Fwiw, I'm ok with the pick. He's smart, he's a bulldog, he's a hard worker, and he's got arguably the best athletic tools of anyone on the draft.This isn't someone like Vlade Divac making this pick though. Ainge has always been at the forefront of analytics. There are circumstances where models cannot possibly factor in and the one Brown was in as a 19-year old freshman seems to me like it is one of them where traditional scouting carries much greater weight.
This makes sense based on Wyc's comments. In other words.....the Bulls were never trading Butler.Again I'm trusting a former college roommate who basically works as a gopher at the tribune . Chicago wanted #3 and 2017 Nets pick, plus crowder and Bradley for butler. Again take it as grain of salt based on who's it's from. He claims it'll come out soon as bulls apparently asking for Dunn,Lavine(who they love) and Dieng
What in the world is Orlando doing?Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA now
Orlando will send Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova and rights to Sabonis to the Thunder, sources said.
He sounds like FrankensteinArvydas Sabonis has the voice of a cartoon villain.
I mean, that's a pretty good trade for OKC, regardless of the reasoning.Oladipo, wow. KD bolt insurance?
Insane if trueAgain I'm trusting a former college roommate who basically works as a gopher at the tribune . Chicago wanted #3 and 2017 Nets pick, plus crowder and Bradley for butler. Again take it as grain of salt based on who's it's from. He claims it'll come out soon as bulls apparently asking for Dunn,Lavine(who they love) and Dieng
They think it helps them get FAs, they made a bunch of dubious trades to clear cap at the deadline too.What in the world is Orlando doing?
They think Serge moves them into contention?
IF this is true, then Wyc was right and I'm glad Danny passed.Again I'm trusting a former college roommate who basically works as a gopher at the tribune . Chicago wanted #3 and 2017 Nets pick, plus crowder and Bradley for butler. Again take it as grain of salt based on who's it's from. He claims it'll come out soon as bulls apparently asking for Dunn,Lavine(who they love) and Dieng
Apparently not to the Celtics...maybe your Eastern Conference theory was correct. Because it seems as if Butler will be a Wolf by the end of the nightThis makes sense based on Wyc's comments. In other words.....the Bulls were never trading Butler.
I can see it for them, actually. There's a case to be made that Fournier and Hezonja are both ahead of Oladipo. Ibaka pairs well with Vucevic. I can see it.What in the world is Orlando doing?
They think Serge moves them into contention?
uhh, he's lithuanian.Arvydas Sabonis is like a Russian Andre the Giant
In the NBA? I don't know, a lot more contact allowed in the NBA.Seeing the highlights of Brown I'm worried he's going to get called for three offensive fouls every night.
Fab Melo was picked 22nd. What do you reasonably expect with that pick?For me, it is more the Fab Melo pick. Complete waste. Ainge also drafted Rozier and Hunter the year after drafting Smart. His picks when standing on their own aren't as bad, but unfortunately as far as team building goes, it has been pretty bad.
The Celts are good due to his tremendous hire of Stevens, trade for Thomas, and solid FA signings. Ainge as a drafter has been below average.
Did I miss a tweet?Apparently not to the Celtics...maybe your Eastern Conference theory was correct. Because it seems as if Butler will be a Wolf by the end of the night
+ Wade BaldwinTaurean Prince at 12. The big men keep drifting down to 16.
Read they will go hard after Horford.They think it helps them get FAs, they made a bunch of dubious trades to clear cap at the deadline too.
He wasn't my preference, but you're right- really bright, high character guy who is crazy strong and athletic, with fantastic defensive versatility. Blue chip prospect who was in a situation at Cal that didn't play into his strengths. Easy enough to get excited about this kid.Fwiw, I'm ok with the pick. He's smart, he's a bulldog, he's a hard worker, and he's got arguably the best athletic tools of anyone on the draft.
He's also extremely poloarizing.
I don't know what this is based on. Without getting into a stats vs. scouts thing, apart from Smart, Ainge has not really taken analytics darlings in the draft.This isn't someone like Vlade Divac making this pick though. Ainge has always been at the forefront of analytics. There are circumstances where models cannot possibly factor in and the one Brown was in as a 19-year old freshman seems to me like it is one of them where traditional scouting carries much greater weight.
It's possible. I'll demand apologies from anyone who said that wasn't a thing. (kidding about apologies)Apparently not to the Celtics...maybe your Eastern Conference theory was correct. Because it seems as if Butler will be a Wolf by the end of the night
In wrestling anyone from Eastern Europe is considered Russian.uhh, he's lithuanian.
Draymond Green?Fab Melo was picked 22nd. What do you reasonably expect with that pick?
Not Fab Melo. Passing on Jae Crowder (on the team now), Draymond Green, and Khris Middelton.Fab Melo was picked 22nd. What do you reasonably expect with that pick?
IF IT WAS ON THE TABLE.Ainge fucked this whole thing up. Crowder, #3, and other parts for Butler if it was on the table is criminal to turn down.
Remember Thad Young.I keep replaying Bogaerts walk off. It's helping me deal with the nauseous feeling every time think about Silver announcing the pick. Then I remember dropping 3/4 to the other Sox and I get depressed again
Exactly. This is why I always expect a Brady with the 6th round picks.Draymond Green?
Look at his front office over the years. He's had high level analytical guys there since he took the job. Were they a front? We don't know how much influence and weight analytics played but you can't deny that he has embraced it with the front office teams he's built.I don't know what this is based on. Without getting into a stats vs. scouts thing, apart from Smart, Ainge's picks have mostly not been analytics darlings.
I agree Ainge isn't Vlade Divac, but he's also not Belichick. He hasn't really earned any benefit of the doubt with respect to his drafting. He's been fine.
Agreed and Crowder can't be a deal breaker either.Ainge fucked this whole thing up. Crowder, #3, and other parts for Butler if it was on the table is criminal to turn down.
Was anyone calling from Crowder, Green or Middleton on draft night? I doubt it. From what I remember, everyone wanted Perry Jones IIINot Fab Melo. Passing on Jae Crowder (on the team now), Draymond Green, and Khris Middelton.
If other parts = BK2017, BK2018 and Bradley then no, no it isn't.Ainge fucked this whole thing up. Crowder, #3, and other parts for Butler if it was on the table is criminal to turn down.
Thank you, Captain Hindsight.Not Fab Melo. Passing on Jae Crowder (on the team now), Draymond Green, and Khris Middelton.