Nothing a hobbled Dan Carpenter couldn't knock through the uprightsIt would have been a 60 yarder.
Nothing a hobbled Dan Carpenter couldn't knock through the uprightsIt would have been a 60 yarder.
I think Taylor would really be excellent with better coaching.Tyrod Taylor, in his sixth year in the league, still yet to throw for 300 yards in a game in his second year as a starter in a pass happy league, is a "budding star" according to Sean McDonough.
This was brutal. I'll take Shady and 10 yards to the nearest defender any day. Worst case he gets to like the 5 and you can open up the playbook on 4th down without worrying about the clock. Best case he shuffles off his mortal coil and phase shifts into the endzone.it looked like he was just making a play on the ball and woods knew it was uncatchable. couple other missed calls at the end there though, between the late hit and the near side guy getting mugged on the 4th down play.
i thought for sure taylor was throwing it to shady on 3rd when they split him out.
And with some real receivers. Watkins is always hurt, Woods played great tonight but is more of a WR3, Goodwin is Tony Simmons 2.0, and the rest aren't worth mentioning. I feel like McCoy isn't used in the passing game nearly enough.I think Taylor would really be excellent with better coaching.
I'm not sure Taylor's weapons are that much worse than, say, some of the teams Russell Wilson has had, and he has a somewhat comparable skill set (more accurate though). McCoy, Clay, Hopkins and Woods is probably in the same neighborhood as Lynch, Willson, Baldwin and Kearse when all are healthy.And with some real receivers. Watkins is always hurt, Woods played great tonight but is more of a WR3, Goodwin is Tony Simmons 2.0, and the rest aren't worth mentioning. I feel like McCoy isn't used in the passing game nearly enough.
Taylor was out of the pocket - so it is a 100% legal hit
SB NationVerified account@SBNationReally? IIRC, Taylor stepped up into the pocket before making his pass attempt on that play.
You can contact a player with the QB out of the pocket but you can't tackle them, it falls under defensive holding:Taylor was out of the pocket - so it is a 100% legal hit
ARTICLE 6. DEFENSIVE HOLDING
It is a foul for defensive holding if:
- a defensive player tackles or holds any opponent other than a runner, except as permitted in Article 5.
In that case, forget I said anything.Is pushing a WR to the ground... i.e. leveling him, considered tackling? We need the rule explaining what constitutes tackling.
In today’s NFL, quarterbacks routinely look to leave the pocket. This typically stresses the defense because it forces the secondary to cover for longer, but it is often forgotten that once a quarterback leaves the pocket defensive backs can become as physical as they like with the receivers they are covering. As soon as the opposing quarterback leaves the pocket against the Seahawks, Sherman is always looking to knock his assignment to the ground.
This may seem like a cheap move to the uninformed, but it is the smartest way to stop receivers from making big plays against you. The quickness of thought to recognize the scenario and his understanding of the rules is something that not every player possesses, even at this level.
Right, the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect. As in, you still can't tackle or hold a receiver.
My understanding of that rule has been that once the QB is out of the pocket, it's a running play and the receivers are now potential blockers.Right, the restriction on defensive holding remains in effect. As in, you still can't tackle or hold a receiver.
I mean, why should a full two-handed shove that knocks a player to the ground only count as a tackle when he has the ball?
At the end of the day I don't really care, it would only be 5 yards and they'd still need 10 to score, plus they had already blown it in the previous possession when they were in scoring range. The real travesty is and will always be the end of the first half. I know they don't seem to call out of pocket knockdowns like that but I'm not really sure why based on what the rulebook says about holding. Of course, anything that requires parsing the language of the rulebook is folly on my part.
The failure to reset the play clock shouldn't have happened, but even worse is that it was eminently fixable. Never mind hearing from NY HQ, somebody in the crew should have prompted them to go over what had just transpired, and then a "Please reset the play clock..." announcement should have followed.I thought the NFL league offices were now in communication with the crews for these administrative type of situations? Where is the accountability of the league office here? #integrity
Looks like he got a good chunk of the ballI think he nicked the ball, so it wouldn't have been a foul at all.
Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman has been fined for what NFL senior vice president of officiating Dean Blandino said should have been an unnecessary roughness penalty during last Monday night’s victory over the Bill, but the officials who should have called the foul will reportedly avoid league discipline.
Adam Caplan of ESPN reports that neither referee Walt Anderson nor any members of his officiating crew will be disciplined for the way they handled a series of events at the end of the first half. After Sherman, who was offside, plowed into Bills kicker Dan Carpenterin a dead ball situation, officials stood over the ball to reset it while the play clock ran down.
The Bills were flagged for delay of game and missed the ensuing 54-yard field goal, but Anderson and Blandino both said that the clock should have been reset following Sherman’s offside penalty.
While the missed penalty on Sherman has generated more attention, the inattention to detail regarding the game clock may have been the bigger miss by Anderson and crew. Penalties for actions on the field do get missed by human beings and replay isn’t permitted to offer a helping hand, but the more mundane administration of things like the game or play clock have resulted in discipline in the past. Side judge Rob Vernatchi was suspended for a week after 18 seconds ran off the clock erroneously in a Chargers-Steelers game last year.
I missed it live and just the highlight on nfl.com last night. The only whistle I heard was after contact was made. Sherman made contact with the ball so unless there was a whistle I didn't hear, I would agree there shouldn't have been a penalty or fine.Honestly I think they screwed up in fining Sherman. The more I think about and see the play, the more I think the refs only screw-up was the delay of game penalty.
You are only allowed to spike the ball to stop a running clock.Explain further
A source with a team not connected to the Bills-Seahawks game, intrigued by the ruling, did a little more digging. The NFL’s Official Casebook contains a variety of “Approved Rulings” that demonstrate the application of the rules. And here’s the content of A.R. 8.87: “The game clock is stopped with six seconds left in the first half. [The quarterback] takes the snap and immediately spikes the ball into the ground to take one second off the clock so that a field-goal attempt will run out the clock.”
The approved ruling? “Half over. Intentional grounding and a 10-second runoff. A QB can only spike the ball to stop a running game clock. An attempt to take time off the clock is intentional grounding.”
While not a clear apples-to-apples comparison, since the Bills didn’t spike the ball to consume time but to consume a snap so that kicker Dan Carpenter could return to the game, the language is unmistakable: “A QB can only spike the ball to stop a running game clock.”