Jesus. It wasn't a swastika or a dead baby seal shirt. People need to learn to lighten the fuck up.
Jimbodandy said:Jesus. It wasn't a swastika or a dead baby seal shirt. People need to learn to lighten the fuck up.
The Allented Mr Ripley said:
Didn't you send a sternly worded letter to Johnny Damon for the unforgivable sin of accepting a higher offer than what the Red Sox presented?
Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:Not sure where to post this:
seahawks.com official homepage, right sidebar with stories/headline , top item:
Chris Matthews went from practice squad receiver to Super Bowl hero
Obligatory: huh.....?
I don't see the problem with saying this. He was a sports hero even in a close loss. He was a huge part of their offense.Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:Not sure where to post this:
seahawks.com official homepage, right sidebar with stories/headline , top item: Chris Matthews went from practice squad receiver to Super Bowl hero
Obligatory: huh.....?
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Wait, you actually did this?
The Pats used a silent count the entire game until Brady drew the encroachment at the end of the game. Even if they didn't need to use it, the threat alone was enough to make the Patriots prepare differently.TheoShmeo said:I'd be interested in the opinions of other people who were at the game on following.
My sense was that while the Seahawks fans clearly outnumbered Pats fans at the game, that the noise they were making had zero effect. Meaning that it was never so loud as to provide any obstacle to the Patriots while on offense. Whether having only, say, 60% of the Stadium as Seattle fans, or being in a stadium that is not configured like the one in Seattle, the "12" were not a factor in the way home fans often are -- by being so loud as to disrupt the other team. Now admittedly I was sitting way upstairs so maybe I was too far away to know...but noise seemed like a nothing issue to me on Sunday night.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:The Pats used a silent count the entire game until Brady drew the encroachment at the end of the game. Even if they didn't need to use it, the threat alone was enough to make the Patriots prepare differently.
Chuck Z said:If I ever win anything, the shirt I wear is going to say, "The guy I beat was really fucking good."
But my boxers will say, "And I'm fucking better."
TheoShmeo said:I don't think anyone would argue that home fans contribute meaningfully to their team's success. Little things like having better players clearly matter infinitely more.
That said, I think when it's extraordinarily loud in a building, that it can make it harder for a visiting offense to run its offense. We've all seen false starts, teams having to repeat play calls and other impacts based on noise. I haven't been to many road games when it was all that noticeable but I have been to some. The Pats-Ravens game in 2007 when Sexy Rexy's time-out bailed out the Pats was one such game, as I recall the Pats being hurried or otherwise impacted -- at least seemingly -- by the noise on more than one occasion.
I'm an extra medium.soxfan121 said:I know what someone's getting for Kwanza next year.
I forget where I heard/read it, but Brady mentioned it in one of the million interviews. Something about usually going on 2, but knowing the situation - and using the silent count all game - he opted for going on three.There is no Rev said:
That's fucking hilarious. How has this not been more widely pointed out?
There is no Rev said:
That's fucking hilarious. How has this not been more widely pointed out?
TheoShmeo said:Dogman2, nice to see you getting it wrong once again.
No treason. These were just shirts we didn't need (wearing the shirt of a current Yankee wasn't in the cards) and the chance to tweak Damon given how bummed out my wife and kids were.
That it got a reaction from Damon was the noteworthy and surprising part, and the reason why I shared the story. I was pretty stunned when his guy called me and doubly stunned at how much effort he put into stating Johnny's case...detailed description of the wooing process, how much he didn't want Sox fans to be upset, etc.
Of course it is not a surprise when athletes leave for more money. It happens all the time. It happened with Papelbon. And Jon Lester. And many other guys. It may happen again with Revis. None of that is treason.
What made Damon different, obviously, was that he had said rather specifically in his book that he would not do that, and yeah, that it was the Yankees of all teams.
Et tu, Marciano? Actually, that was pretty damned funny.
They stayed with the silent count. But they went with 3 head bobs from Stork rather than 2 for the first time all game.Kenny F'ing Powers said:I forget where I heard/read it, but Brady mentioned it in one of the million interviews. Something about usually going on 2, but knowing the situation - and using the silent count all game - he opted for going on three.
Its like this team is very well coached and executes perfectly, or something.
