Maybe want to keep Lin where he is given how well he is hitting.Odd they would go with the three man bench now,
While this may be a bit premature, it would not surprise me if he retires at tbe end of this season.Career over. Sorry guys but let’s face it.
There are at least 40 million reasons why that won’t happen.While this may be a bit premature, it would not surprise me if he retires at tbe end of this season.
I suggested it on the game thread. He’s not on the 40, so it would take some fancy dancing.As opposed to the Travis move, did anyone expect to see Adam Lind up to strengthen the bench, or play some DH? He did post an .875 OPS last year in 116 games.
Cabrera is playing quite well. I'm wondering if there could be a deal to be made there, but if/when Perdroia comes back you're looking at a whole lot of redundancy on that bench. Prob best just to stick with Nunez or Lin for the time being. Does Holt, Swihart and Cabrera's contract get it done? The move would also open a spot on the 40 for Lind.Start working the phone lines before its to late. Lowrie Dozier Cabrera all can play the position, all the wrong side of 30, all should come cheap while providing bench depth if Pedroia returns
Bobby Doerr - retired at 33, back problems. He (Pedey) should be able to get over a knee though, right?Red Sox second basemen missing time with serious knee injuries in their 30s scare me.
Jerry Remy - retired at 31
Marty Barrett - retired at 33
Dustin Pedroia - 34
Don’t think so, but the MLBPA might raise a stink, or at least an eyebrow.Is there an MLB rule preventing the Red Sox from signing Hanley?
No we are on the hook for his whole salary. Whatever he makes on top is extra.Don’t think so, but the MLBPA might raise a stink, or at least an eyebrow.
If we were to sign Hanley for the league minimum would we even be paying him more than we are already? If another team signs him for say $500,000, I’m pretty sure that’s $500,000 less we have to pay Hanley, right?
See above, but you would still be paying him $500,000 more. In doing so, you would avoid paying him $22 mil next year. I'm sure there would be a huge stink about it.Don’t think so, but the MLBPA might raise a stink, or at least an eyebrow.
If we were to sign Hanley for the league minimum would we even be paying him more than we are already? If another team signs him for say $500,000, I’m pretty sure that’s $500,000 less we have to pay Hanley, right?
Thats not correct. See Article IX-F of CBA. If he signs with another team whatever he gets from them gets deducted from what we oweNo we are on the hook for his whole salary. Whatever he makes. See Article IX on top is extra.
You're probably right, but a reasonable counter is that if it were as simple as this, it would be more than 40 million reasons (or perhaps more accurately, there would be a lot more "reasons" in the rear view mirror).There are at least 40 million reasons why that won’t happen.
Oh wow. I misread some articles then. Apologies!Thats not correct. See Article IX-F of CBA. If he signs with another team whatever he gets from them gets deducted from what we owe
At a certain point if there is no visible evidence that the injury's hasn't healed or is still hampering him all they have to go on is what Pedroia tells them. In hindsight a few more rehab starts might have been nice given the time missed, but if he's moving well and says he feels good I don't know if you hold the doctors accountable.Here we are again. Where are the competent doctors?
It is a little bizarre considering Pedey himself said he didn't feel the pain anymore just walking around like he did last year...quoted in this article a few months ago:At a certain point if there is no visible evidence that the injury's hasn't healed or is still hampering him all they have to go on is what Pedroia tells them. In hindsight a few more rehab starts might have been nice given the time missed, but if he's moving well and says he feels good I don't know if you hold the doctors accountable.
The bolded is my only problem with this post. Has there been a time yet when he's come back from injury at the appropriate time?This is the only thing resembling a problem that I’ve ever had with Pedroia. His competitive spirit or determination (or whatever) can sometimes bring him back before he’s ready.
Given the intense reports about the state of his knee and it’s impact on his future health that came out at the end of last season, this is a little worrisome.
Problem with that is there are a lot more RHP than LHP. Also, Dustin doesn’t have much of a career split difference vs. RHP and LHP. Cora will probably just give him lots of days off. Brock’s bounceback has been a godsend though. I just hope Pedroia makes it back to the team at least close to his old self.If/when Pedey comes back one way to ease him: a platoon with BROCKHOLT, taking advantage of the latter’s excellent playing.
It is a little bizarre considering Pedey himself said he didn't feel the pain anymore just walking around like he did last year...quoted in this article a few months ago:
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2018/02/17/dustin-pedroia-addressed-the-leadership-situation-on-last-years-red-sox
I sure hope maybe it is just some temporary flair up after not putting the type of game activity on it because it sounded like the worst was behind him.
