11/20 Celtics vs. Hornets: Where is Thy Sting?

radsoxfan

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Gordon Hayward has been very bad in his last few games, and just generally isnt good anymore. Still always think about what could have been with him and the Celtics. I've seen a few people speculate he could be a mid season trade candidate to a team like Boston, but I'm not sure I see it.

Hauser started older and Hayward certainly had a lot more upside (those data points a bit before game 600 were heading up to a new level)....but at this point Hauser is a lot more useful.



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bellowthecat

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I've seen a few people speculate he could be a mid season candidate to a team like Boston, but I'm not sure I see it.
I had been hoping for years that he'd get bought out late in his contract to return to a more mature Celtics team. However, with his salary it's effectively impossible for the Celtics to acquire him this year under the new CBA rules.
 

astrozombie

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The whole Gordon Hayward experience bummed me out. The injury, then a lot of games where I tried to convince myself he was back (though deep down, I knew that was not true). Then, and this might just be me, but there was a lot anxiety about whether he would opt-in before ultimately opting out and walking away for nothing. It is weird to think I was once excited for this team with Hayward and Kyrie.

ETA: I guess the Cs technically did a sign-and-trade to create a trade exception, but I am not sure how much of it (if any) was even used.
 
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DavidTai

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ETA: I guess the Cs technically did a sign-and-trade to create a trade exception, but I am not sure how much of it (if any) was even used.
I think some of the TPE went to Evan Fournier, which didn't turn into anything (expired TPE), and some went to Josh Richardson, which became Derrick White.
 

MyDaughterLovesTomGordon

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Coach Joe used up a bit of social capital after the game, not impressed with the effort. It will be interesting to see if they come out roaring or if guys aren't super psyched about getting called out.
 

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Coach Joe used up a bit of social capital after the game, not impressed with the effort. It will be interesting to see if they come out roaring or if guys aren't super psyched about getting called out.
They shouldn't need their coach to call them out after that lackluster performance. Pretty sure the Grizzlies came up with every 50/50 ball.
 

Euclis20

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The whole Gordon Hayward experience bummed me out. The injury, then a lot of games where I tried to convince myself he was back (though deep down, I knew that was not true). Then, and this might just be me, but there was a lot anxiety about whether he would opt-in before ultimately opting out and walking away for nothing. It is weird to think I was once excited for this team with Hayward and Kyrie.

ETA: I guess the Cs technically did a sign-and-trade to create a trade exception, but I am not sure how much of it (if any) was even used.
Year 1 was the injury and year 2 he clearly wasn't himself (not much more than a solid 6th man), but year 3 was the most frustrating for me. When he was on the court he played liked a borderline all-star (18/7/4 with solid defense and a TS% of .595), but it was just one bad luck injury after another. He missed 5 weeks with a broken hand and then most of the playoffs with a sprained ankle (different leg than he hurt in year 1). He returned for part of the Miami series in the bubble, but clearly wasn't healthy.

Just a depressing saga from start to finish.
 

benhogan

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There was plenty of hand-wringing around here when Gordon left.

One of Danny's best last acts was avoiding that overpay.

and creating the Hayward TPE which spawned numerous mega threads
 

OnWisc

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I haven’t seen an OKC game this season, but based solely statistical leaderboards shown during Celtics games, Holmgren is ahead of schedule.