Where Did All The Good Nicknames Go?

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Cuzitt wrote a piece today about nicknames in baseball and I think it brings up some good points that we even see around here:

OK, back to the Pedey, the Bogie and the Holty. While the players may not be aware, they are making diminutive names, a shortening of the given name into a more affectionate form. Kind of like how Timmy is short for Timothy.
Now, diminutive names aren’t necessarily bad, and some can work as nicknames. Certainly, Dwight Evans will always be Dewey. But they also tend to be kind of boring and one-note. Would we remember Bill Lee as fondly if he was nicknamed Billy as opposed to Spaceman? Would Carlton Fisk be as well-remembered if he was nicknamed Fisky as opposed to Pudge?
There aren't many good nicknames anymore, and worse yet, there are a lot of terrible ones. People pushing for JoFer has to be the worst thing going.
 

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Players actually talk and are visable. When writers and radio announcers were the only outlet they could give player nickname and the player didn't care. The reader's and listeners accepted the nickname unquestioned. So we had writers that could actually write, and announcers that were aware they were the only voice creating names. Now we have hundreds of voices creating names and an cynical fanbase. Look at the disaster of Kevin Durant tying to puch his own nicknames. "The servant" because he everybody gets served, until servant was explained to him. 'The Slim Reaper' was much better but he screwed it up by trying find a new T-shirt. The good ones seem to come from team mates "Big Papi"


In his historical abstract Bill James talks about nickname trends. we have passed through the partial name (I hope) phase, FLojo, Arod, Tmack, into the initial stage LBJ, KD,.even simply X.
 

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James does a terrific write-up in his abstract of nicknames throughout the years. The further we go back in history the better they become, to the point that almost all of the great ballplayers from the 19th century are better known by their nicknames (Cap Anson, King Kelly, Old Hoss Radbourn, Buck Ewing, Pud Galvin, Wee Willie Keeler, etc.) than by their actual names. I think the trend that hurts nicknames the most is the standardization of the amateur game. All ballplayers today come up through rigorously organized amateur systems, either through high school, college, or the development programs in the Caribbean. Back in the days of barnstorming and amateur Sunday leagues, a player's reputation was garnered not through scouting reports and televised competition, but through word-of-mouth and near-mythical feats. Denton Young became Cy Young because he threw as fast as a Cyclone and James Galvin became Pud Galvin because his pitches turned opposing hitters into pudding. I don't think those names come along in today's society where everybody knows the top prospects. I think the same explanation can realize why Negro League players tend to have the best nicknames, because their legacy is built on those semi-mythical feats and character traits.

I also think the decline in the number of sportswriters has effected the creativity of nicknames. With less people writing about the sport, their is less creativity going into the development of nicknames. What is interesting is that in the social media age it seems like nicknames should be at an all-time high because so many people have a voice and even the smallest of trends can leave a huge footprint.

What I really miss is the lack of great team, or unit nicknames. In baseball you have so many great team names, the Murder's Row, The Whiz Kids, The Gashouse Gang, The Big Red Machine, The $100,000 Infield, The Pittsburgh Lumber Company. We need those to come back.
 

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Whither Whitey? Very good article.

Actually most nicknames are just first initial and shortened last name a la ARod, which is of course just as uninspired and lame. It's not just the nicknames themselves but the people thinking of them and the players, too- everyone is more generic. We live in a less interesting, more closely measured and mediated time and the nicknames reflect that.
 

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Man, what I'd give for another El Guapo.

Was Pujols really "The Machine"? Or was that just an ESPN thing?
We've got a Panda, I know many folks are trying to pretend he doesn't exist but he does, and I bet Nick Cafardo is pulling for the Flyin' Hawaiian to make it back bigtime. Are we the only ones who called Brandon (Bronson) Arroyo "Saturn Nuts"?
Joey Bats, King Felix, ummm, let's get on this!
 

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Man, what I'd give for another El Guapo.
Are we the only ones who called Brandon (Bronson) Arroyo "Saturn Nuts"?
Yea, I'm sure every fanbase has a dark (soft)underbelly where all the really great nicknames are created and only live at that level. Sometimes they break through like Billy Butler and his awesome and appropriate nickname... Country Breakfast.
 

