The Celtics will be better after the Chicago and Indy games.
The pressure was higher and they could learn from it
The pressure was higher and they could learn from it
12/4 - @Pacers - Tyrese Haliburton has an evil last name
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These guys have a PhD in high pressure losses at this point, not sure what else there is to learn. Wasn’t that the slogan from last year? “We learned our lesson”?
Tatum doesn't seem 100% to me. He had largely knocked off all of the ref haranguing earlier this season, now it's worse than ever. He was pursuing refs two and three plays later. That's not winning basketball. There are times when it seems like Tatum thinks he deserves to be able to just beat guys without having to actually beat them. Sometimes he beats them anyway.
When you’re competitive in basically every game, every loss is going to feel like a high-pressure choke. Yes there’s a history here, but, I don’t know. They aren’t going to be able to prove anything until May/June and until then we just have to deal with them not playing perfect basketball all the time and still being top 2 or 3 in the league all year.
The league still hasn't beaten the Duke out of him. Top 10 whiner in the league.
It probably doesn't really hurt him, but it certainly doesn't help him getting marginal calls.
This sounds dramatic, but isn’t it true of every team each year, but one? I have a hard time equating this game with an elimination game, too.
I’m talking about his mechanics and release. They looked incredibly unorthodox, at least on my phone
Definitely unorthodox. