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Bello barely graduated or he would assuredly be in the top 50 as well
Bello barely graduated or he would assuredly be in the top 50 as well
Plenty of the top 100 will graduate and the Sox have a few that will take their place- obviously pending their ‘23 performance- but Yorke and Mata is the most likelyI'm looking forward to seeing them play, but this will look much less impressive soon as Casas and Yoshida won't be considered prospects much longer.
Assuming they keep progressing Yorke and Mikey Romero could reach the top 100 soon.I'm looking forward to seeing them play, but this will look much less impressive soon as Casas and Yoshida won't be considered prospects much longer.
He turns 30 this summer and already has a giant MLB contract, whatever rule keeps him eligible for BA's rankings should be fixed.Not sure what their definition of a prospect is but Yoshida has played the last 6 full years in the Japanese major leagues. I understand he's never played here and maybe that's the definition but there should at least be some kind of asterisk.
Nonetheless, seeing him ranked that low seems kind of surprising.Not sure what their definition of a prospect is but Yoshida has played the last 6 full years in the Japanese major leagues. I understand he's never played here and maybe that's the definition but there should at least be some kind of asterisk.
Yeah no shit. How much better is Casas?Nonetheless, seeing him ranked that low seems kind of surprising.
My man, having prospects graduate to be successful major leaguers is quite literally the point.I'm looking forward to seeing them play, but this will look much less impressive soon as Casas and Yoshida won't be considered prospects much longer.
Yes, obviously, and I think that's implicitly acknowledged in my post. We're not actually in disagreement. Like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing them play. All I'm really saying is that this ranking of our top prospects among the league's isn't terribly exciting to me (as a ranking of prospects) when 40% of our guys on the list are not really prospects in the way we commonly think of them given that they're anticipated to break camp as starters on the ML club this year.My man, having prospects graduate to be successful major leaguers is quite literally the point.
Yorke looked like absolute and complete dogshit last year. He's a $5 scratch-off ticket at this point. Definitely should not be penciled into any major league lineup, even in a fever dream, unless he shows and sustains something different in 2023.Curious about the timeline for potentially seeing these guys in Fenway?
Here's a rough stab at it:
2023: Bello and Casas start the season with the Sox, maybe Valdez, Walter, German, Mata throughout the year, Rafaela at the end of the summer?
2024: Ideally, Rafaela takes over as full time CF, not sure where Lugo would fit, but he could be a part of the plan. Maybe Meyer and Yorke in the late summer? Maybe Hickey gets a look?
2025: Meyer at SS, Yorke, Gonzalez, Paulino, Hickey
2026: Bleis, Jordan, Romero, Bonaci.
It can "look much less impressive" but there are degrees there--if it looks that way because the players suck, it's one thing. If it looks that way because they are graduating to Boston, that's a good thing.I'm looking forward to seeing them play, but this will look much less impressive soon as Casas and Yoshida won't be considered prospects much longer.
I'd rather have less guys listed with MiL players being promoted to contribute with the big club OR being used in trades to get other good players, as opposed to having 10 of the top 100 with the front office allowing the big club to languish in mediocrity with veterans. There's a balance to be had.Yes, obviously, and I think that's implicitly acknowledged in my post. We're not actually in disagreement. Like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing them play. All I'm really saying is that this ranking of our top prospects among the league's isn't terribly exciting to me (as a ranking of prospects) when 40% of our guys on the list are not really prospects in the way we commonly think of them given that they're anticipated to break camp as starters on the ML club this year.
I guess I should have said the implied part out loud: "if these players perform well, what is the timeline for potentially seeing them in Fenway?"Yorke looked like absolute and complete dogshit last year. He's a $5 scratch-off ticket at this point. Definitely should not be penciled into any major league lineup, even in a fever dream, unless he shows and sustains something different in 2023.
He tore up the AFL as a 20 year old FWIW .342/.424/.526Yorke looked like absolute and complete dogshit last year. He's a $5 scratch-off ticket at this point. Definitely should not be penciled into any major league lineup, even in a fever dream, unless he shows and sustains something different in 2023.
I certainly hope Yorke pans out but I do find myself following Jordan Walker quite a bit. Know we went Yorke to save money and sign other guys but he looks like a potential masher, exactly what we need.A year ago we were drooling over Jeter Downs 880 ops in the AFL. It’s great to see Yorke do well, certainly better than him not, but league OPS was 771, and the league ERA was 5.49 so definitely need to take it with a grain of salt.