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Man, what I'd give for another El Guapo.

Was Pujols really "The Machine"? Or was that just an ESPN thing?
We've got a Panda, I know many folks are trying to pretend he doesn't exist but he does, and I bet Nick Cafardo is pulling for the Flyin' Hawaiian to make it back bigtime. Are we the only ones who called Brandon (Bronson) Arroyo "Saturn Nuts"?
Joey Bats, King Felix, ummm, let's get on this!
I feel like Joey Bats is one of the few bright spots in the recent barren landscape. Fits like a glove, dude has nothing but gangster swagger.

Yea, I'm sure every fanbase has a dark (soft)underbelly where all the really great nicknames are created and only live at that level. Sometimes they break through like Billy Butler and his awesome and appropriate nickname... Country Breakfast.
I wonder how much of the decline can be attributed to the decline of media monoliths and big voices with a truly national reach. Used to be, Jimmy Cannon would sit down and anoint you with your forever nickname in the weekly column, and I'm sure he lifted them all from the local chatter and papers. All the good nicknames now are swimming around in their own little regional internet ponds.
 
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Football has some tremendous unit nicknames, The Steel Curtain being the most iconic, but then you have The Purple People Eaters, The Doomsday Defense, The Monsters of the Midway, The Greatest Show on Turf, The Hogs, The Grits Blitz, The Fearsome Foursome, Air Coryell, etc. Hell, the New York Sack Exchange was brilliant.
 

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Football has some tremendous unit nicknames, The Steel Curtain being the most iconic, but then you have The Purple People Eaters, The Doomsday Defense, The Monsters of the Midway, The Greatest Show on Turf, The Hogs, The Grits Blitz, The Fearsome Foursome, Air Coryell, etc. Hell, the New York Sack Exchange was brilliant.
And that's become rare as well.

The 2001 Rams were the Greatest Show on Turf, the 2013 Seahawks were the Legion of Boom, and other than that?

I love a good nickname, but player nicknames in football are generally awful. RGIII is his name, but at least the 3 makes it distinctive. The movement (among Pats fans?) to call Brady "the GOAT" is a welcome one.
 
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I enjoyed the brief period of calling the 2003 Pats' D the "Homeland Defense". Had a tshirt that had that on it at one point, featuring Ty Law, Ted Washington and Richard Seymour (who I believe was active).
 

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My personal favorite nickname of all time is "The Boston Strangler" Andrew Toney, even as a Celtics fan that name is perfection.
 

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Yankee fans came up with some good ones for some of our favorite players

Shrek (Ortiz, back in his less svelte days)
Fat Man and Little Boy (Youkilis and Pedroia).

I also liked "The Thermos" for Tony Clark in his Red Sox days (2002); when the team was hot he was cold, and the few games he was hot, the team was cold, so he never made any meaningful contribution.

I didn't particularly like, but appreciated the cleverness of "The Napkin" for John Burkett; the idea was when you can't get what you really need (toilet paper), you get the next best thing that's available (a napkin).
 

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Flo or Florida was more common around here for awhile as I recall.

Speaking of, SOSH has come up with some pretty great nicknames that never really moved outside this forum:
Fruitbat
Horseface
Mr Peanut
Calm Eyes
Chicken Parm
Saturn Balls
What about:
Napkin
Cabin Mirror
Shit in a Suit (SIAS)
 

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I have a special spot for 'Eyechart' -- not so original, but the first time I became familiar with it was here at SOSH in 2004.
And, you know, '04.

At the other end of my personal Red Sox timeline is my first favorite player, George 'Boomer' Scott. I was just a little kid when I first admired the gold gleaming in his smile and the necklace of second basemen's teeth rattling around his neck. Ten years later, when he came back Boston I was a teen. Dad took me to the park to see my old champion return. The big first baseman only worked a walk in his first at bat that day. I said hopefully, "That's OK; at least the next guy still has a chance." Dad said, "They don't pay him to walk, son. They call him Boomer 'cause he hits taters."
It's the first time I remember trying to talk baseball like an adult. I felt like a six year old and a sixteen year old, all-at-once. And we were both sort of right.
 
