He'll probably fall asleep at the light.Gets lost on the way? Or runs himself into a ditch?
He'll probably fall asleep at the light.Gets lost on the way? Or runs himself into a ditch?
It is not being an alcoholic that is the problem. There are plenty of functioning and thriving people who are also alcoholics. The problem with LaRussa is that he isn't in control of his alcoholism.Sure, of course the owner bypassing all the baseball executives to hire the manager himself already tells everyone that the franchise is a shitshow even if the owner had picked a good manager instead of a washed up racist alcoholic.
Only truly thriving alcoholics or drug addicts are those in recoveryIt is not being an alcoholic that is the problem. There are plenty of functioning and thriving people who are also alcoholics. The problem with LaRussa is that he isn't in control of his alcoholism.
But yes, the modifier to the word alcoholic is a problem.
For sure, but if he weren’t running afoul of the law and bringing embarrassment upon those who associate with him, his drinking wouldn’t necessarily be his employer’s concern, which I think is the point @oumbi is making. When you repeatedly get behind the wheel while intoxicated, it’s not just your personal demons anymore.Only truly thriving alcoholics or drug addicts are those in recovery
I agree and when one is 76 years old there are no more excusesFor sure, but if he weren’t running afoul of the law and bringing embarrassment upon those who associate with him, his drinking wouldn’t necessarily be his employer’s concern, which I think is the point @oumbi is making. When you repeatedly get behind the wheel while intoxicated, it’s not just your personal demons anymore.
While I do agree with you, that article was nothing but praise from the players. So unless I'm missing something, I think I'm missing something?I just don't see how this doesn't blow up badly, and probably very quickly.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2021/02/28/tony-la-russa-first-spring-training-game-white-sox-manager/6864311002/
Yeah, my comment had nothing to do with that article, just sticking to my original opinion, sorry for the confusion.While I do agree with you, that article was nothing but praise from the players. So unless I'm missing something, I think I'm missing something?
View: https://twitter.com/RyanMcGuffey/status/1387248622828498946Tony La Russa did not know that he could have used Jose Abreu at second base as the free runner instead of closer Liam Hendriks. Was informed of an amendment to rule by
@JRFegan
. "I'm guessing you know the rules better. Now I know," he said.
they would be run out of town by sundownLa Russa says it's 'my fault for not recognizing' that Lucas didn't have much gas left in the tank. Also says decision to go with Hamilton/Leury was because they were 'looking for a single there'. #WhiteSox
This made me look up to see who his bench coach is - it's Miguel Cairo. Apparently playing for LaRussa was the primary qualification, because Cairo has had what appears to be an undistinguished career since he hung 'em up in 2013. His only time on a coaching staff was a stint as temporary bench coach for the Reds in 2013.If nothing else, how is there not a non-senior citizen bench coach helping him with this sort of thing?
Harold Baines is probably available.If nothing else, how is there not a non-senior citizen bench coach helping him with this sort of thing?
He said non-senior citizen.Harold Baines is probably available.
"there will be a consequence he has to endure here within our family.""Tony La Russa was 'upset' that Yermin Mercedes hit a home run on a 3-0 count last night in a blowout win. "He made a mistake. There will be a consequence he has to endure here within our family."
I am sure the CHW players are over the moon that their manager threw one of their star players under the bus, for doing what every player does in every fucking sport during garbage time (stat padding!)I mean TLR has been so disastrous that the White Sox have the best record and differential in all of MLB
EDIT And this is without two of their best position players!
La Russa rejected Mercedes rationale that he was just being himself: "I heard he said something like, 'I play my game.' No he doesn't. He plays the game of Major League Baseball, respects the game, respects the opponents. And he's got to respect the signs."
View: https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1394775968712101891That was definitely a wild zoom with Tony. He wouldn't reveal the punishment (it's not playing time) then joked: “I could try and spank him but he’s too big and strong.”
yes, he is also one of the reasons this sport struggles to bring in and keep young fans..He's the reason the White Sox won't win the world series, and it's pathetic.
That said, what was Mercedes supposed to do? Stats are stats and they help these guys. This isn't little league.
