless, impulsive ownership base" is nothing but your opinion, and "they don't want to hear about MVP Mookie Betts in LA" is pure speculation.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no idea. Just that you're ripping Carrabis for parroting the POV of the ownership that fired Bloom, while you parrot your own speculative comments because, presumably, you didn't want him to be fired. Seems like two sides of the same coin to me.
 

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Whoa, hold on now:

1.) Epstein started to take the reins in the middle of the 2002 season during Mike Port's interim reign. If you're comparing before and after, it might be fairer to compare to the 2001 season when they finished 82-79.

2.) Epstein's "several good moves to add a handful of wins" included things like "trading flotsam and jetsam for the guy would finish #2 in the 2004 Cy Young race," "signing a 2-year, $4 million contract with a third baseman who would win the batting title for the Sox in 2003,""pulling a 26-year-old future 200 IP-per-year starter off of the waiver wire from the Pirates", "finding a 110 OPS+ first baseman who was about to be exiled to Japan," and, of course, "picking up a future Hall of Famer for $1 million after he was cast aside by the Twins." That's....a lot, and only the first one required much in the way of resources.

It's no demerit to anyone to say that they don't measure up to 2003-04 Theo Epstein...but let's not pretend he lucked into a team that was one player away from a championship or that he chewed up all of the Sox' resources to do it.
He also traded a franchise cornerstone beloved perhaps to the same extent that Mookie was, did so during the season, in a move that received mixed reviews at the time and it worked.
 

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I didn't like a lot of the moves Chaim made dating back to the Mookie trade, but I've also felt that was part of a directive from ownership to go in a certain direction (more cost-controlled, more flexibility with the roster, and less year-to-year fluctuation). At some point I eventually accepted that this was the direction the team was going in and hoped for the best, even if I thought there were miscues and negative directions along the way.

Re-stocking the farm system was good, Mayer is obviously the crown jewel which was a symptom of a last-place finish which was thankfully done during the COVID year to minimize the suffering. We will see over the next few years how a lot of the prospects pan out. I agree with other posters, it seems like given the assets at his disposal, most competent GMs could re-stock a farm system given Bloom started his tenure by trading the team's best player for a haul of prospects.

I'm not pessimistic about his firing. I don't have a problem with someone new coming in and looking things over. Bloom clearly struggled to identify and add talent at the MLB level, especially pitching. That step is critical for the Sox to take the next step forward, and I understand why they wanted to get someone else involved before the off season really kicks off.
 

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I'm damn surprised and the slightest bit disappointed, would have liked to have seen one more year to see if something could come together. But can see the argument that he's never put together a pitching staff that could hold water, doesn't seem like the minors' prospects are likely to change that soon either.
 

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Anyone think Bloom was part of the starters not going very deep?

It seems stupid to even ask the question, but Houck went six for only the fifth time this season, and topped 100 pitches for the first time. Sure, he was pitching well and the Yankee offense has been struggling for a month, but I wonder. It's a thing I'm gonna look at the rest of the way.
 

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Whoa, hold on now:

1.) Epstein started to take the reins in the middle of the 2002 season during Mike Port's interim reign. If you're comparing before and after, it might be fairer to compare to the 2001 season when they finished 82-79.

2.) Epstein's "several good moves to add a handful of wins" included things like "trading flotsam and jetsam for the guy would finish #2 in the 2004 Cy Young race," "signing a 2-year, $4 million contract with a third baseman who would win the batting title for the Sox in 2003,""pulling a 26-year-old future 200 IP-per-year starter off of the waiver wire from the Pirates", "finding a 110 OPS+ first baseman who was about to be exiled to Japan," and, of course, "picking up a future Hall of Famer for $1 million after he was cast aside by the Twins." That's....a lot, and only the first one required much in the way of resources.

It's no demerit to anyone to say that they don't measure up to 2003-04 Theo Epstein...but let's not pretend he lucked into a team that was one player away from a championship or that he chewed up all of the Sox' resources to do it.
Thank you. Minimizing Theo's construction of those teams made me feel like I was taking crazy pills.
 

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I mean, I wasn't, but am optimistic about a guy who's just 30, approaching 30 bWAR, and just healed from his one major injury.
I’m similarly optimistic that it works out, and the D shows that it’s not physical…he just needs reps to get the bat going. My point is that referring to his signing now as a win, or showing a differentiated skill, is misguided (and my apologies that I misunderstood you to be saying that). Bloom exploited the fact that he didn’t really care about winning in the first 1-2 years of the contract, and could get the AAV by paying for the repair year.
 

