FWIW, seeing lots of chatter on Twitter implying a deal for Todd Frazier in the works, possibly close. Haven't come across any reliable sources yet.
I doubt that's going to last very long. But they're the Braves, so maybe they lock up Adams.Adams would take more than just a bucket of balls right now since the braves moved Freddie Freeman to third for him.
Hanley has an .800 OPS (108 OPS+) for the season and is slashing .345/.387/.621 since returning from that HBP on his knee (June 29, 62 PA). Not sure what "issues" he's having, but he's been relatively hot for the last three weeks.I know the Yankees were interested in him earlier, but maybe the Sox could make a run at Justin Bour. He may be pricier since he's cost controlled but the Marlins are in a long rebuild. It's not just 3b that needs help. Moreland is clearly less than 100% and they can really improve quite a lot at 1b. It's even more important with catcher also so weak and Hanley having his issues.
The "issues" are referring to his shoulders in combination with him hitting well below his career average. If you're satisfied with him having a hot streak to get his OPS up to .800 then fine. I'm not.Hanley has an .800 OPS (108 OPS+) for the season and is slashing .345/.387/.621 since returning from that HBP on his knee (June 29, 62 PA). Not sure what "issues" he's having, but he's been relatively hot for the last three weeks.
Except he did the same exact thing last year and that tear lasted until the end of the season. On June 11th last year, his OPS was .710. He went to finish the year hitting .298/.379/.594 in the last last 369 PA. Calling it a hot streak is stupid and unfair to Hanley and his career since his best months have always been July, August and September.The "issues" are referring to his shoulders and him hitting well below his career average. If you're satisfied with him having a hot streak to get his OPS up to .800 then fine. I'm not.
A hot streak is when you slug .621 when your career slugging is .493.Yeah, lets replace the guy and all his "issues." It's not a hot streak, the last few months were a cold streak.
edit: Not to mention the guy playing 1st base has sucked since April 17th. Moreland is hitting .232/.324/.402 in his last 293 PA and .165/.240/282 in his last 96.
Britton is likely untouchable. If Duquette were to move him, it would likely be outside of the division and the asking price would be astronomical.I want the Sox to go see what the price is for Zach Britton after these bullpen injuries. That's where the priority lies for me ahead of 3B.
Perhaps talks with the White Sox should be expanded to include David RobertsonI want the Sox to go see what the price is for Zach Britton after these bullpen injuries. That's where the priority lies for me ahead of 3B.
I think the Sox might have the pieces on the farm to pick up both Juan Nicasio from the Pirates as well as "All-Star" Pat Neshek.Britton is likely untouchable. If Duquette were to move him, it would likely be outside of the division and the asking price would be astronomical.
Ken Rosenthal just wrote that Oriole's are selling and listening on Britton, ODay.Britton is likely untouchable. If Duquette were to move him, it would likely be outside of the division and the asking price would be astronomical.
Yeah that isn't happening.I want the Sox to go see what the price is for Zach Britton after these bullpen injuries. That's where the priority lies for me ahead of 3B.
Ken Rosenthal just wrote that Oriole's are selling and listening on Britton, ODay.Britton is likely untouchable. If Duquette were to move him, it would likely be outside of the division and the asking price would be astronomical.
That's not shocking. I highly doubt the O's sell within the division. Unless we overpay.Ken Rosenthal just wrote that Oriole's are selling and listening on Britton, ODay.
Todd Frazier has a career .318 OBP and OPS+ of 111.For a while I was in the stand pat and bring up Devers eventually camp, but I am very worried that the offense has not returned from the ASB, and that we are going to look back on this series (especially if MFYs win both today) as a turning point for the worse.
I think we need to add a middle of the order bat quickly, so now I hope they get the deal done for Frazier.
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Frazier by himself won't cost much at all, I'm concerned that if they add Robertson to the deal then the prospect cost might be too much.I would really hate to give up much for Frazier, but they need offensive help
Time machine idea has legs, DDski should get on that.Todd Frazier has a career .318 OBP and OPS+ of 111.
Todd Frazier will be woefully miscast as a middle of the order bat. Farrell needs to plop Pedroia back at leadoff, and shift Mookie back to 3rd. There's your middle of the order bat.
I like the possibility of picking up Lowrie much, much more. And I don't like that possibility very much, objectively speaking. Somewhat higher on my list of preferences would be Dombrowski getting Baseball Ops to develop a functional time machine so that he can not trade Travis Shaw.
Picking nits he had a fine first day in AAA yesterday, his 2nd day in AAA today wasn't nearly as good as he went 0 for 4.Time machine idea has legs, DDski should get on that.
Lowrie at career OPS+ of 100, and OPS of .601 last 28 days vs .916 for Frazier. Why is Lowrie better?
And worth noting that Devers had himself a fine first day in AAA today...
I didn't say I like the Lowrie idea very much, either.Time machine idea has legs, DDski should get on that.
Lowrie at career OPS+ of 100, and OPS of .601 last 28 days vs .916 for Frazier. Why is Lowrie better?
Frazier has better numbers on the road, better numbers in the last few weeks, much better track record of health, and will cost almost nothing. Great call on his Home Run Derby title from two years ago though, you're right that's bound to drive up the price.I didn't say I like the Lowrie idea very much, either.
Lowrie does have a higher OBP in the home field environment of a pitcher's park. And might cost less, given his lack of HRD bling and significant injury history.
I'm fine with all that.
He's also a pull fly ball hitter and the Red Sox have a home heavy schedule.Frazier has better numbers on the road, better numbers in the last few weeks, much better track record of health, and will cost almost nothing. Great call on his Home Run Derby title from two years ago though, you're right that's bound to drive up the price.
Yeah, no doubt he's probably not going to be some savior.Todd Frazier has a career .318 OBP and OPS+ of 111.
Todd Frazier will be woefully miscast as a middle of the order bat.
Lowrie hasn't played 3B since 2015 (Astros) and has mediocre range wherever he plays. He's mostly a second baseman now, but if a guy has played a significant number games at third (has), he can go back there, I guess. He could sub for Pedey at second, if necessary. I like his hitting. His numbers with RISP, a big hot button right now for us, are good over the last 3 years. A's started to move veterans already: Doolittle and Madson to the Cubs.Todd Frazier has a career .318 OBP and OPS+ of 111.
Todd Frazier will be woefully miscast as a middle of the order bat. Farrell needs to plop Pedroia back at leadoff, and shift Mookie back to 3rd. There's your middle of the order bat.
I like the possibility of picking up Lowrie much, much more. And I don't like that possibility very much, objectively speaking. Somewhat higher on my list of preferences would be Dombrowski getting Baseball Ops to develop a functional time machine so that he can not trade Travis Shaw.
They're 5th in the majors in OBP. They're 21st in SLG. They need power.I didn't say I like the Lowrie idea very much, either.
Lowrie does have a higher OBP in the home field environment of a pitcher's park. And might cost less, given his lack of HRD bling and significant injury history.
I'm fine with all that.
I'm thinking about this knowing DDs history. When he deals midseason it's usually for a difference maker.Have to think Orioles are looking for, and will get, a prospect as good as or better than Jay Groome for Britton.
Not being an Orioles fan, I didn't realize just how much pitching they have given away over the past four deadlines: Jake Arrieta, Eduardo Rodriguez, Zach Davies, and Ariel Miranda shipped out for a couple months of Scott Feldman, a couple months of Andrew Miller, Steve Clevenger, Gerardo Parra, and Wade Miley.Ken Rosenthal just wrote that Oriole's are selling and listening on Britton, ODay.
Yes... But the difference is this will be within the division which means the cost will be 2X as muchI'm thinking about this knowing DDs history. When he deals midseason it's usually for a difference maker.
Meh. DD hasn't really operated that way over his time with the Sox or Orioles. He gave the Yankees Mike Stanley during a pennant drive for Tony Armas (who obviously turned into Pedro, but wasn't a huge overpay), he's made deals in division for reasonable returns for the most part. People forget that Jake Arrieta and ERod weren't Jake Arrieta and ERod when he moved them. Perhaps he should look at his coaching staff.Yes... But the difference is this will be within the division which means the cost will be 2X as much
Are you really citing 20+ year old trades as evidence of what Duquette will do now? (oh, BTW, typing DD is confusing when the Red Sox GM has the same initials)Meh. DD hasn't really operated that way over his time with the Sox or Orioles. He gave the Yankees Mike Stanley during a pennant drive for Tony Armas (who obviously turned into Pedro, but wasn't a huge overpay), he's made deals in division for reasonable returns for the most part. People forget that Jake Arrieta and ERod weren't Jake Arrieta and ERod when he moved them. Perhaps he should look at his coaching staff.