I don't recall anyone drooling over Downs performance there. It was more like it got everyone who was really down on him after his first season in Pawtucket to be a little more optimistic that he MAY have figured things out. It was cautious hope, from my recollection, with lots of naysayers (correctly) and a few full on optimists.A year ago we were drooling over Jeter Downs 880 ops in the AFL. It’s great to see Yorke do well, certainly better than him not, but league OPS was 771, and the league ERA was 5.49 so definitely need to take it with a grain of salt.
Come stateside as a teenager and post a .900 OPS as a plus defensive CF.Not that I’m complaining but what has Bleis done to warrant this ranking?
Bleis's numbers in rookie ball compare favorably to Devers' 2014 performance at the same level, although Devers was a year younger. Raffy was BA's #99 prospect pre-2015 so it's a pretty similar situation and without the defensive question marks.Come stateside as a teenager and post a .900 OPS as a plus defensive CF.
Yes. Yorke had a fantastic 19yo season in high A, followed by a blah, injury-plagued season at high A at 20, followed by hitting the crap out of the AFL.He tore up the AFL as a 20 year old FWIW .342/.424/.526
I don't recall anyone drooling over Downs performance there. It was more like it got everyone who was really down on him after his first season in Pawtucket to be a little more optimistic that he MAY have figured things out. It was cautious hope, from my recollection, with lots of naysayers (correctly) and a few full on optimists.
IIRC the Sox Prospects guys mentioned that he has posted MLB-quality exit velos as an 18 yr old.Bleis's numbers in rookie ball compare favorably to Devers' 2014 performance at the same level, although Devers was a year younger. Raffy was BA's #99 prospect pre-2015 so it's a pretty similar situation and without the defensive question marks.
Yorke produced better at Greenville in 2021: 333/406/571 in 84 at bats, than in 2022: 232/303/571 in 337 at bats. So there is some (limited) success at the same level a year prior. Combined with the injuries and a change to his stance in the fall pushing for a better AFL performance (made his stance had regressed because of injuries during 2022), i think there is a case for optimisim in regards to Yorke... not that 2022 should be completely ignored.Would also offer up that Downs' status was in far worse shape than Yorke. Yorke had a bad 2022, with some mitigating circumstances (injuries). Downs just flat out forgot to hit. As bad as Yorke might have been last season, he was still far better than Downs in 21.
Nevermind the fact that Downs was seen as close to MLB ready going into that year, and everyone knew that Yorke had (and clearly still has) a lot of development runway ahead of him.
I’m with you here. Hardly scientific but the way I see it, it's like Mayer has a 80 percent chance of becoming Dansby Swanson and Bleis has a 20 percent chance of becoming Ronald Acuña, Jr.<3 Bleis
141 wRC+ with 0 errors in 310 innings in the Florida Complex League as an 18 y/o (he turns 19 in March), is pretty pretty nice. I probably like him more than I like Mayer, but that's obviously a pretty hot take. Mayer had a 120 wRC+ in the same league as an older 18 y/o in '21, though.
Thanks for this. I’m now really looking to following him this year. Seems like a really exciting talent who could shoot up the rankings fast.
Yet only tied for 3rd in the division. AL East so tough all around.Some context, Red Sox and Yankees are two of the teams with 5:
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Most Top 100 prospects in baseball:
Orioles 8
Guardians 7
Dodgers 6
Mets 6
Rays 6
Three teams tied with 5
This has always been the case. They're one of the few outlets that treat the international players as prospects. I think in their mind it's basically that they haven't satisfied Rookie of the Year requirements.He turns 30 this summer and already has a giant MLB contract, whatever rule keeps him eligible for BA's rankings should be fixed.
So there's one thing about the power projection for Casas that I wonder about, and that Speier tweet about his exit velo jump reminds me of it. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that it's easier to post higher exit velos when you're hitting the ball more on the ground as opposed to in the air. He had around 100 PAs in the MLB last season (admittedly not a great sample size), and while he had a >200 ISO, Savant shows his launch angle was only 2.2 degrees so his expected power was quite low.
SoxProspects: one non-Sox scout said Bleis was the best player in the FCL last year. Comps of Soto and Acuña thrown around. Best Sox OF prospect since Westmoreland. Yes, he’s only 18, but he dazzles.He's an incredible talent. Probably the only true "Five Tool" player in the system. If he cuts down on his K rate even a little bit, he could have a meteoric rise this season. He might be more untouchable than Mayer, in my opinion.