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Chaim is going to have beers with Dan Duquette in 3-4 years as the Sox celebrate their next WS championship, and right after Duquette finishes mumbling about Pedro and Manny and Varitek and Lowe and and Trot, he will put a compassionate hand on Chaim’s shoulder as Chaim says “Casas, Bello, Anthony, Teel, Mayer, Bleis. . .. I drafted or developed all those guys.”
"Listen, pal. I may be in Heaven having lunch and wondering what to do with Wilie McGee, but Trot Nixon was mine!"
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Whoa, hold on now:

1.) Epstein started to take the reins in the middle of the 2002 season during Mike Port's interim reign. If you're comparing before and after, it might be fairer to compare to the 2001 season when they finished 82-79.

2.) Epstein's "several good moves to add a handful of wins" included things like "trading flotsam and jetsam for the guy would finish #2 in the 2004 Cy Young race," "signing a 2-year, $4 million contract with a third baseman who would win the batting title for the Sox in 2003,""pulling a 26-year-old future 200 IP-per-year starter off of the waiver wire from the Pirates", "finding a 110 OPS+ first baseman who was about to be exiled to Japan," and, of course, "picking up a future Hall of Famer for $1 million after he was cast aside by the Twins." That's....a lot, and only the first one required much in the way of resources.

It's no demerit to anyone to say that they don't measure up to 2003-04 Theo Epstein...but let's not pretend he lucked into a team that was one player away from a championship or that he chewed up all of the Sox' resources to do it.
(Edit: Fair enough, I am unsure to how much his role was but fair on the date)

I was not diminishing in any way what Theo Epstein did. He made several essential moves, many of which on the cheap, which put the team into a great position to win. I said he used resources to acquire key guys - which is exactly what trading for Curt Schilling was. My point was that he walked into a team with a lot of talent on it already that was ready to win - he said as much himself when he was hired - in a solid contractual position. He deserves all the credit in the world for getting them across the finish line...but Bloom also wasn't walking into prime Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe, Jason Varitek, and Trot Nixon, and Manny Ramirez (among others) on the roster and getting to keep them all either (Lowe wasn't that guy by 2004 of course).

I'm not minimizing it, I was responding to a user who asked "how long Theo took to win" with trying to explain the differences in the scenarios involved here. You give Theo Epstein the end of the 2019 Boston Red Sox and a mandate to trade Mookie Betts, he's probably not winning a WS.
 

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Not for nothing, but it strikes me that your reply is just as "biased" as Carrabis's. I mean "a rudderless, impulsive ownership base" is nothing but your opinion, and "they don't want to hear about MVP Mookie Betts in LA" is pure speculation.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no idea. Just that you're ripping Carrabis for parroting the POV of the ownership that fired Bloom, while you parrot your own speculative comments because, presumably, you didn't want him to be fired. Seems like two sides of the same coin to me.
I don't either, but no one is taking my information as reporting, they are taking Carrabis.. I literally starting my sentence with "I think" - it's really effing clear it's my opinion and I'm not a beat reporter. My whole point was to be cautious with media reporting because the people who have sources within the team will be getting info with that skew, which has happened with every firing that ever happens in Boston media.
 

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Anyone think Bloom was part of the starters not going very deep?

It seems stupid to even ask the question, but Houck went six for only the fifth time this season, and topped 100 pitches for the first time. Sure, he was pitching well and the Yankee offense has been struggling for a month, but I wonder. It's a thing I'm gonna look at the rest of the way.
The pitchers all being absolutely awful their 3rd time through the rotation is why they didn't go deeper into games.

Whether there is something developmentally that could be done to fix that, I don't know, but hopefully the new CBO does.
 

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I’m similarly optimistic that it works out, and the D shows that it’s not physical…he just needs reps to get the bat going. My point is that referring to his signing now as a win, or showing a differentiated skill, is misguided (and my apologies that I misunderstood you to be saying that). Bloom exploited the fact that he didn’t really care about winning in the first 1-2 years of the contract, and could get the AAV by paying for the repair year.
It's kind of darkly funny that he just hit a 3-run bomb and we got an amazing start out of Houck, two guys whose last 6 weeks maybe got Bloom fired. In general I expect the next guy to live off Bloom's work, including Story on a reasonable deal. We'll see I guess.
 

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Anyone think Bloom was part of the starters not going very deep?