Britton won't be cheap, but it'll be because he's a premium reliever with another year of control in arbitration. That should be tempered a bit since he will have a high price tag dollar wise next year, but I find it difficult to believe DD will be looking for twice as much from a division rival and risk getting nothing. He has a rebuild ahead of him and if anything, the last thing he worries about is perception by media.
Apologies for DD confusion.Are you really citing 20+ year old trades as evidence of what Duquette will do now? (oh, BTW, typing DD is confusing when the Red Sox GM has the same initials)
Even citing decades old transactions, when has Duquette traded someone of Britton's pedigree at all, let alone in-division? Britton will fetch a king's ransom on par with what the Yankees got for Chapman and Miller last summer, and that's without considering the in-division tax. Britton to the Red Sox is a pipedream within a pipedream given what the Sox have for trade chips.
His OBP is only better than 3 guys on the 25 man. How does that make up for anything?Todd Frazier's OBP makes up for his terrible BA. I don't know how much he really improves us but it's sure as hell better than watching us get shut out with AAA players in our lineup.
If Dombrowski does anything but laugh and hang up if Hahn suggests that Home Run Derby results have some trade value, he should be shot and fired, in that order.Frazier has better numbers on the road, better numbers in the last few weeks, much better track record of health, and will cost almost nothing. Great call on his Home Run Derby title from two years ago though, you're right that's bound to drive up the price.
Oh he doesn't have to suggest anything, the HRD title will hang over every word of negotiation like a cloud.If Dombrowski does anything but laugh and hang up if Hahn suggests that Home Run Derby results have some trade value, he should be shot and fired, in that order.
No; no, it will not. And if you think it will, a guy named Trump has an online university degree he'd like to sell you.Oh he doesn't have to suggest anything, the HRD title will hang over every word of negotiation like a cloud.
Wily Mo Pena got the Reds Bronson Arroyo, who is still in MLB today. They don't just hand out HRD titles, P'tucket.No; no, it will not. And if you think it will, a guy named Trump has an online university degree he'd like to sell you.
If something like the outcome of a contest in which the participants choose their pitchers and pitch locations counted for anything, we could have cleaned out someone's farm system for Wily Mo Pena.
I'm pretty sure that isn't a trade that Theo brags about making.Wily Mo Pena got the Reds Bronson Arroyo, who is still in MLB today. They don't just hand out HRD titles, P'tucket.
If someone wants to give me a degree I'll take it.
Exactly. He didn't consider the HRD Title Tax. Lesson learned.I'm pretty sure that isn't a trade that Theo brags about making.
This is silly. The question isn't "where would Frazier rank, as a hitter, among the 13 hitters already on the roster?" The question is "how much more would he contribute than the guy(s) currently playing his position?" That's what "upgrade" means. Of course he's not a good enough player that the Sox should give up a great deal of value for two months of his services, so if the White Sox insist on a great deal of value, the deal shouldn't and hopefully won't happen. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't make the team better.His OPS+ would make him better than 7 of the 13 hitters currently in the 25 so if he replaced one of the guys below him he's be exactly in the middle of the 13 hoes on the roster. I just don't see him as enough of an upgrade to give up anything for.
That's a fair assessment on that part of my post. I should have just left it with my rebuttal of the quoted post about how Frazier's OBP makes up for his BA.This is silly. The question isn't "where would Frazier rank, as a hitter, among the 13 hitters already on the roster?" The question is "how much more would he contribute than the guy(s) currently playing his position?" That's what "upgrade" means. Of course he's not a good enough player that the Sox should give up a great deal of value for two months of his services, so if the White Sox insist on a great deal of value, the deal shouldn't and hopefully won't happen. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't make the team better.