Atlanta's defense...is not good. I'm excited about the Hawks' offensive outlook; the defense, not so much.Ended up winning 149-113. That's a lot of points.
Are we just saying dunking? Kobe..ok, Wade.. ok..Vince carter and TMac ? PP has an nba title and to me those last two just aren’t comparable. Also, if Pierce had had Shaq instead of Antoine? I do think he’s right.. even as it was if Perkins hadn’t got hurt or the end of game seven been called fairly or the heat not been given 45 free throws or Rondo had his elbow injured he could have had one or two more. I think you may even be forgetting how good he was in his prime.Paul Pierce has been the top trending topic on Twitter for almost 24 hours because of his Wade comments. Pierce is way better than the average online fan thinks of him but not as good as he remembers himself.
I anticipated that his reputation would fade because he didn't play a lot of marquee games in his prime, he was a Kobe rival, and his highlights aren't as flashy as Kobe, T-Mac, Wade, and Vince.
There's been some debate on Sexton on Twitter, I can't remember who so I I can't find the tweets to link, but to summarize the doubters: His advanced numbers are very, very bad (second worst among qualifieds in both RPM and PIPM, behind Kevin Knox) despite shooting very (and likely unsustainably) well from three this year.Collin Sexton's last 27 games: 35.3 minutes, .473/.435/.827, 21.4 points, 3.0 assists, 2.8 rebounds, 0.6 steals. Up to .430/.411/.841, 16.7 points, 2.9 assists, 2.9 rebounds for the year. He turned 20 in January. The Cavs were probably disappointed landing the 8th pick but Sexton could end up being really good, especially if his play making develops. Collin has the tools to play defense too. Kinda reminds me of Ben Gordon or even Eric Gordon pre injury.
Maybe if PP dislocates Wade's elbow rather than Wade dislocating Rondo's...we might remember things differently... I'm glad Doc gave Wade kudos though, that was awesome.Are we just saying dunking? Kobe..ok, Wade.. ok..Vince carter and TMac ? PP has an nba title and to me those last two just aren’t comparable. Also, if Pierce had had Shaq instead of Antoine? I do think he’s right.. even as it was if Perkins hadn’t got hurt or the end of game seven been called fairly or the heat not been given 45 free throws or Rondo had his elbow injured he could have had one or two more. I think you may even be forgetting how good he was in his prime.
PP wasn't anywhere on the same spectrum of talent as McGrady. He's more accomplished, had the better career, etc. But to classify Tmac as a "dunker" is a damm embarrassment. He was more talented than any of his peers during his era, Kobe included.Are we just saying dunking? Kobe..ok, Wade.. ok..Vince carter and TMac ? PP has an nba title and to me those last two just aren’t comparable. Also, if Pierce had had Shaq instead of Antoine? I do think he’s right.. even as it was if Perkins hadn’t got hurt or the end of game seven been called fairly or the heat not been given 45 free throws or Rondo had his elbow injured he could have had one or two more. I think you may even be forgetting how good he was in his prime.
I have no idea why Wade hasn't been called out more for his blatant attempts to injure other players by other players or ex-players. That stuff should be on video repeat. Wade should have played in the 80s when what he's done was more typical..and could have received the same in return. Imagine McHale clotheslining him as he comedown the lane.. now there's a video game idea.Maybe if PP dislocates Wade's elbow rather than Wade dislocating Rondo's...we might remember things differently... I'm glad Doc gave Wade kudos though, that was awesome.
That dude is such a dirty piece of shit. He's nowhere near PP. He 100% intentionally hurt Rondo and Rondo still almost beat them with one arm. He's a clown.
yeah.. I was being unfair, but when we talk highlights.. do you remember any McGrady highlights off the top of your head?PP wasn't anywhere on the same spectrum of talent as McGrady. He's more accomplished, had the better career, etc. But to classify Tmac as a "dunker" is a damm embarrassment. He was more talented than any of his peers during his era, Kobe included.
yeah.. I was being unfair, but when we talk highlights.. do you remember any McGrady highlights off the top of your head?