I think he's upset that his player ignore the take sign on 3-0. The outcome of that "mistake" is probably irrelevant to him. Or he just forgot that he hit a HR.Let me get this straight, TLR is upset that his player hit a home run?
Right. These guys get paid based on the stats they put up. Their career trajectory is based on the stats they put up. Yermin's problem is he's 28 with less than 40 games in the majors making league minimum so he's in a terrible position to tell LaRussa to fuck off. His veteran teammates should bury LaRussa though.He's the reason the White Sox won't win the world series, and it's pathetic.
That said, what was Mercedes supposed to do? Stats are stats and they help these guys. This isn't little league.
We old Army guys know what happens when you disobey an order. Baseball is not the Army but chain of command matters. Who else will disobey signs? Where do you stop it? That’s what La Russa is doing here. Any manager would be pissed although most would settle it privately.Eh. LaRussa wants his guys to follow the signs being given, that's fine.
Edit: And I say that knowing that TLR is a total asshole after meeting him once a long, long time ago. Can't stand the guy.
View: https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/1394762359831416832?s=21Are coaches giving signs with 2 out, no one on in the 9th? Unwritten rules are asinine.
edit - I guess missed the tweet where he said he had to “respect the signs”. I wouldn‘t bother even looking at a coach in that situation.
No he's throwing his player under the bus for ignoring a coachSo he'll throw his own players under the bus for violating the unwritten rules a week or so after he professed he was unaware of the written rules?
Strong leadership.
Also strong leadership (sarcasm). My point still stands.No he's throwing his player under the bus for ignoring a coach
Yes, I saw that after I posted, that‘s why I added the edit. I would still tell Larussa to shit in his hat If I were Mercedes.
A coach that wanted him to stop trying because it would hurt the other team’s feelings.No he's throwing his player under the bus for ignoring a coach
Pretty much. He should have kept it within the clubhouse, but he isn't wrong about ignoring coaches. Definitely an asshole though.We old Army guys know what happens when you disobey an order. Baseball is not the Army but chain of command matters. Who else will disobey signs? Where do you stop it? That’s what La Russa is doing here. Any manager would be pissed although most would settle it privately.
Who cares why he wanted the sign given. Do you want players deciding to ignore something the coach tells them to do just because they feel like it?A coach that wanted him to stop trying because it would hurt the other team’s feelings.
If my coach is a turd like La Russa then yeah, maybe I do. It’s not a stretch to think that the players have zero respect for him and maybe that’s something the owner should’ve considered before dusting his irrelevant old ass off to manage the team.Who cares why he wanted the sign given. Do you want players deciding to ignore something the coach tells them to do just because they feel like it?
La Russa claims he was yelling “take” from the dugout.As someone said on Twitter, no one is looking at signs from the third base coach in a 15-3 game or whatever it was.
This is really what people are bitching about. Nobody likes the guy and I don’t blame them.Tony LaRussa is known to ignore written and unwritten rules regarding driving while intoxicated.
My question is more about whether the White Sox have the proper leadership and whether the obviously talented roster is listening to that leadership. Are they tuning Tony out already?Ignoring a coaches signs is something a player should be disciplined for.
of course, a manager who gives a take sign in that scenario is lame as fuck, and I get why yermin would ignore it, if he even saw (heard?) it
That’s the thing, a manager needs to have his players listen to him in order for the team to be successful, but in order for his players to listen to him he has to have their respect and telling a young stud to take on 3-0 isn’t the way to go about doing thatMy question is more about whether the White Sox have the proper leadership and whether the obviously talented roster is listening to that leadership. Are they tuning Tony out already?
I don't know if it's even the take sign on 3-0 that's the problem (though I agree the scenario didn't call for signs of any kind). The problem is airing it all through the media and making it into a way bigger deal than it deserves to be. I'm sure that Mercedes would likely respect LaRussa more if TLR went to him quietly in the clubhouse and told him he wasn't happy that he swung away in that spot. Mercedes might still disagree but at least he can respect someone that respects him.That’s the thing, a manager needs to have his players listen to him in order for the team to be successful, but in order for his players to listen to him he has to have their respect and telling a young stud to take on 3-0 isn’t the way to go about doing that