He went through an extended spring training before starting a five-game rehab assignment with Triple A Pawtucket on May 14. He made his regular-season debut May 26 and was confident the work he had done had put him at full strength.
“That’s the part that stinks is I went through so much during it, testing it, playing three games,” Pedroia said. “The way I was moving, you guys all saw. And then to follow everything and have that feeling in that spot, it stinks. It’s tough to deal with. But we didn’t do anything wrong. It’s tough to deal with, but maybe it’s just a part of it.
Even though his minor league rehab assignment was relatively short and he never played a full nine innings, he felt his body responded well.
“The whole time I didn’t feel anything,” Pedroia said. “So they were, like, ‘Man, maybe he’s not going to have it.’ The way I was moving, the way I felt, it stinks that it happened.”
Pedroia went 1 for 11 in three games before going on the DL. He plans to visit Dr. Riley Williams III on Tuesday at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York. The setback is disappointing, he said, but necessary.
“I kind of have to, because I know I’m going to be back to normal,” Pedroia said. “It’s just I’ve got to communicate and be honest when I do have discomfort or things like that. We didn’t do anything wrong. It’s not like we didn’t test it enough. Trust me, when I was in Florida, I was on the field for six hours making sure if we played a five-hour game I was an hour more on the field — and did it the next day.
“That’s the part I’m frustrated with. We did all that, then I played and had an off day and felt fine. Then we got here, and I didn’t [feel fine].”
I was hedging for maximum diplomatic effect but yeah, none that I recall.The bolded is my only problem with this post. Has there been a time yet when he's come back from injury at the appropriate time?
Here's DRS's take from last October before he went under the knife. Needless to say, it was quite prescient given Pedroia's current struggles.It would be interesting to get DRS's take. I wonder what inflammation after microfracture surgery means. It might mean that the surgery didn't properly grow new cartilage like you hope it would have. That would be a bummer. It also might though simply just be something that happens without concern. Or something.
But tims4wins said Pedroia's career was over! What does this Chris Geary fellow know about anything?It's a couple days old but here is what he said on twitter:
Thanks. Ok, well I guess we'll know when we know but at least there's some reason to be optimistic.It's a couple days old but here is what he said on twitter:
Since no one apparently bothered to read the link I put upthread, here's what DRS said on his blog last year about Pedey's outlook (which, BTW, was titled "PEDROIA’S PATELLOFEMORAL PAIN – POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC, POSSIBLY PERMANENT" -- I didn't read that as terribly positive):But tims4wins said Pedroia's career was over! What does this Chris Geary fellow know about anything?
If Pedroia was older or less active, he might be a candidate for some sort of knee replacement, either partial or total. Knee replacement surgery is an excellent procedure for relieving pain, but it’s not compatible with high-level athletic activity.
The obvious advantage of these procedures over a chondroplasty, or “cleanout”, is that the root of the problem is being addressed- new cartilage is being grown or transferred to the area of cartilage loss. The downsides, especially when it comes to an athlete like Pedroia, are the extended rehabilitation (4-6 weeks on crutches, no running for 3-6 months, no sports activity for 6-12 months depending on the specific procedure) and the lack of guaranteed success. While the odds are good, there are certainly patients who don’t do well or get back to their previous level of activity- one recent example from baseball was Grady Sizemore, who had microfracture on his knees prior to signing with the Red Sox and while he did make it back to MLB, was never quite the same player.
Granted, this was all pre-surgery speculation. But I remembered at the time that this ... didn't sound good.Having a cartilage restoration procedure might extend his career longevity, but would certainly require him to miss a significant amount of time in the near future. Even if Pedroia were to have surgery in the next few weeks, he would almost definitely miss a significant portion of next season, if not the whole year. Pedroia may decide that the potential upside of having the surgery does not outweigh the definitive downside of missing a substantial chunk of one his last seasons of professional baseball. That would leave him in his current situation, with a less-than-perfect knee which might be manageable but is likely to flare up at times over the next few seasons. At the end of the day, there is certainly no perfect solution for Pedroia and the Sox – how they handle it will certainly bear watching in the off-season and in upcoming years.
I think your sarcasm meter is due for recalibration.Since no one apparently bothered to read the link I put upthread, here's what DRS said on his blog last year about Pedey's outlook (which, BTW, was titled "PEDROIA’S PATELLOFEMORAL PAIN – POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC, POSSIBLY PERMANENT" -- I didn't read that as terribly positive):
Granted, this was all pre-surgery speculation. But I remembered at the time that this ... didn't sound good.