Three Head Bobs From Stork is either a great name for a punk band or someone's secret fantasy.The Four Peters said:They stayed with the silent count. But they went with 3 head bobs from Stork rather than 2 for the first time all game.
It's even better than the hard count in my eyes. It ensures none of the Pats will jump and almost guarantees they will.
Looking at my DVR copy (which will remain until the DVR is obsolete or the house burns down) on the encroachment play, it looks like Bennett is leaning forward trying to time it. Brady twitches his left hand appears to tap Stork on the left leg and that's when Bennett cheats forward. No way Bennett doesn't try that at any rate.Ralphwiggum said:I thought I had read that even on the encroachment they still went with the silent count. They had typically snapped the ball after two Stork head-bobs, on that play he looked back down an extra time. I have read so much stuff about this game that I easily could be wrong, though.
As I was a guest of some Seattle folks I was right in the middle of Seahawk fans. Myself and the woman in front of me (both of us with Bruschi jerseys) were the only Pats fans that I really saw until the whole section ran for the exits after the Butler pick. It was very loud but I thought it was kind of cool to hear the 12's because you could tell it was having no impact on Brady as he drove the team down the field, so they kept ratcheting it up. On the go ahead drive they started to turn on each other: louder!! scream louder!!! and admonishing anyone who wasn't freaking out.TheoShmeo said:I'd be interested in the opinions of other people who were at the game on following.
My sense was that while the Seahawks fans clearly outnumbered Pats fans at the game, that the noise they were making had zero effect. Meaning that it was never so loud as to provide any obstacle to the Patriots while on offense. Whether having only, say, 60% of the Stadium as Seattle fans, or being in a stadium that is not configured like the one in Seattle, the "12" were not a factor in the way home fans often are -- by being so loud as to disrupt the other team. Now admittedly I was sitting way upstairs so maybe I was too far away to know...but noise seemed like a nothing issue to me on Sunday night.
Ah, there you go. I was almost right. Which is almost as good as being right.The Four Peters said:They stayed with the silent count. But they went with 3 head bobs from Stork rather than 2 for the first time all game.
It's even better than the hard count in my eyes. It ensures none of the Pats will jump and almost guarantees they will.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:I forget where I heard/read it, but Brady mentioned it in one of the million interviews. Something about usually going on 2, but knowing the situation - and using the silent count all game - he opted for going on three.
Its like this team is very well coached and executes perfectly, or something.
The Four Peters said:They stayed with the silent count. But they went with 3 head bobs from Stork rather than 2 for the first time all game.
It's even better than the hard count in my eyes. It ensures none of the Pats will jump and almost guarantees they will.
One basketball team did so twice...pappymojo said:Has any other professional sports team in America retired a number that didn't correlate directly to an actual player?
Sure, but lots of NBA teams have retired numbers for coaches and owners.K.C.R.E.A.M. said:One basketball team did so twice...
I don't recall that PM but if I used that word, it was meant as shorthand. My views on Damon are as described above.Dogman2 said:
Ok. Damon jerseys are not the same as Damon shirts. Mea culpa.
I do have a PM from you calling it treason though.
After all of your 'inside source info' and this Damon story, it's funny reading you calling out people as wrong.
CaptainLaddie said:Seattle's "12th man" is supposed to have a major effect on the game, right? Causing problems with pre-snap offensive calls?
In that opening half, the Giants' slanting and scheming defense throttled the Seahawks' top-ranked offense. New York followed Dallas' successful script of last month by shoving as many as nine defenders close to the line of scrimmage against NFL rushing leader Shaun Alexander, daring Seattle to win through the air.
But New York led only 10-7 at that point, largely because of 11 penalties. The Giants ended with 16 flags for 114 yards, their most in 56 years. That included an amazing 11 flags for false starts -- five against left tackle Luke Petitgout and three against left guard David Diehl.
Diehl said the raucous crowd at sold-out Qwest Field made him do it.
"This is the loudest it's been [on the road]," Diehl said.
Pxer said:You should see them organize a soccer game.
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:Once I get over some of the "12" bullshit in the aftermath of this game, I think there aren't too many not-Patriots AFC teams I could see myself rooting for over the Seahawks in a Super Bowl.