I also admit that my memory is failing and I recall more Pierce highlights only because I follow the C's.
edit: I just watched some highlights on youtube and apparently they seem to mainly concentrate on dunks for all. McGrady is far more athletic. What I've always liked about Pierce is although he seemed a little less athletically gifted he made the absolute most out of his talent.
It exploded pretty quickly on Instagram as soon as Pierce made the soundbite.I think it’s trending because Wade’s wife, Gabrielle Union, made a stink about it.
How many more open threes would Pierce would have had if he’d had Shaq or LeBron on his team? It’s hard for me to see past my hate for Wade and the shear amount of undeserved foul calls he’s received over various playoff series (Vs. the Mavericks for instance). I feel like he’s been shoved down the nba fan’s throats while Pierce was willing some mediocre teams into the playoffs for most of his prime and getting a bit overlooked. I think Pierce is the better overall player, but I also know I’m 100% biased.It exploded pretty quickly on Instagram as soon as Pierce made the soundbite.
Great post, Euclis. Vince has the highlights but Pierce was the better player, McGrady was on another level before he got hurt though.
I think the Pierce and Wade debate is closer than most average fans. Their primes are comparable, neither have an MVP season, and I think Pierce is correct that if you swap circumstances and give him Shaq early and Lebron+Bosh late he could very well have more than Wade's 3 rings.
Does anyone else specifically remember never being worried about Wade taking the last shot? Especially when it was likely/needed to be a 3? (He is a career .292 from deep) Moreso in the later years, but he just never struck fear into me there.
This post rules.I have no idea why Wade hasn't been called out more for his blatant attempts to injure other players by other players or ex-players. That stuff should be on video repeat. Wade should have played in the 80s when what he's done was more typical..and could have received the same in return. Imagine McHale clotheslining him as he comedown the lane.. now there's a video game idea.
Pierce’s teams also had a bunch of bad luck injuries, but McGrady himself def had a lot of bad luck in the injury dept.Three memories come immediately to mind, only one of which is a dunk:
It all depends on how you view prime vs longevity. McGrady undoubtedly was stronger in his prime (McGrady made 1st or 2nd team all NBA 5 times to just once for Pierce, and McGrady had 6 top ten finishes in MVP voting to again just one for Pierce), but Pierce's far longer career (400 more games) and postseason success (by my count Pierce won 15 playoff series, all but the last as a top 3 piece. McGrady won exactly one playoff series, in his 12th season) certainly draw him even. McGrady's career is sadly defined by bad luck injuries (Grant Hill's ankle, Yao Ming's feet, his own back), but he was neck and neck with Kobe for best wing in the league for 5-6 years until LeBron really blossomed. That's rarified air that Pierce just never got to.
This post rules.
Wade getting a pass for his dirty antics is classic NBA revisionist history. That said, most of the players seem to love him but maybe its because of all of his success.
Wade was undeniably great (I ride or die for the Truth as he is one of my favorite athletes ever) which makes his filthy play all the more infuriating. Good for Pierce in tweaking him - PP had his flaws but unlike Wade, he wasn't out to maim other guys.
If you search Twitter on Sexton BPM you will find some of the posts, including the one below. He also has a terrible DRtg.There's been some debate on Sexton on Twitter, I can't remember who so I I can't find the tweets to link, but to summarize the doubters: His advanced numbers are very, very bad (second worst among qualifieds in both RPM and PIPM, behind Kevin Knox) despite shooting very (and likely unsustainably) well from three this year.
While there's definitely reasons to take bad RPM and PIPM numbers for young rookies on bad teams with a significant grain of salt, Sexton has two big red flags. The first you alluded to- he's a very poor passer. Assist% = 14.9. Here's a list of all guards with a Usage% > 25, and an Assist% < 15:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&qual=mp_per_g_req&c1stat=ast_pct&c1comp=lt&c1val=15&c2stat=usg_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=25&order_by=ws
Virtually none of the other guys are lead guards. If he's going to distribute like Buddy Hield and CJ McCollum, he'd better shoot like them too. Even with his impressive numbers from downtown this year, he's still only at 52% TS.
