11/8 - Giving Sixers fans a case of the Wednesdays

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This has been a difficult game for the Celtics and they have a chance at the end. I like the way they are responding to adversity regardless of the outcome.
 

Deathofthebambino

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Damn, after that pump fake, KP had Tatum wide fucking open and plenty of time. Did not need to rush the 3 there.
 

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Team didnt play well all game and still had a chance to win at the end. Don’t think the sky is falling
 

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This team has some legitimate issues. Mazulla doesn’t seem to have much of an offensive plan out there. Tough to watch the lack of movement. You can run more action than ball screens. 0 off ball movement. Browns handle gets relentlessly attacked to the point he really can’t be trusted to do much but shoot and finish. Poor depth. These last two games have shown what happens when they play real defenses and it’s legitimately concerning.
 

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Open 3 from KP is a great outcome for that possession.

Just short armed it.
agreed—it looked like the play was to get Tatum the ball though.

Scal suggested misdirection—that’s possible and very well acted if so
 

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Team didnt play well all game and still had a chance to win at the end. Don’t think the sky is falling
Sky isn’t falling but even with the improvement in personnel I’m seeing the same stupid shit that caused them trouble last year. Offensive numbers were wildly propped up by games against the dregs of the league. They’ve looked like shit on that end against any team with a pulse.
 

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This team has some legitimate issues. Mazulla doesn’t seem to have much of an offensive plan out there. Tough to watch the lack of movement. You can run more action than ball screens. 0 off ball movement. Browns handle gets relentlessly attacked to the point he really can’t be trusted to do much but shoot and finish. Poor depth. These last two games have shown what happens when they play real defenses and it’s legitimately concerning.
They had a very clear plan, articulated by others in this thread and I believe Scal even referenced it. The 76ers clearly have great rim protection - as they have had as long as Embiid has been there - so they attack from the perimeter. Shots didn't fall. You can make a mountain out of this loss or the approach but I think most 76ers opponents play this way. And Philly is good so it often fails.

I find it interesting that people actually *want* it to be more structural. A loss where shots just didnt fall sucks but its understandable.
 

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Why doesn’t NBA rules allow for a replay on that?

Can’t stop a play, I guess.
 

radsoxfan

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agreed—it looked like the play was to get Tatum the ball though.

Scal suggested misdirection—that’s possible and very well acted if so
I think it’s very rare any of these plays have 1 single “good outcome”, aside from maybe a 0.4 second lob at the basket situation.

Run a bunch of action to get a few of your top guys open and see what the defense gives you.

Maybe KP was an outlet there, who knows. But the result was an open 3 from a good shooter, definitely no reason to complain about the last play.
 

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They have great individual talents but they need better plans against good D if they are going to win it all. Steph Curry is a shooting god but he and his teammates still work like crazy to get him open looks.

Not that our offense needs to work the same exact way but there needs to be some humility that they won’t 1 on 1 their way to a title.

This isn’t even a critique of the last two games per se, just a reality in general and a question they’ll have to answer in the spring. At this point they can’t be surprised and shook anymore when defenders don’t roll out the red carpet for them.
 

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Good news is they have 75 games to figure out how to play together on offense. Bad news is they’re going to be at a coaching disadvantage in every playoff series and I’m not sure the current staff can convince guys to stay focused for 48 minutes and minimize their weaknesses.
 

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I will await the advanced stats from this game but the C's had good looks tonight from what I saw. Philly played great defense and rotated well but there were plenty of wide open misses.

If the C's shoot league average from three tonight - they win the game. If they shoot their season average from deep its likely not even close.
 

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I will await the advanced stats from this game but the C's had good looks tonight from what I saw. Philly played great defense and rotated well but there were plenty of wide open misses.

If the C's shoot league average from three tonight - they win the game. If they shoot their season average from deep its likely not even close.
And if that happens, nobody's bitching about Mazzulla or his assistants.
 

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They had a very clear plan, articulated by others in this thread and I believe Scal even referenced it. The 76ers clearly have great rim protection - as they have had as long as Embiid has been there - so they attack from the perimeter. Shots didn't fall. You can make a mountain out of this loss or the approach but I think most 76ers opponents play this way. And Philly is good so it often fails.

I find it interesting that people actually *want* it to be more structural. A loss where shots just didnt fall sucks but its understandable.
We just don’t have great personnel for a free flowing offense - only a few guys really seem to have the vision to thrive out of structure.Other than white, all these guys have a lot of ball stopping in them. Just way too much one pass and make your iso move. These guys are all used to having the ball in their hands a lot more than they have this year, so it’s my hope as they learn to figure each other out more the ball movement increases as the trust increases. But so far the offense looks pretty ugly against any D that mucks up the first action. Pass the ball, have 2nd options, off ball movement, anything to help when the on ball pick and role or iso gets thwarted.
 

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It’s game 7, no need to panic. The Sixers are a lot better without harden tho. It’s very annoying they gave him what he wanted. I wanted to see him drag them down another year.
 

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16 more minutes and 0 points for PP. Hard to believe how much of a rut he is in.

He is putting up some PJ Tucker stat lines.
 

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I feel like I was watching a different game. Celtics offense (up to the point of shooting) looked good for long stretches of the game. Good ball movement, found a lot of open shots. They just bricked them. And then they started panicking, ISOing into traffic with their head down and that’s when they lost it. Timberwolves, Knicks and 76ers are all like top 5 defenses so far. 19 free throws was an almost season low (7 against WAS). White probably suffering from a lack of sleep and lost rhythm, 3/11 from three and 33% from the field. Close loss to a good team on the road.
 

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We’ve played the “if they just shot average on good looks…” game for a couple years now. I’m all good with that logic. I’m not saying it isn’t technically accurate but I’d hope the team does not hold that expectation because it hasn’t worked yet.

Again, not really a specific commentary of two close road losses in November. But there’s stuff we won’t know about this team for real until spring so all we have to go on is a small sample and prior history.
 

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This team has some legitimate issues. Mazulla doesn’t seem to have much of an offensive plan out there. Tough to watch the lack of movement. You can run more action than ball screens. 0 off ball movement. Browns handle gets relentlessly attacked to the point he really can’t be trusted to do much but shoot and finish. Poor depth. These last two games have shown what happens when they play real defenses and it’s legitimately concerning.
Sky is falling.
 

Deathofthebambino

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I will await the advanced stats from this game but the C's had good looks tonight from what I saw. Philly played great defense and rotated well but there were plenty of wide open misses.

If the C's shoot league average from three tonight - they win the game. If they shoot their season average from deep its likely not even close.
Mazzula just got into a back and forth about the number of 3's they took during his presser.

Here's the reality:

The C's went 15/47 from deep for 31.9% and 45 points.

They went 21/43 from inside the arc for 49% and that translates to 42 points.

Tatum and KP were 2/6, Jaylen was 2/7, Pritch was 0/2, White was 3/11 and Al was 1/6 from deep. Most of those looks were pretty damn open. If they make just 2 or 3 more of those open looks and if KP converts on 2 dunks, this game is completely different.

It's so, so far away from worrying. Just stay healthy. It's all I really care about.
 

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Listening to the Sixers broadcast, I've never heard an opposing broadcast team so quickly and thoroughly bash a call that favored their own team. Ridiculous.
I almost always listen to opposing broadcasts of Celtics games and I noticed this too.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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The rim hanging technicals have quickly overtaken the NHL puck over glass delay of game as the worst call in sports. They really need to cool it.