NYY has gone from solid to top 3 farm system by trading 2 relief pitchers. Cashman's killing it.
On the other hand, Chapman and Miller were signed for postseason reasons and now they're both gone because the team hasn't done anything in the postseason. So that's a huge fail on Cashman's part.NYY has gone from solid to top 3 farm system by trading 2 relief pitchers. Cashman's killing it.
But at the same time, he also obtained Chapman for next to nothing and turned that pittance into some pretty nice prospectsOn the other hand, Chapman and Miller were signed for postseason reasons and now they're both gone because the team hasn't done anything in the postseason. So that's a huge fail on Cashman's part.
How New York of youChapman was primarily traded for as an arbitrage play, which is exactly what ended up happening. Buy low, sell high.
The new market inefficiency!It's amazing what you can accomplish with little more than the moral fiber to buy low on a guy with domestic abuse issues.
It makes me sick they were able to parlay Chapman into those young players from the Cubs (and get Warren back to boot). And to top it off, the Cubs only have Chapman for 2-3 months. There is an excellent chance he will be back in the Bronx next season. That's baseball I guess. What can you do. Unless the Cubs win the WS, Theo is going to look like a schmuck for making that trade.It's amazing what you can accomplish with little more than the moral fiber to buy low on a guy with domestic abuse issues.
Why will Theo look like a schmuck? Torres is the big prize in that deal, and he was blocked. There is literally nowhere for him to play any time soon in Chicago. Sheffield, Heller and Feyereisen are all nice pieces, but they're all lotto tickets. The Cubs are a favorite for the World Series this year. Their one weakness is the pen. This is a prime example of relative value. The Cubs gave up expendable chips to make sure the Yankees didn't take Chapman right up to the deadline to allow another team to sneak in and steal the deal away.It makes me sick they were able to parlay Chapman into those young players from the Cubs (and get Warren back to boot). And to top it off, the Cubs only have Chapman for 2-3 months. There is an excellent chance he will be back in the Bronx next season. That's baseball I guess. What can you do. Unless the Cubs win the WS, Theo is going to look like a schmuck for making that trade.
The Indians gave up a lot, but at least Miller will be there for several years at reasonable money.
He looks like a bigger schmuck if he doesn't make this deal and the one weakness on this team costs them the chance at a world championship. In THIS situation, this is where Torres' biggest value to the Cubs lies. I also don't think Chapman is a rental, I have to believe that Theo will make every effort to sign him and if the money's close, Chapman's not going to find a better situation as far as winning goes. The everyday lineup is stacked for years to come. Where does Torres fit in? Also remember that they have Schwarber coming back as well.It makes me sick they were able to parlay Chapman into those young players from the Cubs (and get Warren back to boot). And to top it off, the Cubs only have Chapman for 2-3 months. There is an excellent chance he will be back in the Bronx next season. That's baseball I guess. What can you do. Unless the Cubs win the WS, Theo is going to look like a schmuck for making that trade.
The Indians gave up a lot, but at least Miller will be there for several years at reasonable money.
If they don't want to be playing to empty seats in Sept they have to start playing kids.Only possible source of excitement in the Bronx.NYY has gone from solid to top 3 farm system by trading 2 relief pitchers. Cashman's killing it.
deal was scuttled and redone.Bruce to Mets for Nimmo and two lower prospects
It's hard for AL fans to forget what Melancon did in both of his AL stints, first coming up with NY (although they didn't give him much of a chance) and then in 2012 with Boston when he had a 6.20 ERA. Obviously he's been dominant in PIT for almost four seasons since and maybe he'll continue to be, but if I were a Nats fan, I'd feel way more comfortable with Miller coming in to protect postseason leads than Melancon.f I'm the Indians GM, I'm not making that trade with the Yankees. Instead, I'm calling the Pirates and making an offer for Melancon and then I'll reevaluate the bullpen in the off-season.
True, and I would rather have Miller than Melancon, but. . . .not at the cost of the prospects that the Indians gave up. Even though I would rather have Miller (or Chapman for that matter), I'm still feeling good about Melancon based on some of the changes he has made since his stint with the Red Sox: greater reliance on the cutter.It's hard for AL fans to forget what Melancon did in both of his AL stints, first coming up with NY (although they didn't give him much of a chance) and then in 2012 with Boston when he had a 6.20 ERA. Obviously he's been dominant in PIT for almost four seasons since and maybe he'll continue to be, but if I were a Nats fan, I'd feel way more comfortable with Miller coming in to protect postseason leads than Melancon.
A more thorough rebuttal on this from Ken Rosenthal today:AJ Preller is the best GM in baseball. Period.
Funny, I would have categorized that as a bargain for the A's since Zep has been on and off the scrap heap for years. And has a really ugly walk rate this year. And hasn't exactly been vintage Javy Lopez against LHBs this year either (226/400/274)Not going to start a new thread for waiver trades, but a lefty reliever with a 3.62 FIP traded for the 17th-ranked prospect in the Nationals organizations seems like an absolute bargain for Washington.
Leads the majors with RISP!Coco Crisp has been traded to the Cleveland Indians by the A’s, with an official announcement about the deal’s particulars due Wednesday.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/athletics/2016/08/30/13780/
Yep. Still something stupider on this board than asking if callups are eligible for post season playDid any live arm pass through waivers? And can dumbrowski acquire him without reading a top 15 prospect?
Can they still trade for a guy and him be eligible for the postseason? How's that?Yep. Still something stupider on this board than asking if callups are eligible for post season play
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 10m10 minutes agoAJ Preller is the best GM in baseball. Period.
sounds like Padres may be better off firing him...perhaps Mike Dee reunites with Cherington over there?This is still my favorite statement of SoSH 2016, sorry for bumping it again:
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 10m10 minutes ago
MLB announces 30-day suspension for #Padres’ Preller without pay. Related to Pomeranz trade with #RedSox.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago
This is Preller’s second suspension by MLB. First was for one month in late 2000s when he was head of #Rangers’ international operations.
More info on what SD/Preller did to deserve this:
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17554327/san-diego-padres-face-discipline-hiding-players-medical-information-mlb-database