He did. Stats aside, he looked completely fucking lost at the plate last year. My pee pee felt funny like in going down a big hill on a roller coaster sort of way every time I watched him hit. Whatever he had before last year he did not have last year. I hope that he figures it out. It was really, really, really bad.Yorke produced better at Greenville in 2021: 333/406/571 in 84 at bats, than in 2022: 232/303/571 in 337 at bats. So there is some (limited) success at the same level a year prior. Combined with the injuries and a change to his stance in the fall pushing for a better AFL performance (made his stance had regressed because of injuries during 2022), i think there is a case for optimisim in regards to Yorke... not that 2022 should be completely ignored.
Kiley McDaniel, Keith Law, and these dorks all seem to hate Yoshida. Either the Red Sox scouting and analytics department are a bunch of dupes or the team did their due diligence and knew exactly what they wanted to spend for him once he became available (https://theathletic.com/4029222/2022/12/24/red-sox-pursuit-masataka-yoshida/)Nonetheless, seeing him ranked that low seems kind of surprising.
Completely fair, 2022 was not good. But comparing him to an older and more experienced and fading Downs isn't as straightforward as original poster insinuated. He might be blowing up - but I think we need more than one down year.He did. Stats aside, he looked completely fucking lost at the plate last year. My pee pee felt funny like in going down a big hill on a roller coaster sort of way every time I watched him hit. Whatever he had before last year he did not have last year. I hope that he figures it out. It was really, really, really bad.
How does your pee pee feel heading into this year? In general.He did. Stats aside, he looked completely fucking lost at the plate last year. My pee pee felt funny like in going down a big hill on a roller coaster sort of way every time I watched him hit. Whatever he had before last year he did not have last year. I hope that he figures it out. It was really, really, really bad.
This is a good post, Yoshida will likely end up as very strong evidence one way or the other on Bloom's BOS career in the end, not just Yoshida in a vacuum but Yoshida at 5/90 vs Benintendi at 5/75. Both fulltime LFers, Benintendi is 13 months younger, better defensively and coming off repeated wrist injuries, Yoshida is healthy. I definitely think the Benintendi deal is going to blow up on CHW quickly, I have no idea on Yoshida.Kiley McDaniel, Keith Law, and these dorks all seem to hate Yoshida. Either the Red Sox scouting and analytics department are a bunch of dupes or the team did their due diligence and knew exactly what they wanted to spend for him once he became available (https://theathletic.com/4029222/2022/12/24/red-sox-pursuit-masataka-yoshida/)
Not saying there's 100% chance he earns this contract but there's a reasonable chance we're seeing this as a great signing in 3-4 years. I'd also like to know how many 87th overall prospects have projections like this: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-contact-wizard-is-here-to-help-the-red-sox-and-their-outfield/
That's 48 players of the top 100 are on just 8 teams with 52 players spread among 22 teams. That feels like an unusually high concentration of the best prospects on a small number of organizations.Some context, Red Sox and Yankees are two of the teams with 5:
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Most Top 100 prospects in baseball:
Orioles 8
Guardians 7
Dodgers 6
Mets 6
Rays 6
Three teams tied with 5
Middle of the order bats at two of the the most important defensive positions makes roster construction a lot easier.<3 Bleis
141 wRC+ with 0 errors in 310 innings in the Florida Complex League as an 18 y/o (he turns 19 in March), is pretty pretty nice. I probably like him more than I like Mayer, but that's obviously a pretty hot take. Mayer had a 120 wRC+ in the same league as an older 18 y/o in '21, though.
Kiley McDaniel, Keith Law, and these dorks all seem to hate Yoshida. Either the Red Sox scouting and analytics department are a bunch of dupes or the team did their due diligence and knew exactly what they wanted to spend for him once he became available (https://theathletic.com/4029222/2022/12/24/red-sox-pursuit-masataka-yoshida/)
Not saying there's 100% chance he earns this contract but there's a reasonable chance we're seeing this as a great signing in 3-4 years. I'd also like to know how many 87th overall prospects have projections like this: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-contact-wizard-is-here-to-help-the-red-sox-and-their-outfield/
Yup. This is a really interesting conversation.This is a good post, Yoshida will likely end up as very strong evidence one way or the other on Bloom's BOS career in the end, not just Yoshida in a vacuum but Yoshida at 5/90 vs Benintendi at 5/75. Both fulltime LFers, Benintendi is 13 months younger, better defensively and coming off repeated wrist injuries, Yoshida is healthy. I definitely think the Benintendi deal is going to blow up on CHW quickly, I have no idea on Yoshida.