The other issue is his really low steal rate. His Steal% is 0.8%. Here's a list of all guards with Steal% < 1%:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&qual=pts_per_g_req&c1stat=stl_pct&c1comp=lt&c1val=1&order_by=ws
It's basically Nash, Parker and a bunch of spot-up shooters.
He'll obviously improve. His shot has been much better than expected, and he's already shown he can fill it up, but the lack of assists and steals point to concerns about his decision-making/court awareness. Ben Gordon is a pretty good comp, looking at his numbers, but if feels like most people are (or were) projecting him as a lead guard (there were a bunch of De'Aaron Fox comps, who was at Ast% = 24.6 and Steal% = 1.7 in his rookie season, for comparison) and he's have to do a ton of developing to get him there. It may be a matter of expectations skewing my view though- if I had viewed him as a shooting guard going into the season, I might be rosier on his outlook.
I'll take a chance on having to play them in the second round instead of the Bucks.While being focused on the Celtics I haven't given the 8th seed in the East much thought. But after watching those Wade dirty play clips I want the Heat and Wade out.
Or at least injuring the Greek Freak or someone elseI'll take a chance on having to play them in the second round instead of the Bucks.
Pierce 19 seasons 19.7 ppg, 6.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists.Paul Pierce has been the top trending topic on Twitter for almost 24 hours because of his Wade comments. Pierce is way better than the average online fan thinks of him but not as good as he remembers himself.
I anticipated that his reputation would fade because he didn't play a lot of marquee games in his prime, he was a Kobe rival, and his highlights aren't as flashy as Kobe, T-Mac, Wade, and Vince.
Best case for Pierce is about even imo. Even as a Celtics lifer you have to be ridiculously biased to not acknowledge Wade's greatness while spending the second half of his career playing with a bum knee to boot. Without the Ray Allen trade to lure KG here it wouldn't even be a conversation either so yeah he kinda deserves taking some heat for his comments.Wade definitely had a better peak -- those two pre-Lebron seasons were ridiculous -- but Pierce was rock solid for so long and was a horse to boot.
I'd call them about even.
Would be a real shame if we ran the Red Claws out there against Orlando tonight and Washington on Tuesday, given our picks' status...Pacers lose. #4 seed goes to the Celtics
Time for some TimeLord.Would be a real shame if we ran the Red Claws out there against Orlando tonight and Washington on Tuesday, given our picks' status...
They should sign some SoSHers. I used to play pick up with Mike Zarren, he knows what I can do.Would be a real shame if we ran the Red Claws out there against Orlando tonight and Washington on Tuesday, given our picks' status...
I just want to see BenHogan on the floor with Aron Baynes at the same time, to hear what he'd be yelling.They should sign some SoSHers. I used to play pick up with Mike Zarren, he knows what I can do.
more like "should I pick up Morris's man on defense or is it your turn Aron?!"I just want to see BenHogan on the floor with Aron Baynes at the same time, to hear what he'd be yelling.
"what do you mean, Al Horford has the night off?!", is my guess.
My guess is those votes came from Milwaukee.One quick note, though: Semi Ojeleye? Who did he hurt and why would anyone consider him overrated? That anonymous grudge is perhaps more noteworthy—and definitely more funny—than the top of the list.
I strongly agree on Draymond.Anonymous NBA players poll.
Most overrated: Draymond and Westbrook.
Tied for 10th (among others): Kyrie, Tatum, and Semi. With only 47 votes, these guys only got 2 votes, but who the hell would vote for Semi here? Jokic and Klay also got 2 votes.
Jokic? Klay? Okay NBA dudes. Seems like some jealousy in there.
My guess is those votes came from Milwaukee.
You think Jokic is overrated? Interesting.I strongly agree on Draymond.
I agree on “Regular Season” Kyrie.
I agree on Tatum.
I agree on Jokic.
I agree on Butler, Wiggins,
I strongly DISagree on Klay as I feel he’s held back on this team.
I strongly disagree on Simmons and Harden.
I’m torn on Westbrook since he’s viewed so polarizing.
I have no idea why Semi is even in the conversation but I’d tend to agree since he’s not looking like much of an NBA player.