Not our Star Blazer: Yamamoto signs with the Dodgers for $325 million, 12 years

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NJ_Sox_Fan

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You're talking past and present, I was addressing the question that you posed about the future, "Who cares if a few end up being not with the money - and really, who knows what the money for SP will look like in 2033?
Fair enough. I don’t really think the Sox would need to go to 420, but I do think they will need to overpay to lure YY away from NY or LA.
 

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Just spend infinity and be done with it. Worry about the end of the deal later.
 

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I get excited every time I see this thread bumped. My brain thinks he signed w the Sox for a second…every time.
 

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I get excited every time I see this thread bumped. My brain thinks he signed w the Sox for a second…every time.
Okay ... you have to know by now that IF they sign him, there would be a mad rush of posters starting new threads, right?
 

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Yeah I didn’t say it made sense. I think it’s a combination of wishful thinking and old age.
 

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Just spend infinity and be done with it. Worry about the end of the deal later.
I hope Breslow knows he'll be completely insulated from blame if he signs one of Yamamoto, Snell or Montgomery and things look rough in a few years. I think about 75 percent of Sox fans think this way (me too) and I can't remember the last time that was the case.
 

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Also wondering if the Sox or Yoshida would describe Boston as the Kyoto of America. I’ve always thought of it that way. He’s from that middle of Japan where he undoubtedly took lots of school trips to Kyoto as a kid. Boston could look pretty faceless to a foreigner but if you put it in terms he can work with, its uniqueness might be easier to access and appreciate.
 

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I hope Breslow knows he'll be completely insulated from blame if he signs one of Yamamoto, Snell or Montgomery and things look rough in a few years. I think about 75 percent of Sox fans think this way (me too) and I can't remember the last time that was the case.
No he won’t.
 

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Also wondering if the Sox or Yoshida would describe Boston as the Kyoto of America. I’ve always thought of it that way. He’s from that middle of Japan where he undoubtedly took lots of school trips to Kyoto as a kid. Boston could look pretty faceless to a foreigner but if you put it in terms he can work with, its uniqueness might be easier to access and appreciate.
I am just curious, what makes you think Boston even remotely resembles Kyoto in a way that would resonate with someone from Japan?
 

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Also wondering if the Sox or Yoshida would describe Boston as the Kyoto of America. I’ve always thought of it that way. He’s from that middle of Japan where he undoubtedly took lots of school trips to Kyoto as a kid. Boston could look pretty faceless to a foreigner but if you put it in terms he can work with, its uniqueness might be easier to access and appreciate.
Boston’s 9 Sister Cities: A Quick Guide
 

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He will get four years like everyone else, and even if he wins a ring, no guarantees he gets a second term.
“Depserate to make a splash, Breslow wildly overspent on a player who had yet to throw one MLB pitch, a deal that will hamstring the team for another 9 years.”

I am not saying it will go that way. But if the deal goes bad and the team can’t overcome it, this 100% is what will be written.
 

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About Kyoto in the article:;
It’s just like Boston! Sure, there are cherry blossoms, but Kyoto has fall foliage to rival even the brightest of Boston’s trees. The leaves begin their transformation in October and peak during the second half of November, when the American season is coming to an end.

I live in Saint Paul, we have great fall foliage too! Eastern Washington state has fabulous foliage. I can see YY setting up home is Steven's Pass soon.
 

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Also wondering if the Sox or Yoshida would describe Boston as the Kyoto of America. I’ve always thought of it that way. He’s from that middle of Japan where he undoubtedly took lots of school trips to Kyoto as a kid. Boston could look pretty faceless to a foreigner but if you put it in terms he can work with, its uniqueness might be easier to access and appreciate.
You want this wicked bad don't you. ;)
 

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I am just curious, what makes you think Boston even remotely resembles Kyoto in a way that would resonate with someone from Japan?
Not the temples but otherwise it’s a very international city largely due to the universities. Size wise too compared to neighboring behemoths. Also it feels much older than other cities because it was spared in the war. Both historical places. Small streets, very walkable. Not completely cut off from nature like NYC or LA. Of course noplace in Japan feels all that much like anywhere in America except Tokyo Disneyland.
 

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But those teams didn’t need to splash out for twelve years to *get the near-term seasons of those pitchers.*

They had lower risk avenues they could pursue.
That's not the point. I'm saying there have been many great pitchers at 25 years old who didn't give their teams 8 prime years. It could be 3 or 4 before they're washed up. Or 20 if you're lucky enough to get a Verlander or Maddux.
 

