If it's a blowout why does it matter if it's Brentz or Castilo in the outfield. At least to my eye, Brentz seemed perfectly adequate in either corner, and the advanced metrics will be unreliable in the sample size he has.Young is pretty awful in the outfield and Benintendi isn't back yet. Mookie and JBJ could get some rest in blowouts like the last two games.
I don't see a valid argument against it. Because they really need to save $800k? Because they can't afford to lose Holaday?
But he would t have been in today's game anyway, because he can't hit and the game was tied. That's not a situation where you use a defensive replacement.Redundant, huh?
Edit: referring to today's game.
You're pinning today's loss on Holt? The closer who throws 99 comes in and walks a guy and then gives up a rocket. How about this guy starts missing more bats? You really think he was going to get out of that situation not coughing up the game even if Brock fields that ball cleanly? You're dreaming.Whatever mistakes were made in signing Castillo are done. But you have a superb defensive outfielder that could be used situationally. Holt's not due up for two innings, which meant nine outs that the Sox had to navigate. If anyone got on base, it would be six.
If Farrell was going to burn his closer in the ninth on the road, then defense should have been paramount. But the second best OF defender in the system was in PAW so Holaday could be protected.
You want the guy with 69k in 44IP and a 1.09 WHIP to "start missing more bats"?You're pinning today's loss on Holt? The closer who throws 99 comes in and walks a guy and then gives up a rocket. How about this guy starts missing more bats? You really think he was going to get out of that situation not coughing up the game even if Brock fields that ball cleanly? You're dreaming.
Because he's not a good enough baseball player to take playing opportunities away from the guys who might make a postseason roster.Too much focus on the play and not on the point that relates to the thread, which is, why is Castillo redundant with Young with expanded rosters.
Because Castillo isn't on the roster to begin with. If Castillo was already on the 40-man roster, I don't think there's any question that he'd be up for the last month, redundancy or not. But considering he's not on the 40-man roster and it would take an additional move to put him there (not to mention the potential added cost), it's not worth it for the marginal at best upgrade.Too much focus on the play and not on the point that relates to the thread, which is, why is Castillo redundant with Young with expanded rosters.
Unless Benintendi has a setback in his recovery, in which case the Sox will still need some combination of Holt and Young to play LF for the entirety of the game.Don't need Holaday, ph's to cover for him, and the expense is negligible for Sept if winning a division is the goal. He would not be needed when Benintendi returns, and can be removed from the 40 man again.
Holt bobbled a ball off the wall last night. He didn't not get to it because of range. He was in the right position to get the ball back into the infield quickly. The arm would have had nothing to do with it. He just flat out dropped the ball. It has absolutely nothing to do with Castillo or Young or Holt on that specific play.Redundant, huh?
Edit: referring to today's game.
Are you arguing that it's pointless to have a differing opinion on anything the Red Sox do since they always know best? Why are we here?Holt bobbled a ball off the wall last night. He didn't not get to it because of range, he was in the right position to get the ball back into the infield quickly. He just dropped the ball. It has absolutely nothing to do with Castillo or Young or Holt on that specific play.
The fact that management doesn't believe it's worthwhile leads me to believe they know a little bit more about their OF defensive alignment than the rest of us.
This is only about a September call up, no playoff roster. This is all about expanded rosters and Farrell's claim he is redundant with Young.
And he did play LF quite well last year. I'm advocating defense, nothing else.
Holt has 0.0 fWAR this year. He has been below average defensively in LF this year. Playing Castillo over him is not some agonizing decision. It's also not crazy to think he's a better option than Young vs. RHP because of a huge increase in defensive value. Benintendi should be the every day LF when he's back, but before then, Castillo is a good option.Youre advocating putting in a defensive replacement in a tie game on the road. You are advocating doing something that no actual baseball manager would do, unless perhaps the outfielder is of Hanley Ramirez '15 proportions of suck. Or maybe Ortiz IF he had batted recently so his turn didnt come up for a few innings.
Who should they DFA to get him on the 40 man?
This is the juvenile type of argument for which posters were tarred and featheredAre you arguing that it's pointless to have a differing opinion on anything the Red Sox do since they always know best?
I came for the waters. I have no idea why you're here.Why are we here?
Castillo was DFAed to get his salary off of the luxury tax calculation .. Ala Allen Craig.No dog in the Castillo call-up fight, but looking at the40-man roster and wondering why Williams Jerez and Brian Johnson are on it and Castillo isn't? Holaday seems redundant now too. Only four OFs on the 40-man: Betts, JBJ, Holt and Young. That seems thin for September. I suppose Shaw can play LF, but that seems sub-optimal.
Apparently that can be said 1,000 times and some people still don't get it.Castillo was DFAed to get his salary off of the luxury tax calculation .. Ala Allen Craig.
Johnson hasn't been very good this year, but he's deserving of a spot on the 40. Had he not had his injury setback and the being held at gunpoint incident, Johnson probably would've made 7 or 8 starts for the Sox this year. He has/had value. Jerez is just occupying a spot until they need to protect someone else.No dog in the Castillo call-up fight, but looking at the40-man roster and wondering why Williams Jerez and Brian Johnson are on it and Castillo isn't? Holaday seems redundant now too. Only four OFs on the 40-man: Betts, JBJ, Holt and Young. That seems thin for September. I suppose Shaw can play LF, but that seems sub-optimal.
