2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

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That is…. Strange.

Sounds like a tank/let’s see how things go without Trae to be honest. I guess he is having surgery so it’s sort maybe legit?

A sprained pinky finger (which is what this essentially is) on your non-shooting hand can almost always just be taped/played through even if the tear is bad. It will scar down well enough. Maybe there is more to the injury than they are letting on, but overall sounds very bizarre.
 

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This is an awful basketball game
The Sixers are UGLY without Embiid, on both ends of the court. If Embiid is out for the year they are 100% sliding into the play-in (about to be 1 game ahead of Indy in 7th and 1.5 ahead of Miami in 8th).

Even with Young out, it's hard to imagine the 9th/10th seeds changing. Chicago is 5 games behind Miami for 8th and Atlanta is 3 games ahead of Brooklyn for 10th. The top 10 in both conferences feels set with 50 days remaining in the regular season.
 

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The Sixers are UGLY without Embiid, on both ends of the court. If Embiid is out for the year they are 100% sliding into the play-in (about to be 1 game ahead of Indy in 7th and 1.5 ahead of Miami in 8th).

Even with Young out, it's hard to imagine the 9th/10th seeds changing. Chicago is 5 games behind Miami for 8th and Atlanta is 3 games ahead of Brooklyn for 10th. The top 10 in both conferences feels set with 50 days remaining in the regular season.
Yea they will likely finish in 9th if Embiid doesn't play again.
 

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Yea they will likely finish in 9th if Embiid doesn't play again.
I don't think they fall that far (6.5 games ahead of the Bulls in 9th, that's a ton of ground to make up with 25/26 games remaining), but if Embiid remains out I have no idea who ends up getting the 8th seed and playing Boston in the first round. Sixers/Bulls/Hawks is thoroughly unimpressive.
 

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I don't think they fall that far (6.5 games ahead of the Bulls in 9th, that's a ton of ground to make up with 25/26 games remaining), but if Embiid remains out I have no idea who ends up getting the 8th seed and playing Boston in the first round. Sixers/Bulls/Hawks is thoroughly unimpressive.
Oh yea, my math is off. Was thinking they would supplant the Bulls in 9th, but didn't take into account that PHI just loses it spot
 

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Almost impossible that they fall out of the top 10, but the Lakers have an incredibly difficult schedule over the next month. Between today and March 26, they play the Suns, Clippers, Nuggets, Thunder, Kings (twice), Bucks (twice), Wolves, Warriors and Pacers. Only easy games in that stretch are Wizards, Hawks and Sixers.
It may not knock them out of the top 10, but it’ll probably put extra mileage on their big 2.
 

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It's so nice that LeBron is immune from techs. Zingis reacted to a much lesser degree last night and got an instant T (deserved).
 

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That is…. Strange.

Sounds like a tank/let’s see how things go without Trae to be honest. I guess he is having surgery so it’s sort maybe legit?

A sprained pinky finger (which is what this essentially is) on your non-shooting hand can almost always just be taped/played through even if the tear is bad. It will scar down well enough. Maybe there is more to the injury than they are letting on, but overall sounds very bizarre.
I read that update and went “Hunh?” All I can think of is that there has to be something else going on or they’re trying to preserve his resale value. Maybe both.
 

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So unfortunate that there are five western teams that are either bad or not trying to win.
With 10 spots it's nearly impossible to not get in the play in if you stay healthy and are actively trying to win. At this point I'm looking forward to a Lakers/Warriors 9/10 matchup, that would easily be the most anticipated play in match up ever.

I don't know if it was mentioned here - Steve Kerr signed a 2/35M extension, making him the highest paid HC ever (by annual pay). He should have to give at least half that to Curry.
 