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Also wondering if the Sox or Yoshida would describe Boston as the Kyoto of America. I’ve always thought of it that way. He’s from that middle of Japan where he undoubtedly took lots of school trips to Kyoto as a kid. Boston could look pretty faceless to a foreigner but if you put it in terms he can work with, its uniqueness might be easier to access and appreciate.
Doshisa U (one of the more venerable universities in Kyoto) is a sister school with Amherst. Probably won't make a difference to Yama so more of a "fun fact."

https://amherststudent-archive.amherst.edu/current/arts/view.php?year=2003-2004&issue=18&section=arts&article=01.html
 

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Andy Martino’s latest: Yankees “like their chances” with Yamamoto and are meeting with him later today. Sounds like it’s down to Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, and Dodgers. He’s heard the Mets and Red Sox will be “financially aggressive”. Mets have yet to make an offer.
https://sny.tv/articles/cautious-optimism-yankees-meet-yamamoto-mets-still-in-race
This seems like the first time a "mainstream" reporter has specifically said the bolded wrt to the Red Sox.
 

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How does it work if they all are?
There's not a group chat auction...Teams present their offers, the agent goes back to the teams the player actually wants to play for, they have an opportunity to respond. I doubt these decisions are made on the margins with back and forths happening based on a couple million bucks.
 

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There's not a group chat auction...Teams present their offers, the agent goes back to the teams the player actually wants to play for, they have an opportunity to respond. I doubt these decisions are made on the margins with back and forths happening based on a couple million bucks.
I wonder if, like a real estate bidding war, it’ll come to a moment of “Highest and Best?” If I’m Breslow, I think about a little escalator clause of say, $15M…
 

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I get excited every time I see this thread bumped. My brain thinks he signed w the Sox for a second…every time.
No offense to them, but I only feel that way for soxhop posts. When I see that name pop up, I expect a news update and have been disappointed!
 

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There's not a group chat auction...Teams present their offers, the agent goes back to the teams the player actually wants to play for, they have an opportunity to respond. I doubt these decisions are made on the margins with back and forths happening based on a couple million bucks.
Yes. I was trying to dispute the notion that the Mets would get the final chance to top everyone else. I understand the NYM have been spending a lot, but the Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox all are rich enough that they can spend whatever they want on Yamamoto.
 

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“Depserate to make a splash, Breslow wildly overspent on a player who had yet to throw one MLB pitch, a deal that will hamstring the team for another 9 years.”

I am not saying it will go that way. But if the deal goes bad and the team can’t overcome it, this 100% is what will be written.
This could turn out to be true. But, if the Red Sox think this way, they will likely never sign any 25 year old stud pitcher again for the same reasons. It wouldn't make sense for anyone like Yamamoto to even consider the Red Sox because they wouldn't be completive with other market participants. Thankfully, we know that to be false, since they have 300+ million on the table per reports. Let's go Sox and get this done so we can enjoy the holidays.
 

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This could turn out to be true. But, if the Red Sox think this way, they will likely never sign any 25 year old stud pitcher again for the same reasons. It wouldn't make sense for anyone like Yamamoto to even consider the Red Sox because they wouldn't be completive with other market participants. Thankfully, we know that to be false, since they have 300+ million on the table per reports. Let's go Sox and get this done so we can enjoy the holidays.

I was not disputing the notion that they should sign him (though at some point the price has to give them reservations). I was disputing the notion that if they did sign him and it went bad, Breslow would get no blame. He will. That shouldn't stop him from making the moves he feels are the correct ones. But for better or for worse, he would get a ton of blame in the scenario.
 

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There's not a group chat auction...Teams present their offers, the agent goes back to the teams the player actually wants to play for, they have an opportunity to respond. I doubt these decisions are made on the margins with back and forths happening based on a couple million bucks.
I think it’s pretty clear that the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and Sox are all finalists, and that SF and Philly might be, too. I say that because it’s been reported that he’s in the process of meeting with the Mets, Yanks, and Sox on their home territory, and because non of these teams has attempted to mitigate the PR damage of an unsuccessful courtship by announcing that they are out.

If those are, in fact, the finalists, then it may well be that they are all acceptable to him and it really will come down to who will pay the most. Of course it’s also possible that one or more are not truly under consideration because he does have a preference, but he wants to keep them in the game to help drive up the price.

However you slice it, though, I don’t think there’s anything at this point to suggest that an extra million here or there will *not* make the difference.
 

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The NYY and LAD are entities unto themselves. The Sox are in pretty typical MLB rebuild probably on the upswing in need of guys like him.
The Mets just spent huge sums and abandoned the plan within a few months. I just dont see a thoughtful player doing anything with the mets other than using them.
 
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