luckiestman said:An NFL player getting media attention for saying guns blazing and that a super model is beautiful is a strange turn of events.
If people want Hardy banished for what he did, I get and agree with that. I don't quite get this other stuff. Don't most people on this board love KG? Isn't what he said to Melo magnitudes of order worse?
DrewDawg said:
Did KG have a history of violence towards women including tossing one onto a pile of guns?
DrewDawg said:Did KG have a history of violence towards women including tossing one onto a pile of guns?
Bosoxen said:
Does it ultimately matter? If Romo had said what Hardy said, he'd rightfully get blasted, too. Hardy's background adds a bit extra fuel to the fire, but it in no way is the only reason what he said was not ok.
Just because he wears your laundry doesn't mean you should look the other way because he doesn't have a known history of violence towards women.
luckiestman said:are we talking about "guns blazin" or I hope Giselle and her sister are at the game.
Wow, we heard the Gisele comments in very different ways. I found them to be incredibly obnoxious comments that were made even more striking because they were basically the first words he chose to let out of his mouth after his suspension for abusing a woman ended. I did not read that as him saying that a supermodel is beautiful. I thought it was creepy and crossing a line to talk to the media in a provocative manner about an opponent's wife/sister/wife's friends.luckiestman said:An NFL player getting media attention for saying guns blazing and that a super model is beautiful is a strange turn of events.
If people want Hardy banished for what he did, I get and agree with that. I don't quite get this other stuff. Don't most people on this board love KG? Isn't what he said to Melo magnitudes of order worse?
snowmanny said:Wow, we heard the Gisele comments in very different ways. I found them to be incredibly obnoxious comments that were made even more striking because they were basically the first words he chose to let out of his mouth after his suspension for abusing a woman ended. I did not read that as him saying that a supermodel is beautiful. I thought it was creepy and crossing a line to talk to the media in a provocative manner about an opponent's wife/sister/wife's friends.
Yeah. I'm with luckiestman here. It actually sounded to me like something Gronk might say. That said, I can see where someone with Hardy's history doesn't get the latitude that someone like Gronk might for the same comment.luckiestman said:
""I love seeing Tom Brady," "He's cool as crap. You seen his wife? I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game. [I hope] all her friends come to the game.""
I don't know, I'm just not that "creeped out" about a 27 year old guy wanting beautiful women to come watch him play ball.
luckiestman said:An NFL player getting media attention for saying guns blazing and that a super model is beautiful is a strange turn of events.
If people want Hardy banished for what he did, I get and agree with that. I don't quite get this other stuff. Don't most people on this board love KG? Isn't what he said to Melo magnitudes of order worse?
luckiestman said:
""I love seeing Tom Brady," "He's cool as crap. You seen his wife? I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game. [I hope] all her friends come to the game.""
I don't know, I'm just not that "creeped out" about a 27 year old guy wanting beautiful women to come watch him play ball.
Admittedly from limited occurrences, but Gronk seems to be more careful about what he says lately with a mike in his face.Saints Rest said:Yeah. I'm with luckiestman here. It actually sounded to me like something Gronk might say. That said, I can see where someone with Hardy's history doesn't get the latitude that someone like Gronk might for the same comment.
I will predict that the best-case scenario for Hardy is that this doesn't work. The more likely outcome is that it backfires miserably and LGBT scores a touchdown directly on his face or something.Marciano490 said:
He's talking about an opponent's wife and sister in law as a way to get under his skin.
Marciano490 said:
He's talking about an opponent's wife and sister in law as a way to get under his skin. His job is to sack Brady. It's very clearly "I want your wife to watch me get to you and get turned on." He's using Giselle - who is the most successful person ever in her field - as a prop in some macho half-assed head game. If you can't see how that's an issue - particularly coming from someone with his history toward women - have another think.
luckiestman said:
Calling a foul on "macho" when talking about football should have to be followed with Doc Holliday's quote from tombstone "apparently my hypocrisy knows no bounds"
If you don't like machismo, I think T. Brady fandom can't be in your wheelhouse. I mean what could be more macho than than marrying the most successful super model ever "Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
I come down like this: If he's just trying to fuck with an opponent: tale as old as time.
If he's just saying: wow, fucking Tom Brady, Holy shit, 4 superbowls and married the most famous super model ever, I hope he brings all those ladies to the game to watch me. I don't have a problem with that either.
Marciano490 said:
Do you think Giselle, who's done more in life than a dozen Greg Hardy's, likes being reduced to a pawn in a high school level game of shit talking?
I think we have different definitions of macho, or are using them different here, if marrying a beautiful woman is equated with Hardy's words and deeds.
And, dude, the expression is tailors old as time. Like how your tailor is probably some really old guy from Italy or the Czech Republic. Not tales. That makes no sense.
Marciano490 said:
He's talking about an opponent's wife and sister in law as a way to get under his skin. His job is to sack Brady. It's very clearly "I want your wife to watch me get to you and get turned on." He's using Giselle - who is the most successful person ever in her field - as a prop in some macho half-assed head game. If you can't see how that's an issue - particularly coming from someone with his history toward women - have another think.
You're kidding, right? It's a lyric from that massively irritating beauty and the beast song.Marciano490 said:And, dude, the expression is tailors old as time. Like how your tailor is probably some really old guy from Italy or the Czech Republic. Not tales. That makes no sense.