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At the other end of my personal Red Sox timeline is my first favorite player, George 'Boomer' Scott. I was just a little kid when I first admired the gold gleaming in his smile and the necklace of second basemen's teeth rattling around his neck.
Wait, what? that's a new one to me. Do explain.
 

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With new basepath rule changes this year I doubt anyone could collect so many today.
 

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Shemp for Matsui was great.

Yankee fans came up with some good ones for some of our favorite players

Shrek (Ortiz, back in his less svelte days)
That was a lazy attempt to apply an existing nickname where it didn't really fit; we'd been calling one of the Yankees Shrek for years (I forget who), and it was by far the most fitting for Duke's Shelden Williams.
 

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He's mostly Pedey these days, but don't forget Laser Show.

A couple of current MLBers. "The Hebrew Hammer" Ryan Braun. "The Toddfather" Todd Frazier. "The Dark Knight" Matt Harvey. "The Freak" Tim Lincecum.

A few from the past... Andres Galarraga "The Big Cat" or "El Gato". Albert Lyle and George Anderson, a couple of guys known as Sparky. Former Sox reliever "The Monster", Dick Radatz
 
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I remember the other ones you listed, but who was this?
Bernie Williams.

Don't forget Hey Whore/Dumbo and Hopes and Dreams.

Laser Show and Muddy Chicken are great.

The Gold Dust Twins.

High Five City.

Pro.

Reggie the Rifle.

The Buffalo Heads.

Gerbil.

Gator.

Mookie.

Rocket.

Oil. Freaking. Can.

The Red Sox have had some GREAT nicknames over the past generation or two.
 

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Mugsy (Allenson), The Dominican Mystery Man (Checo), Doggie (Perez), Shag (Crawford), Trot (Nixon), Older Dude (Olerud), Hebrew Hammer I (Kapler), The Greek God of Walks (Youk), Coco (Crisp), Dice-K (Matsuzaka), Blue Wolf (Ross), Ironsides (Gomes), Boof (Bonser), The Cooler (Gonzalez), Frenchy (Cormier), Necks (Ciriaco).

I'll grant you that football lends itself to better nicknames for whole squads, however nothing beats baseball for individual nicknames.

The Sox are a veritable bonanza of great ones, with all due respect to Cuzitt.
 

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The best nicknames from history were, in a lot of cases, mean. "Wee" Willie Keeler is a nice, example - dude was short. On hundred years ago, Pedroia would be known as "Wee Dusty" or something. Because he's short.

One my favorite SoSH posters @Dummy Hoy could explain the mean nature of that nickname, and why there's no one known as "dummy" anymore.

All love to @Cuzittt but including "Red" among the creative nicknames is funny, since all those guys called red were actually gingers, or had red-hair - so it wasn't so much a creative nickname as it was a "hey, guy with distinguishing feature!" Same category as "Little Colonel" and "Wee Willie" and lots of others - a lot of ncknames were just an acceptable way to draw attention to what a guy looked like.

Thankfully for Don Mossi, this trend had largely died out by the time he made it to the majors. And the Goonies was still two decades or more away, or he'd have gotten stuck with "Sloth" and never would have shaken it.

However, this was a great read because it was a nice reminder of how many journalists "back then" could really turn a phrase. "The Splendid Splinter" is not just a great nickname - it is a lyrical description of Ted Williams's best ability and majesty as a player.

That said, it should be noted that for every time The Splendid Splinter was invoked by baseball-loving grandparents, it was almost always followed with a derisive use of "and Mr. Coffee wasn't nearly as good, no matter what those New Yorkers say". Indeed, Joe DiMaggio's nickname was a derisive reference to his post-playing career as a salesman for a product. Just typing out that bit reminds me of how much derision my grandfather had for Joe DiMaggio when someone would try to compare him to Williams. Ted was BETTER, you see. ;-)
 

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I just wanted to pop in and say that this discussion is great. I obviously love a good nickname and I'm glad some nicknames that I did not mention have been brought up in this thread.

Now, can we please stop calling Xander by a golf term?

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