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He was on the court already. I assume he was suspended for shoving Marshall, right before Marshall put his hands on Butler's throat.
yes—-that had been my guess after it happened, he’s the guy who turned it into a brawl. Should have gotten the most games, but recognition of this suspension is something
 

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yes—-that had been my guess after it happened, he’s the guy who turned it into a brawl. Should have gotten the most games, but recognition of this suspension is something
Best part was Butlers post game conference after where he, with a straight face, blamed Zion for embellishing contact and that “he knew he shouldn’t have done that”

The Heat franchise is an absolute fucking embarrassment to anyone with intelligence.
 

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Do we ultimately want them to end up as 9/10 so one eliminates the other?
Gawd YES!!!!

Watching Bron/AD/Klay/Steph/Dray scratch-n-claw to not get eliminated is a good way to open the playoffs. Then the winner plays another elimination game...brutal

It would be the highest rated Play-In game ever
 

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With 10 spots it's nearly impossible to not get in the play in if you stay healthy and are actively trying to win. At this point I'm looking forward to a Lakers/Warriors 9/10 matchup, that would easily be the most anticipated play in match up ever.
If SAC vaults DAL and PHO (not that unlikely given that SAC is .5 game behind both), the WC play-in would have Curry, Klay, Draymond, LBJ, AD, KD, Luka, Kyrie, Beal, and Booker.

The NBA must be salivating over that.
 

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Well, at least the Warriors pissed of Klay now rather than in a few months. Time to cool off.
 

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Warriors are becoming problematic. I think they’ll crack the West’s top 6.
Not impossible, but to this point they've just been climbing over average at best teams (Utah, Houston, Lakers). To get to the top 6 they have to keep going at their current pace, against legitimately good teams (Dallas, NOP, Phoenix, Sac). They've got a relatively easy schedule by opposing SOS, but they've also got more road games remaining than any team in the league.
 

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Warriors are becoming problematic. I think they’ll crack the West’s top 6.
They will probably lose this game vs Denver then have 4 in a row on the road before back at home vs the Bucks. Do they even go 3-3 over these 6 games?
 

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Jokic with 32/16/16 with 1:45 to go. Absolutely insane.
And he finishes with that, because the game is no longer in doubt. He's averaged 27/16/15 over his last 3 games, which I'm quite sure has never been done before.

All the talk about where exactly Tatum should be in the MVP discussion is fun, but it's missing the forest for the trees. Jokic is gonna run away with it, everyone else (Giannis, Tatum, Luka, SGA) doesn't stand a chance.
 

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And he finishes with that, because the game is no longer in doubt. He's averaged 27/16/15 over his last 3 games, which I'm quite sure has never been done before.
Russ may have at the very least come close during his sicko OKC years especially that one when he has a bunch of 40pt triple doubles. I don't know if they have game by game assist data from early on in Oscar's career but he's the other who could have challenged Jokic's 27/16/15
 

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Russ may have at the very least come close during his sicko OKC years especially that one when he has a bunch of 40pt triple doubles. I don't know if they have game by game assist data from early on in Oscar's career but he's the other who could have challenged Jokic's 27/16/15
They mentioned on the broadcast that no one had ever had 3 straight 14 rebound/14 assist games before this. It's still possible for someone to average better than Jokic over that stretch without having multiple games like that, but pretty difficult. Glancing through Oscar's game logs, he averaged 34/18/13 over 3 games in December 1963 and 32/17/14 in January 1965. Russ had 3 game stretches averaging 27/14/15 and 30/16/12 in 2017, and 20/15/14, 18/13/16 and 22/13/17 in 2019.

Definitely in the ballpark, if not there exactly. It's not just piling up the numbers, it's the insane efficiency: Just 8 turnovers, and a .734 TS%. Scary times.
 

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Russ may have at the very least come close during his sicko OKC years especially that one when he has a bunch of 40pt triple doubles. I don't know if they have game by game assist data from early on in Oscar's career but he's the other who could have challenged Jokic's 27/16/15
The closest you really I could find in Oscar's 1961-62, his triple-double average that seemed forever impossible to duplicate is within his first four games that season: 30.8 PPG, 13.0 RPG, 14.8 APG.