It seems stupid to even ask the question, but Houck went six for only the fifth time this season, and topped 100 pitches for the first time. Sure, he was pitching well and the Yankee offense has been struggling for a month, but I wonder. It's a thing I'm gonna look at the rest of the way.
The way Houck struggled in the 5th today I think that might have been the end for him if it wasn't a DH today. But who knows? Maybe he learned something about himself. (or whatever psychobabular platitude you prefer here).
 

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Chaim is going to have beers with Dan Duquette in 3-4 years as the Sox celebrate their next WS championship, and right after Duquette finishes mumbling about Pedro and Manny and Varitek and Lowe and and Trot, he will put a compassionate hand on Chaim’s shoulder as Chaim says “Casas, Bello, Anthony, Teel, Mayer, Bleis. . .. I drafted or developed all those guys.”
And then the Duke will say “Slow down on the suds, Chaim. Casas and Bello were signed before you got there”
 

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And shows what I know, since I opined yesterday that Henry was perfectly happy with things. I'm shocked.
 

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Not very solid reasoning. Winning a championship does not excuse all mistakes. For example, if Dombrowski were still here and the Red Sox hadn't won more than 70 games in a season since 2020, people would be calling for his head.
Well, Sale and Price did result in the team's hoisting a flag that is still flying. And Sale's extension led to a payroll crunch and at least indirectly led to Dombrowski's firing.

The trade deadline stuff is overblown. The players and prospects moving don't usually amount to much. It seems more likely that Bloom and ownership were at the point in the season where they were discussing what offseason moves they may make and there was a strong difference of opinion. They want someone who is more aligned with what they want to put on the field next year.
Except I don't think Henry was amused that last season's deadline left the team above the tax threshold leading into an offseason in which they said goodbye to a couple of key free agents. The trade deadline is one of the key responsibilities of a GM, so subsequent failures are not "overblown" by any means.
 

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I tend to agree. Bloom was... OK.

The farm system is better. But it seems like that was accomplished by employing the same approach that a couple dozen other wanna-be GMs would have employed. I haven't read anything about Bloom being some kind of savant or visionary in drafting or developing players.

His major league record is decidedly mixed. For every Turner and Duval there's been a Kluber and Franchy. And I'm still baffled that he thought rolling into this season with Kike and Arroyo manning the middle IF was a winning strategy (or that it was reasonable to think Mondesi was an viable plan instead of a total flyer).

I don't think there's any harm in letting him go. Hopefully the next guy does better.
This is where I am on Bloom. I wasn't calling for his head, but I can't get worked up about his firing either. Even if we were to assume that 2023 was a bridge year, the roster construction was suspect from the start. Bloom's plan to rely on reclamation projects and people playing out of position made sense if the goal were to try to hover around .500 and sell everything not nailed down at the deadline. But Bloom chose inertia, for reasons that are a mystery.

I'm optimistic about the farm system and encouraged by the stories that Bloom built a better infrastructure for scouting and development, but I can't give Bloom too much credit for picks like Mayer and Teel, which any replacement-level executive could have made with the "Best Player Available" strategy. And if he gets credit for allotting draft capital to overslot guys like Anthony (and he should), I also have to ding him for using half of his draft capital on Romero and Coffey.
 

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This is where I am on Bloom. I wasn't calling for his head, but I can't get worked up about his firing either. Even if we were to assume that 2023 was a bridge year, the roster construction was suspect from the start. Bloom's plan to rely on reclamation projects and people playing out of position made sense if the goal were to try to hover around .500 and sell everything not nailed down at the deadline. But Bloom chose inertia, for reasons that are a mystery.

I'm optimistic about the farm system and encouraged by the stories that Bloom built a better infrastructure for scouting and development, but I can't give Bloom too much credit for picks like Mayer and Teel, which any replacement-level executive could have made with the "Best Player Available" strategy. And if he gets credit for allotting draft capital to overslot guys like Anthony (and he should), I also have to ding him for using half of his draft capital on Romero and Coffey.
Most teams have a hit rate that would get every NFL GM fired, so it's hard to argue with their overall success in the draft. It's just baseball. But the development piece is massive, and it's not hard to imagine they fired Dombro for doing too little there. But now that Bloom seems to have rebuilt that... it's built now and might be OK without Bloom going forward. As long as the next guy stays on top of that.
 

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Related to this - I feel like the prevailing collective wisdom on SoSH is (or was, until today) that Bloom was basically brought in to rebuild the farm and/or slash payroll with a several-year grace period on the MLB club. And I'm a bit skeptical of the whole premise.
I think this is something of a straw man.

When Bloom took over the farm system was mostly bare of upper level talent and the club was populated by close-in-time FAs.

