I think it’s a reach to extrapolate ‘more lucrative’ to high discount and $8-10m, but hey, have at it.Ken RosenthalVerified account @Ken_Rosenthal 6m6 minutes ago
McCann turned down more lucrative offers to return to #Braves. Agent B.B. Abbott: ... (more at link)
he probably had 2 year, ~8-10 mil deals out there. I mean, he's a vet, that's very low-end backup catcher money there. Jeff Mathis got more with the Rangers.
meanwhile, the Braves seemed to take the savings and put it all into Donaldson. a huge injury risk especially on an NL team.
Not coincidentally they have the same agent, such a conflict of interest as it is every winter.Machado has to be happy that a backup plan for many teams, Donaldson, is off the market early.
Right, but if Machado signed first, I think Donaldson would have had much more interest. Maybe he wanted to go to ATL anyway, but it is a bad conflict of interest even if it's tough to avoid. Boras has had some of these in the past too.Atlanta was never a realistic landing spot for Machado.
He signed on January 5. 2017. So neither last year nor particularly early.Possibly, but then again, Edwin Encarnacion is probably pretty happy he signed early last year before prices plummeted for the guys who waited.
That was two years ago, after 2016, and 3/60 is a lot better than 1/23, especially since Donaldson put up 36 bWAR in the 5 seasons before last season. Over 7 bWAR per season for five straight years, ATL got a bargain.Possibly, but then again, Edwin Encarnacion is probably pretty happy he signed early last year before prices plummeted for the guys who waited.
Robinson Cano can still play. The Mariners are going to pay most of his deal, AND take Jay Bruce AND give up Edwin Diaz? Good luck with that.Cano to the Mets might really happen.
https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/mets-said-to-be-aggressive-on-potential-robinson-cano-trade/301137208
Someone's been watching MLB Network. Pretty sure I saw a proposal exactly like that author suggests (Mets getting Cano and Diaz and Mallex Smith for Bruce and prospects) on MLB Now at around 4:30. It was an entirely fictitious scenario created by Dan Dowd for discussion purposes. The only part the SNY author leaves out is the Mets demanding a negotiating window with Cano to redo the last three years of the deal.Cano to the Mets might really happen.
https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/mets-said-to-be-aggressive-on-potential-robinson-cano-trade/301137208
I'm a bit confused. Are you suggesting the SNY report is just stealing O'Dowd's fake proposal and reporting it as news? The timestamps don't reflect this possibility.Someone's been watching MLB Network. Pretty sure I saw a proposal exactly like that author suggests (Mets getting Cano and Diaz and Mallex Smith for Bruce and prospects) on MLB Now at around 4:30. It was an entirely fictitious scenario created by Dan Dowd for discussion purposes. The only part the SNY author leaves out is the Mets demanding a negotiating window with Cano to redo the last three years of the deal.
That’s SNY article is from this morning.Someone's been watching MLB Network. Pretty sure I saw a proposal exactly like that author suggests (Mets getting Cano and Diaz and Mallex Smith for Bruce and prospects) on MLB Now at around 4:30. It was an entirely fictitious scenario created by Dan Dowd for discussion purposes. The only part the SNY author leaves out is the Mets demanding a negotiating window with Cano to redo the last three years of the deal.
The Mets ability to make it seem like they're doing something while locking themselves into longer periods of mediocrity is occasionally impressive.
They're going to give up prospects and payroll space for a closer when there are handfuls available just for money... and the right to throw Cano's corpse out there? Is grabbing an elite closer putting the cart before the horse a bit? Why are they shopping Syndergaard AND doing this?
I was always a Sox fan but the Mets were an early love because we lived way closer to Shea and that's where I saw my first MLB game(s) live. But yeah. Contract the Mets already.
I have zero confidence that they can pull this off, but the general plan kind of makes sense:The Mets ability to make it seem like they're doing something while locking themselves into longer periods of mediocrity is occasionally impressive.
They're going to give up prospects and payroll space for a closer when there are handfuls available just for money... and the right to throw Cano's corpse out there? Is grabbing an elite closer putting the cart before the horse a bit? Why are they shopping Syndergaard AND doing this?
I was always a Sox fan but the Mets were an early love because we lived way closer to Shea and that's where I saw my first MLB game(s) live. But yeah. Contract the Mets already.
I was gonna say "cheap-ish MLB talent," but same idea. BVW seems like he might be a Preller/DiPoto-type GM.I have zero confidence that they can pull this off, but the general plan kind of makes sense:
1) Trade prospects plus the Jay Bruce contract for Cano and Diaz.
2) Trade Syndergaard for prospects.
3) Sign a FA SP to replace Syndergaard.
Yeah, if you squint I can see it. But then this also feels like a lot of wheel-spinning--Cano can still hit a bit but seems very close to needing a 1B mitt with no DH spot for later in the contract, and who knows what age 36+ year old Cano without PEDs even is.I have zero confidence that they can pull this off, but the general plan kind of makes sense:
1) Trade prospects plus the Jay Bruce contract for Cano and Diaz.
2) Trade Syndergaard for prospects.
3) Sign a FA SP to replace Syndergaard.
Yeah, if you squint I can see it. But then this also feels like a lot of wheel-spinning--Cano can still hit a bit
I'm not pretending he's Pablo Sandoval.We need to stop pretending that he's Pablo Sandoval.
I’m a Richards fan. That could be a huge steal for this up and coming team.Garrett Richards to the Padres for 2/15.
Are they still handcuffed financially by the Madoff thing? I have trouble understanding how they are still so perpetually broke and why MLB hasn’t forced the Wilpon’s to sell.Yeah, if you squint I can see it. But then this also feels like a lot of wheel-spinning--Cano can still hit a bit but seems very close to needing a 1B mitt with no DH spot for later in the contract, and who knows what age 36+ year old Cano without PEDs even is.
If you can upgrade the prospects coming in via Syndergaard over those going out to get Diaz in the deal I guess it could be worse. But that's also what I mean--the Mets just seem to have this way of kicking the can down the road and only very occasionally sticking their heads above water.
But yeah, I don't think this is happening anyway.
This is the great mystery to me too, I'm not sure. But they always seem to be robbing Peter to pay Paul, spending on middling returns when they do and undergoing machinations that seem to leave them where they started albeit with a "name" they can sell tickets to.Are they still handcuffed financially by the Madoff thing? I have trouble understanding how they are still so perpetually broke and why MLB hasn’t forced the Wilpon’s to sell.
That wasn't aimed just at you, and it was purposely hyperbolic, but you did call him a corpse, and then your concession was that he can still hit "a bit". Maybe I'm being pedantic, but he can hit a lot more than a bit. He's still a very good player, and is remarkably durable. I don't want to take on 100% of his deal because, like everyone else, I don't think can sustain it for a long enough period of time, but there is definitely a price point where it makes sense. But people are acting like it's an absurd suggestion without knowing the details.I'm not pretending he's Pablo Sandoval.
I tried to answer this about 15 posts up, but I wouldn’t expect overarching logic or a wise plan while the Wilpons are in charge.They still may Thor which makes the Cano deal more confusing. To me anyway. Are the going for it? Are they rebuilding? Are they trying to "win the backpage?"
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/11/latest-on-noah-syndergaard.html
Impossible to say without knowing the financials. If the Mets are dumping Bruce and getting Seattle to take a large portion of Cano, it may be OK. If it's 10 mil of Cano? Not good. 70 mil of Cano? Good.Bad for whom? starting to like the Mariners' side more and more.
Bad for the Mets.Bad for whom? starting to like the Mariners' side more and more.