This is oddly not his season with the most 40 point triple doubles that season, in which he had 4 (ditto the year prior). His most in a regular season was 5, in 1963-64. It's notable to me at least that all of them came beginning in his 47th game that season, out of 79 played. Over those 32 games in which he had the five games, Oscar actually didn't average a triple-doubleoverall: 34.1 PPG, 11.9 APG, 9.8 RPG.

Last player with 27.3+ PPG, 16.7+ RPG, and 15.0+ APG in any three-game span? List of one before now. Wilt in March of 1968, incredibly on a back-to-back-to-back, from March 18-20. Final three games of the season too. 33.7 PPG, 25.3 RPG, and 15.0 APG.

The historian in me feels the need to mention the happy ending that we knocked Wilt's Sixers out in the first-ever NBA 3-1 series comeback that year and beat the Lakers in the Finals for the sixth time in six Finals matchups for the cherry on the sundae. :)
 

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The Sixers are UGLY without Embiid, on both ends of the court. If Embiid is out for the year they are 100% sliding into the play-in (about to be 1 game ahead of Indy in 7th and 1.5 ahead of Miami in 8th).

Even with Young out, it's hard to imagine the 9th/10th seeds changing. Chicago is 5 games behind Miami for 8th and Atlanta is 3 games ahead of Brooklyn for 10th. The top 10 in both conferences feels set with 50 days remaining in the regular season.
An annoying plausible scenario is that they fall into the 9-10 spot but start working Embiid back in April and wind up at full strength matched against the C's in round 1. Not that we should be terrified of out-of-shape Embiid, but I'd still rather face, I dunno, the Hawks.
 
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The historian in me feels the need to mention the happy ending that we knocked Wilt's Sixers out in the first-ever NBA 3-1 series comeback that year and beat the Lakers in the Finals for the sixth time in six Finals matchups for the cherry on the sundae. :)
I see what you did here. Wilt was known for happy endings.
 

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Things are getting spicy in Detroit!

View: https://twitter.com/BallySportsDET/status/1762311528248754378?s=20


I watched the play. For sure an absurd non-call. Maybe you don't call it if the ball goes out of bounds afterward, but for Donte to just hit him like a linebacker and then Brunson pick the ball up and go the other way didn't even look like basketball. I don't know why the league would have it out for Detroit, but I do think it's human nature for refs to know Detroit sucks and not give them the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Refs said “we fucked up”. Like that makes a difference. Not like they can go back and replay the game….
QUESTION: On the sequence that ended in the Josh Hart layup to give the Knicks the lead, why was a foul not called when the ball was knocked away from Simone Fontecchio?

WILLIAMS: On that play, the defender’s left hand hits the left hand of Fontecchio while his hand is on the ball. Per rule, that is a legal defensive play. The hand is considered part of the ball.



QUESTION: Why was a foul not called when Donte DiVincenzo made contact with Ausar Thompson near halfcourt with approximately eight seconds to go in the game?

WILLIAMS: Upon postgame review, we determined that Thompson gets to the ball first, and then was deprived of the opportunity to gain possession of the ball. Therefore, a loose ball foul should have been whistled on New York’s Donte DiVincenzo.



QUESTION:
So, if he hadn’t had possession of the ball, could a collision happen there? Would that have been a no foul then? If you had ruled that Thompson didn’t have control of the ball, would that have been a no foul?

WILLIAMS: If the ball is loose, players on both teams have equal opportunity to it. It becomes a matter of who gets there first.
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-the-final-seconds-of-tonights-detroit-pistons-at-new-york-knicks-game/
 

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OMG that was like....egregious? No, that wasn't egregious as egregious isn't a strong enough word for what happened at midcourt. Wow!!
 

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Monty also could/should have called a timeout at some point in that chaos
There really weren’t many chances for him to, Detroit barely possessed the ball. Just about half a second before the, I guess, legal rake across the guy’s hand/arm.
 

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DeAaron Fox and KeeGAN MURray! making things interesting in Sacramento. Cut a 20 point Heat lead to 4 with plenty of time left.