Last I checked, Benintendi is on the 40-man even if he's on the DL. As is Brentz. Marco Hernandez could be called upon to play a few innings in the OF if needed...he's got about as much professional experience there as Shaw, and is seemingly a bit more athletic as well. They're not that thin in the OF, and barring injuries, they don't need to be all that much deeper right now.No dog in the Castillo call-up fight, but looking at the40-man roster and wondering why Williams Jerez and Brian Johnson are on it and Castillo isn't? Holaday seems redundant now too. Only four OFs on the 40-man: Betts, JBJ, Holt and Young. That seems thin for September. I suppose Shaw can play LF, but that seems sub-optimal.
You're entitled to your opinion, but your arguments aren't convincing to me.Are you arguing that it's pointless to have a differing opinion on anything the Red Sox do since they always know best? Why are we here?
They obviously know more than we do in ways that we probably don't know we don't know. Working that into your arguments helps them. It might be a buzzkill but ignoring that--while rampant--will always be a flaw.Are you arguing that it's pointless to have a differing opinion on anything the Red Sox do since they always know best? Why are we here?
If Rusnay Castillo were in another organization, would you trade Jerez to get him to Boston?Other names were mentioned, but Jerez seems a likely candidate too.
Also, not going to make a very strong case for Castillo since he isn't on the 40 man, but he did slash .301/.337/.403 in the 2nd half. 186 PA. Most of that was in August though where he slashed .351/.402/.495. He walked 9 times in 106 PA in August, and walked 15 times in the previous 309 PA. He was also 9/12 in SB, but all 3 CS were in August so meh.
He'd make a perfectly fine 4th OF on most teams.
If Castillo was getting paid the league minimum? Yeah, if I needed OF depth. If he's getting paid $13mil? No. If I'm an MLB team and the redsox release Rusney for some reason, I'd might sign him as a FA to be my 4th OF. The only reason Rusney isn't in the majors is his contract.If Rusnay Castillo were in another organization, would you trade Jerez to get him to Boston?
I'm not even sure I'd waive Haladay to make room for him. Haladay might actually be an improvement for the Indians if they got the claim, and I don't want to help them.
Castillo's August spike in BABIP is at least promising to me. If it reflects an adjustment he's trying to make and he works hard in the offseason on it--hope he plays in PR this winter--then he can come into spring training and try to win a job again. Or at least make another major league team willing to pay some of his salary.
I wasn't the one who said the Red Sox know better than we do in reply to the argument that Castillo would be a good OF option right now. That's the same thing as saying we don't deserve to have our own opinion and thus, there is nothing to discuss.This is the juvenile type of argument for which posters were tarred and feathered
I came for the waters. I have no idea why you're here.
It's not the same thing. You're entitled to your opinion, you've aired it out here, and it appears that almost no one, the Red Sox (who have much, much more information than you on the subject) included, agrees.I wasn't the one who said the Red Sox know better than we do in reply to the argument that Castillo would be a good OF option right now. That's the same thing as saying we don't deserve to have our own opinion and thus, there is nothing to discuss.
Grimshaw said: "The fact that management doesn't believe it's worthwhile leads me to believe they know a little bit more about their OF defensive alignment than the rest of us."I wasn't the one who said the Red Sox know better than we do in reply to the argument that Castillo would be a good OF option right now. That's the same thing as saying we don't deserve to have our own opinion and thus, there is nothing to discuss.
It can just as easily be read as the metrics you are pointing to are insufficient, unconvincing and are heavily overshadowed by the amount of information the Red Sox had when they decided not to add him to the 40 man when rosters expanded, so either up your game by expanding your argument or stop repeating yourself and hoping people who are thus far unconvinced will suddenly change their minds.I wasn't the one who said the Red Sox know better than we do in reply to the argument that Castillo would be a good OF option right now. That's the same thing as saying we don't deserve to have our own opinion and thus, there is nothing to discuss.
Are you Jerry Casale's twin brother?Wow, this place sure has consensus opinion decided upon. I won't rock the boat.
So why can't you use that same reasoning for every single decision that the Red Sox make? They know more than us about everything. When is that reasoning sound and when isn't it?Grimshaw said: "The fact that management doesn't believe it's worthwhile leads me to believe they know a little bit more about their OF defensive alignment than the rest of us."
That's a completely accurate statement.
You replied: "Are you arguing that it's pointless to have a differing opinion on anything the Red Sox do since they always know best?"
Which is juvenile. Grimshaw wasn't saying that at all. We disagree with what the team does all the time. But we also have to acknowledge that the team knows more about its players than we do.
Offering your opinion is fine, its what we all do. It just so happens no one agrees, partly because it isn't well argued and doesn't really make much practical sense. Getting emo about a very obvious fact--that the Red Sox have better proprietary information about the OF defense of Castillo, Holt, Young and the relative value of the move you're suggesting--is odd, because it is obviously true and in no way an impediment to making a case in a discussion about baseball.Wow, this place sure has consensus opinion decided upon. I won't rock the boat by being so preposterous.
The eighth inning, apparently.Now you have 4 catchers and you still don't pinch hit for Holiday when you're trailing in the ballgame? What the fuck are you waiting for.
Is he that much better than Ryan Lamarre that the Red Sox would call him up if their contracts were reversed? Lamarre's small sample CF advance defends is similar to Castillo's and he out hit him by a significant margin.If Castillo was getting paid the league minimum? Yeah, if I needed OF depth. If he's getting paid $13mil? No. If I'm an MLB team and the redsox release Rusney for some reason, I'd might sign him as a FA to be my 4th OF. The only reason Rusney isn't in the majors is his contract.