I’m very curious what you actually expect to happen - do you honestly believe that any coach, let alone BB would actually try to lose? What does that look like to you? What do you expect them to do?
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Dickens, who wanted to be an actor, was a great admirer of Shakespeare. He used overt Shakespearean antithesis to open “A Tale of Two Cities.” This, an execrable victory, honors that spirit of exultant grief, cold fire, hot ice and finally; an addled Chad Ryland splitting the uprights from distance with the virtually meaningless present pitted against the possibly momentous future. There may be an abstinence Heaven but there’s definitely a fucking hell. I mean… Fucking hell!
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No. It’s all emotional reaction to the 1% chance at drafting the next Tom Brady.
The only thing to root for in my current Boston sports (Sox and Pats) are the Pats draft pick. The Sox are boring and stuck in “full throttle”, the Pats are terrible. Might as well have SOMETHING - but we don’t even get that.
That would be such a sight to see.
The New England Patriots trade the number 3 pick for the 199st pick.
I was assured that the Patriots always lose in Denver. Many times in this thread, in fact.
Fuck me.
The 0-4 Patriots also won in Denver in 2000 for the first win of the BB era.
I’m not sure which was more improbable.
Ugh.
Merry Christmas SoSH.
This is where I’m at. Zappe belongs. That TD to Gesicki was a thing of beauty. He can play. He also seems to compete hard and he’s scrappy AF.
Do I want him as QB1 in 2024? Probably not. But lets’s watch these final two games.
Trying to chase down a thought there. Too much mind-numbing football today — caused a reactionary upwelling of pedantry.
When the offensive line gets him killed on Sundays, he bounces back fast and is ready to go for Wednesday's practice.
I think the whole “Don’t be a spoiled fan base” thing may have knocked the sense out of people. Like, yeah, don’t be whiny and annoying and all, but it’s still OK to not want to be poor.
Besides the Mannings and a relocated Matthew Stanford, the highest drafted QB to win a Super Bowl from 2000 on has been Trent Dilfer at 6, from “won the Super Bowl despite having Dilfer at QB“ fame.
I would have preferred to see the Pats lose out to get the highest picks possible in each round, but they have been a very good defensive team, despite losing their best rusher and best corner. If it wasn’t for monumentally stupid plays on offense, shaky special teams, and uncharacteristically bad coaching, they could easily be in the playoff hunt.
I don’t think Zappe is the guy, but he has produced wins. I would like to see the Pats select an RPO quarterback who can threaten a defense with both his arm and his legs.
I would have preferred to see the Pats lose out to get the highest picks possible in each round, but they have been a very good defensive team, despite losing their best rusher and best corner. If it wasn’t for monumentally stupid plays on offense, shaky special teams, and uncharacteristically bad coaching, they could easily be in the playoff hunt.
I don’t think Zappe is the guy, but he has produced wins. I would like to see the Pats select an RPO quarterback who can threaten a defense with both his arm and his legs.
Super small sample size and even without the distortion of one Brady, Tom, though, yeah? Plus the game is designed to have a certain variability—look at the shape of the damn ball (even properly inflated).
What about playing, win or lose, in conference championship games? What do the draft position stats on that look like?
If you look at QB who went to many super bowls pre-2000
Montana pick 82
Kelly pick 14
Staubach pick 129
Tarkenton pick 29
But yeah, Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, (and Peyton) all went 1 (and Big Ben went 11)
Montana pick 82
Kelly pick 14
Staubach pick 129
Tarkenton pick 29
But yeah, Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, (and Peyton) all went 1 (and Big Ben went 11)
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I was at a Christmas Eve open house last night at my Sisters house and we were watching the game.
I just can't bring myself to root for this team to lose, it's not in me.
Beating those assholes in Denver and ending they playoff hopes was a nice early Christmas gift even if was a big stocking full of coal , that team has tortured me for decades.
I've been a fan since I was 7 years old back in 1968, through thick and thin (and A LOT of thin from 1968 through 2001), they have always been my team since the day my Dad took me to my first game vs the Oilers in 1968 at Fenway park.
And they always will be win or lose.
They bring me joy, that's all that matters.
Merry Christmas everyone, enjoy your time with your families, no one is promised a tomorrow.
I just can't bring myself to root for this team to lose, it's not in me.
Beating those assholes in Denver and ending they playoff hopes was a nice early Christmas gift even if was a big stocking full of coal , that team has tortured me for decades.
I've been a fan since I was 7 years old back in 1968, through thick and thin (and A LOT of thin from 1968 through 2001), they have always been my team since the day my Dad took me to my first game vs the Oilers in 1968 at Fenway park.
And they always will be win or lose.
They bring me joy, that's all that matters.
Merry Christmas everyone, enjoy your time with your families, no one is promised a tomorrow.
how competitive would the Texans be without Stroud, Jags without Lawrence or Bengals without Burrow?
the whole “Allen, Mahomes etc weren’t first overall picks or the first QB taken therefore it’s better to take a non-QB” thing makes no sense
no one is saying you can’t find a QB after the top 2-3 picks. No one is saying the other QB’s drafted surely won’t succeed. But that’s like saying “Brady was a 6th, so clearly day 3 QB’s can win”. Sure, the rare exception can but the hit rate is tiny. It would take extraordinary luck or a huge sample to find a good 6th round QB.
you need a franchise QB to win in the NFL these days. And there’s a much higher hit rate on QB prospects the higher up you go in the draft. Brock Purdy and Brady are great stories because of how rare they are.
The idea that Maye or Daniels is less likely to be a transformative acquisition than Jared Verse, Joe Alt or whomever is just wrong. Every draft pick comes with large bust potential but if you hit on your QB, the upside vastly outweighs any other position.
the talent difference between teams 4-24 in this league is thin except at the QB (and perhaps WR now). Look at how badly some of these otherwise tough competitive teams look without their franchise guy.
Harrison very well could be the best prospect in the draft but there’s a chance he’s around at 4 and without a QB his value is pretty limited.
Calvin Johnson was incredible and the only other WR prospect on the same level but he hardly moved the needle for the Lions.
It’s an idiom from two thousand years ago.
Do you own a calendar?
(In fairness, probably most people have never noticed this. It’s a heckuva bar bet.)
Staubach was only that low because teams were afraid of his Naval obligations.
Man, if it wasn’t bad enough for the doomsayers that Zappe is making our draft pick worse, now we have this:
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