Damn, and I was really thinking of everything his D could mean for the rest of the infield, not to mention needing the RH bat.I have updated the thread title with the latest development.
NeverEnding Story seems fitting.I have updated the thread title with the latest development.
Although in his case NeverStarting Story might be better.NeverEnding Story seems fitting.
Is it possible its an interior fracture, not to the rim? If so, is this a better form of fracture? Also, it reads as if this means there may not have been a dislocation, but rather the bone being jamned into the socket."Concern about bone structure" is not what you want to hear after a shoulder subluxation/dislocation. If its too much bone and too displaced it's not going to heal correctly so a typical fracture healing timeline doesn't apply.
These people often get fractures of their anterior glenoid rim (the tee portion of the "golf ball on a tee" analogy). Labral tears are not good, but when there is also a fracture of the underlying bone, things are even less stable. Some people use 20% as a gauge for how much bone loss requires surgery, though in elite athletes they will probably do surgery for less bone loss than that since they require extreme motion.
El Attrache is the surgeon for a ton of athletes in LA but also from all over the country. DeShaun Watson had a similar injury requiring surgery from him recently.
If people like pictures, can look up "Bony Bankart" "Osseous Bankart" or "Bankart fracture" to see what I mean. I presume that's what theyre getting at in the recent tweet. They also get "Hill-Sachs" fractures of the humeral head but these tend to be less important.
This website also has some stuff.
https://radiologyassistant.nl/musculoskeletal/shoulder/instability#bankart-and-variants
Glenoid Fossa Fractures
https://www.verywellhealth.com/glenoid-fractures-2549790The glenoid fossa is the center portion of the socket. Glenoid fossa fractures are much less common and associated with blunt force applied directly to the shoulder joint, such as:
There is little data on the ideal treatment of glenoid fossa fractures because they are so rare. Some studies suggest that less than 0.1% of shoulder fractures involve the glenoid fossa.1
- Being struck on the shoulder at high velocity
- Ramming your shoulder against a wall or door
- Falling directly on the outside of your shoulder during a tackle
With that said, athletes and other physically active people will likely benefit from surgery to avoid any restrictions in the range of motion of their affected shoulder.
I would love to dump his contract and trade him to a contender. This injury goes a long way towards a large sunk cost.So maybe a quick rehab in Florida in October and back for the World Series?
Assuming?3/$72.5 left on his contract after this year assuming he doesn't opt out after next season.
Not now. I'd guess his value is close to zero. Chris Sale proved that if a guy is healthy at the moment, there will be a market for his services. Suck it up, let him rehab, and see where he (and Mayer) stand next April.I would love to dump his contract and trade him to a contender. This injury goes a long way towards a large sunk cost.
I think it's prudent to simply assume he'll not be suiting up in a Boston uniform again. 3 years is an eternity in baseball but frankly given the level of depth and planning the Sox have needed to cover for his injuries over the past 3 years, it might be best to assume the sunk cost.Beyond the fact that this absolutely sucks for the 2024 season, that type of injury is harsh enough where there is definitely a possibility you are looking at 3 years of a complete sunk cost in 2025, 2026, 2027.
Let us pray for Marcello Mayer.
They aren’t going to do that, nor should they. That doesn’t mean the are going to pencil him in for 162 games either.I think it's prudent to simply assume he'll not be suiting up in a Boston uniform again. 3 years is an eternity in baseball but frankly given the level of depth and planning the Sox have needed to cover for his injuries over the past 3 years, it might be best to assume the sunk cost.
I don't know; but it's beyond an assumption that he won't opt outIsn’t it just two years, through 2026?
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/boston-red-sox/trevor-story-18377/I don't know; but it's beyond an assumption that he won't opt out
For the rehab update thread, perhaps?How 'bout "EverMending Story"?
When we get an update after his surgery, I'll close this thread and we can start another with that title.For the rehab update thread, perhaps?
Usually a subluxation/dislocation will fracture the anteroinferior rim, sometimes it's more anterior, sometimes more inferior. It all counts as the rim.Is it possible its an interior fracture, not to the rim? If so, is this a better form of fracture? Also, it reads as if this means there may not have been a dislocation, but rather the bone being jamned into the socket.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/glenoid-fractures-2549790
Usually a subluxation/dislocation will fracture the anteroinferior rim, sometimes it's more anterior, sometimes more inferior. It all counts as the rim.
Sounds like they already confirmed the "subluxation" on twitter right? That would be the most common cause of a glenoid fracture. Occasionally you can just fracture more centrally from the humeral head being jammed into the socked.
Regardless, if it needs surgery he's out for the year.
Breslow subsequently met with the press and uttered "subluxation" about a dozen times.The Boston Red Sox today placed shortstop Trevor Story on the 10-Day Injured List with a left shoulder dislocation. To fill Story’s spot on the active roster, the club recalled infielder David Hamilton from Triple-A Worcester.
That’s a proper thread title indeed: I look forward to the announcement that the surgery went well.When we get an update after his surgery, I'll close this thread and we can start another with that title.
Well he had bad inflammation going in, a big reason why there was talk about moving him to second. He was a risky signing to begin with, in a deep SS class. They however waited till the last second when he was the only one left.Just an unbelievably poor signing. On par with the Chris Sale extension.
Not anyone's fault, but it just went horribly awry.
Feels like we could have just extended Xander. I know he's at 2B now, but only because Kim is much better at SS.Well he had bad inflammation going in, a big reason why there was talk about moving him to second. He was a risky signing to begin with, in a deep SS class. They however waited till the last second when he was the only one left.
11 years, $280 million?Feels like we could have just extended Xander. I know he's at 2B now, but only because Kim is much better at SS.
So true. If they had only signed Javer Baez to 6 years.Well he had bad inflammation going in, a big reason why there was talk about moving him to second. He was a risky signing to begin with, in a deep SS class. They however waited till the last second when he was the only one left.
That deal wasn't on the table when they signed Story.11 years, $280 million?
Well we can probably assume that option is not getting picked up and the buyout will be paid.It looks like his deal is through 2027, and we have a $25 mil option for 2028 with a $5 mil buyout.
Story was signed before X left, they played together in 2022 with X at shortstop and Story at 2B. I do agree with you in that Story was signed with an eye to letting X walk after 2022 and moving Story over to SS. Obviously that turned out to be a catastrophic miscalculation if only on-field results are examined.Story looking to be one of the worst free agent signings ever in Red Sox history. Imo i think Sandoval even produced more for this team during his time here then Story has, i'm not saying it is all Story's fault but it is what it is at this point, he has been absolutely terrible here. The worst part of it all is it felt like his signing was just almost forced after the disaster in losing Xander.
Well. There were already red flags at the time of the signing. Or yellow ones at least. There was some evidence of injured throwing arm issues, and his offense dropped off significantly in the season before they signed him. There was a reason he was the last standing of that strong FA shortstop class. And Sale was injured when the Sox extended him. Both could be considered bad signings at the time they were made.Just an unbelievably poor signing. On par with the Chris Sale extension.
Not anyone's fault, but it just went horribly awry.