Shelterdog said:
Clubber Lang: [Calling to Adrian; Smooth talks] Hey, Woman. Hey, Woman! Listen here. Since your old man ain't got no heart, maybe you like to see a real man. I bet you stay up late every night dreamin' you had a real man, don't ya? I'll tell you what. Bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight, and I'll show you a real man.
Rocky Balboa: [loses his temper completely; Screaming] You want it, you got it! YOU GOT IT!
luckiestman said:
I concede your first point because I don't know Giselle. But I don't see why you bring up her success. Are you implying that what Hardy said would be fine if she was a kept wife (not really term I'm looking for but can't think of something better).
Marciano490 said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but didn't want to touch on the racial overtones.
And, MSF, no, tailors old as time. Stop getting your phraseology from Disney movies.
Saints Rest said:I can see how you are reading it that way, Marciano. But that is not the way I took it all. For me, the subtext was something more like what luckiestman suggested. Something alone the lines of: "TB is cool. His wife is incredibly beautiful. I bet she has a beautiful sister. And beautiful friends. I hope they all come so I can look at all that beauty."
I don't think it was trying to get under his skin. But I can see your point.
Who the fuck knows. It's Greg Hardy, not exactly a Rhodes Scholar. I'm not exactly sure why any of us (me included) have wasted any time on this!Marciano490 said:
He must have great eye sight and poor focus if he can see women in the stands.
Here's my guesses(and there's only 7 inactives)Saints Rest said:
Who the fuck knows. It's Greg Hardy, not exactly a Rhodes Scholar. I'm not exactly sure why any of us (me included) have wasted any time on this!
To get back on topic, who do we think will be the in actives this week as all will be healthy scratches. Here's my guess:
- Tre Jackson
- Geneo Grissson
- Khyri Thornton
- Trey Flowers
- Rufus Johnson
- Justin Coleman
- Jordan Richards
- Tavon Wilson
The Cowboys rarely carry three quarterbacks on their 46-man game-day roster.
Yeah idk man, I Googled "tailors old as time" and am coming up with zilch. Most of the results are Beauty and the Beast related.Marciano490 said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but didn't want to touch on the racial overtones.
And, MSF, no, tailors old as time. Stop getting your phraseology from Disney movies.
RedOctober3829 said:Here's my guesses(and there's only 7 inactives)
Bradley Fletcher
Trey Flowers
Justin Coleman
Josh Kline
Tavon Wilson
Geneo Grissom
James White
So yeah, Lee is kind of a big deal. With his coverage ability, and Hardy boosting the pass rush, I wonder if they'll stay away from the blitz altogether.Bosoxen said:For the Cowboys, as mentioned upthread right before the Hardy hijack, Sean Lee will be playing.
And, in news that will caused Greg29 and myself to jump for joy, Matt Cassell will be active. This article hints that they won't also activate Kellen Moore, but it doesn't say so definitively:
Tough to project who sits for Wendell. I bet there will still be a rotation of sorts as there has been for the last 3 weeks. I originally had Shaq Mason out, but settled on Kline. I'd like to see a Solder-Jackson-Andrews-Wendell-Seabass combo and see how that works.Shelterdog said:
I think Kline starts at RG (he seems to be moving ahead of Jackson). Coleman may be the nickel back.
The question with Hardy is what kind of condition he is in. He hasn't played all season and it takes a while to get into game shape. He may only be on the field for a limited number of snaps.MarcSullivaFan said:So yeah, Lee is kind of a big deal. With his coverage ability, and Hardy boosting the pass rush, I wonder if they'll stay away from the blitz altogether.
I don't see this as a walkover at all.
Apparently they went Solder-Mason-Wendell-Kline-Vollmer at practice a bunch. You'd expect Andrews to stay active. I suspect they move guys in and out for a few more weeks before settling on their five.RedOctober3829 said:Tough to project who sits for Wendell. I bet there will still be a rotation of sorts as there has been for the last 3 weeks. I originally had Shaq Mason out, but settled on Kline. I'd like to see a Solder-Jackson-Andrews-Wendell-Seabass combo and see how that works.
crystalline said:What I have learned from this page of the thread- some of the posters here have a very very literal take on simplistic trash talk. Does Marciano need to explain the KG Honey Nut Cheerios reference too? If Hardy gets a sack he's going to be screaming much more dirty compliments about Giselle's lady parts in Brady's ear, I'd wager.
That's not what I got from his post at all. Wasn't he responding to the posters in this thread who expressed their righteous indignation over Hardy's comments? He didn't mention Nolan once.DrewDawg said:It's like you didn't even realize that Nolan's real complaint wasn't about Hardy but about the league and the reporters.
Cowboys usually don't care what cameras film during the open portion of practice. But this week, no filming the offense
crystalline said:What I have learned from this page of the thread- some of the posters here have a very very literal take on simplistic trash talk.
The real Brandon Weeden must be ready to shine!Ferm Sheller said:Only because the offense is so awful that it would break the camera.
Terrell Suggs would like a word with you.Devizier said:
Greg Hardy is -- as far as we know -- the biggest piece of shit in the league. He's lucky that he's not in jail.