The David Lee deal was supposed to be announced today so there will be movement.HomeRunBaker said:Where does Zoran get playing time here where he couldn't even get on their active roster until after the NBDL season ended last season? He's 26 and guaranteed this year bringing us to 17 guaranteed deals. I'm guessing there will be further roster movement announced at some point today.
Napier can actually play some NBA minutes now and have some upside. Zoran is 26 and not an NBA player. Yes, I'd prefer Napier too but that wasn't happening.Clears Cleaver said:Rather the C's got Napier
HomeRunBaker said:This saves Miami over $6m when tax penalties are included and all for a heavily protected 2nd rounder that we will likely never see AND giving up one of our 2nd rounders? In the end it doesn't affect much when you're talking about the 14-15th roster spots but this really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Little risk of course but the only reward comes on the Miami end in saving a shitload of money.
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A league source says the Heat agreed to pay Zoran Dragic's salary next season and that the Celtics intend to waive him.
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C's get pick, get over cap with no $ paid on their own. Trade exceptions back in play
i think you have the picks backwards - we are giving a protected pick that THEY will never see and getting a second rounder from them.HomeRunBaker said:This saves Miami over $6m when tax penalties are included and all for a heavily protected 2nd rounder that we will likely never see AND giving up one of our 2nd rounders? In the end it doesn't affect much when you're talking about the 14-15th roster spots but this really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Little risk of course but the only reward comes on the Miami end in saving a shitload of money.
Cellar-Door said:I'm 99.999% sure the guy saying they keep the trade exceptions is wrong. They signed Johnson officially, which means they had to have had cap space to do so. Once you drop below the cap the exceptions are gone forever.
Cellar-Door said:I'm 99.999% sure the guy saying they keep the trade exceptions is wrong. They signed Johnson officially, which means they had to have had cap space to do so. Once you drop below the cap the exceptions are gone forever.
Eddie Jurak said:They cleared the books of some but not all cap holds. (Dana Barros is one who has not been cleared).
vicirus said:I believe he was referring to the mid-level and bi-annual exceptions (although he wrote trade...). Once Crowder is signed they'll go back over the cap and these will be available to them.
No, but I think SB Nation or ESPN published the list recently.zenter said:
You have the list somewhere?
To be able to manipulate your over/under cap status for maximum utility in terms of exceptions.jscola85 said:What, exactly, is the benefit of not releasing a cap hold on a guy like Dana Barros?
Eddie Jurak, it sounds like you know way more about this stuff than I do. So, how is it that Dana Barros still has a cap hold? Basketball Reference lists him as 48 years old, shouldn't he be officially retired? Thanks.Eddie Jurak said:They cleared the books of some but not all cap holds. (Dana Barros is one who has not been cleared).
Cap holds stay in place indefinitely - unless the team formally renounces their rights to the player.kfoss99 said:Eddie Jurak, it sounds like you know way more about this stuff than I do. So, how is it that Dana Barros still has a cap hold? Basketball Reference lists him as 48 years old, shouldn't he be officially retired? Thanks.
They closed it. You can only be involved in a sign and trade if you finished the previous season on the 15 man roster.vicirus said:The other reason not to renounce players is that if they haven't filed retirement paper work, they're eligible to be used in sign and trades (or at least used to be?) via holding their bird rights. The most famous example was Keith Van Horn being traded from Dallas to the Nets after being out of the league for a year. The Mavs were trying to trade for Jason Kidd and needed to make up some salary. They signed Van Horn for like $4MM after he agreed to just sign and collect a check. The league attempted to put a stop to it by requiring players like this to actually report and attend games.
That example was from 06 or 07, so maybe this loop hole was closed in the CBA, but if Shaq decided to launch a comeback, we could theoretically include him in a trade.
vicirus said:I believe he was referring to the mid-level and bi-annual exceptions (although he wrote trade...). Once Crowder is signed they'll go back over the cap and these will be available to them.
Joe Kleine's highest single season salary came the year after he "unofficially" retired. He had already announced that he was joining the Suns broadcast team when he completed a sign-n-trade to go to Indiana to make the Jermaine O'Neal for Dale Davis deal go through back when the Blazers were gunning for a title. He joked about it on the broadcasts.Cellar-Door said:They closed it. You can only be involved in a sign and trade if you finished the previous season on the 15 man roster.