Who is the next coach?
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It certainly seems like Mayo is the odds on favorite.
It certainly seems like Mayo is the odds on favorite.
Who is the GM? That might tell us who's (not) the HC. If Jon Robinson comes back, count out Vrabel; if Dave Ziegler comes back, count out Josh McDaniel.
I really think the better question is who is the next GM and what role (if any) will he play in selecting the next coach. I do not like the idea of hiring a coach and then a GM after. For the first time since the Parcells/Grier era the Krafts have to take into account the working relationship between GM and coach.
Let's hope whomever it is cuts Mac immediately.
I think they will have a hard time passing over Vrabel, and they'll try to convince Mayo to take a "promotion" to DC. The offensive side of the ball will be very interesting. Josh is obviously out there, but he's an uninspired choice for me, and now that BB will likely be somewhere else, he may go with him. Arthur Smith also doesn't do much for me. I'd like to see some new thinking on that side of the ball.
I think they will have a hard time passing over Vrabel, and they'll try to convince Mayo to take a "promotion" to DC. The offensive side of the ball will be very interesting. Josh is obviously out there, but he's an uninspired choice for me, and now that BB will likely be somewhere else, he may go with him. Arthur Smith also doesn't do much for me. I'd like to see some new thinking on that side of the ball.
It’ll be interesting if Bill takes Steve with him somehow. In that case the Vrabel HC with Mayo as officia DC makes sense to keep stability with the Def.
He'll get HC offers. I am more thinking this year's version of Ben Slowik, and that will take some digging.
Will Mayo stick around if he’s not named HC? Doesn’t feel likely to me, at least for more than a year.
We can only hope. I have connections to a former (recent) Pats player who said that Steve is pretty much the worst coach he’s ever played for, college or pro. And this guy has been in the league for a while.
Honestly, I think the thing that matters the most this offseason is not the coach or the GM, it's getting the right QB. If they find the right guy in the draft, everything else will take care of itself IMO.
Weird that they are talking about embarking on a head coach search and who the favorite is when they don't even have a GM. Shouldn't they at least be pretending that they need to wait for the GM to be named so that the GM can have a say?
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Vrabel, Mayo, Flores...all BB-lite. If the offense is the reason BB is gone, I don't understand the interest in any of them.
Seriously... shit-canning the Godfather so a bunch of bruised fruit from his coaching tree takes over seems like the fast track to spinning their wheels in the mud of mediocrity.
How about giving Eric Bieniemy a shot? The Chiefs' O taking a nosedive after he left seems to have strengthened his case.
This. I’m also out on McDaniels and hope that isn’t the plan. Start with Ben Johnson and bring in some new faces
The quick HC chatter makes me wonder if the GM isn’t already more or less done. You have to start there and give him *a* if not *the* vote on his HC, no?
Vrabel isn’t from his coaching tree, and that’s probably part of his appeal.
He knows the franchise. He knows the Patriot Way ™. But he cut his own path in coaching and had his own success. More success than either Flores or Mayo, or basically any other available coach besides Bill himself and Pete Carroll.
I have to disagree. There’s ample evidence that bad organizations ruin potentially good QBs. Geno Smith comes to mind immediately as an example. Can’t remember where I saw a good breakdown of this (The Ringer), but so many promising QBs have flamed out because they ended up in chaotic organizations.
Sure, he didn't coach under him, but Vrabel is for sure a disciple of BB. He was born the BB system, molded by it. He didn't see the light until he was already a man, by then it was nothing to him but blinding!
It seems like Mayo was teed up for the role in the succession plan, unless Vrabel plays through.
Could be sticky
Never rule out Ken Roy.
Could be sticky
Never rule out Ken Roy.
I think it’s Mayo or Vrabel, with anyone else a very distant third.
My preference is for Mayo—he’s always struck me as uncommonly thoughtful and smart as well as being his own person. I don’t think he’d have any qualms about doing things his own way, though with what he deemed were the best of what he’s learned from Belichick.
But I’d have no issues with Vrabel getting the job.
My preference is for Mayo—he’s always struck me as uncommonly thoughtful and smart as well as being his own person. I don’t think he’d have any qualms about doing things his own way, though with what he deemed were the best of what he’s learned from Belichick.
But I’d have no issues with Vrabel getting the job.
I think it's going to be Mayo. I think Kraft would very much like to be seen as racially progressive, and that means that in the event of a tie, he'll go with a black coach over a white one, and there is absolutely no reason to believe Mayo isn't at least as good as anyone else out there. I want to be really clear, I absolutely am not calling Mayo an affirmative action hire if he's selected or anything even close to that. I'm saying that in the absence of a proven great (say a BB) he's going to want to give a minority the chance they seldom get in the NFL.
I guess if we're doing the tree thing, Vrabel is from the Bill O'Brien tree which is a branch off the Bill Belichick mega tree.
It's hard to not consider him a Belichick guy given he spent 8 years playing for Belichick and then his first NFL coaching gig was under a Belichick guy.
It's hard to not consider him a Belichick guy given he spent 8 years playing for Belichick and then his first NFL coaching gig was under a Belichick guy.
I don’t know how to value any of these guys, but the dream scenario of Vrabel winning a championship here would be about as perfect as can be. The lore 20 years from now would be about how Bob played 3D chess by bringing Vrabel to his box during a bye week to get him on tv and get him fired.
Please no.
I'd love a young offensive mind. It's a different game now and it's time for the offense to evolve with the times.
I'd go with Pete Carroll, who is pumped and jacked and ready for a new challenge.
I’m referring to the Michigan coach, not the Ravens coach. With the assumption that he will be leaving UMich
I think they'll play the process out with both Vrabel and Mayo and will be glad to turn it over to one of them when it's done.
I would think Vrabel would want the NE job above all else and would wait for an interview.
There's like a .00001% Vrabel takes a job before interviewing in New England. He's aware there's an opening. In fact there was a report yesterday that one of the reasons the Titans owner moved on was because of Vrabel not denying he would potentially have interest in NE.
100% agree. Wrote virtually the same thing in another thread yesterday. Hire the GM first, then go after the best available offense mind. None of the three of those moves the needle for me.
It’s going to be Mayo. I think it’s instructive to look at what happened when Parcells left. Kraft went in a different direction and felt like something was broken at the end with Parcells. The stories out of Tenn are that Vrabel has a Belichick HC centric view of the role organization. I suspect Kraft (and Jonathan) are going to be looking to pivot to a more collaborative organization (for better or worse). That’s not Vrabel.
Additionally, it’s been well reported that there was a succession plan in place and it’s Mayo. I don’t see any reason he will stray from that.
This is my expectation not my belief in what is correct. I think the first move should be to hire a President who can run the organization and be able to work with Jonathan and have enough credibility to keep the Krafts out of his business.
Additionally, it’s been well reported that there was a succession plan in place and it’s Mayo. I don’t see any reason he will stray from that.
This is my expectation not my belief in what is correct. I think the first move should be to hire a President who can run the organization and be able to work with Jonathan and have enough credibility to keep the Krafts out of his business.
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