You can't build an entire club via FA. So the point wasn't to blindly slash payroll, but to field a competitive team (ideally under the cap, which means a mix of short term FAs and longer signings) while the minors ripened to the point where they could provide a flow of talent to the ML club. Players like Casas, Duran, Abreu, etc. As opposed to Sam Travis and M. Chavis.

I don't think anyone here was arguing ownership didn't care whether the 2021/22/23 teams were bad or not. They were supposed to be competitive enough to pass the squint test.
 

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Anyone think Bloom was part of the starters not going very deep?

It seems stupid to even ask the question, but Houck went six for only the fifth time this season, and topped 100 pitches for the first time. Sure, he was pitching well and the Yankee offense has been struggling for a month, but I wonder. It's a thing I'm gonna look at the rest of the way.
I don't think it's a dumb question or thought to be honest and I (obvously) like Bloom. My gut says it's a combination of devleoped pitchers struggling the third time through the lineup (Crawford mostly but also Bello) and not wanting to overwork more fragile veterans to avoid a breakdown (Paxton, Sale) - but that kind of load on the bullpen on a regular basis really cascades and Bloom's choice in acquiring these particular flaws or being forced to use them can be pinned to a personnel decision. But I can see disagreement here, but that was one of my bigger personal complaints about his roster construction. I could be full of ish though.
 

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Enough with saying anyone could have drafted Teel. 13 other teams had a shot at him and passed.
Gonzalez, who was taken right after him, "was coming up as high as No. 5 to the Twins." 11th-rated prospect Arjun Nimmala was still on the board. Either (or some other available players) would have been perfectly defensible picks.
https://www.mlb.com/news/2023-mlb-draft-day-1-complete-coverage
If any of those guys turns out better than Teel, then we'll never stop hearing about how the Red Sox should have drafted them instead.
 

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I think this is something of a straw man.

When Bloom took over the farm system was mostly bare of upper level talent and the club was populated by close-in-time FAs.

You can't build an entire club via FA. So the point wasn't to blindly slash payroll, but to field a competitive team (ideally under the cap, which means a mix of short term FAs and longer signings) while the minors ripened to the point where they could provide a flow of talent to the ML club. Players like Casas, Duran, Abreu, etc. As opposed to Sam Travis and M. Chavis.

I don't think anyone here was arguing ownership didn't care whether the 2021/22/23 teams were bad or not. They were supposed to be competitive enough to pass the squint test.
There are multiple people who have argued that ownership didn’t care whether the teams are bad. Take a look in the “Who goes first?” Thread.

Multiple people have argued that the only objective was to slash payroll and build the farm system. Maybe you haven’t personally but it’s not a straw man
 

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Enough with saying anyone could have drafted Teel. 13 other teams had a shot at him and passed.
Gonzalez, who was taken right after him, "was coming up as high as No. 5 to the Twins." 11th-rated prospect Arjun Nimmala was still on the board. Either (or some other available players) would have been perfectly defensible picks.
https://www.mlb.com/news/2023-mlb-draft-day-1-complete-coverage
If any of those guys turns out better than Teel, then we'll never stop hearing about how the Red Sox should have drafted them instead.
Well, at some point people will probably stop wasting their energy blaming Bloom for all the world's ills.

Which is probably why firing him & hiring someone else to do similar things only from a better starting place, isn't the worst thing.
 

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This is not exactly on topic, but while I don't mind Cora remaining as manager, although I understand the argument that the Bloom replacement should get to pick his choice, I do hope that the Sox fire most of the coaches. The pitching and hitting coaches don't seem to be able to help much, and whoever is in charge of teaching defense is failing miserably.
 

Patriot_Reign

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I wasn't a fan of Bloom's because I felt like he had a bit of that Danny Ainge thing where he wouldn't make a move unless it was an absolute win but feel like he got screwed here.

Was listening to the first hour of F&M today and felt like they nailed it on some points. Henry wanted to get payroll down to closer to the middle of the league, while still fielding a team that was competitive through most of the summer and every so often making a run in the playoffs. But fan apathy is a killer which the TV and radio ratings bear out and then the optics of the make up game Tuesday with hardly anyone in attendance even with tickets going for dirt cheap is terrible. (granted the weather was crappy and how many people can just bag out of work on short notice to go to the game, curious to see how many people were at today's game with perfect weather).
Betts and Xander aren't on him and feel like he was doing exactly what Henry wanted but he's the fall guy now. And with Theo supposedly out of the picture they're not going to be able to make a splash when they hire someone that 95% of fans have never heard of so not really sure what the point of today's action was.
 
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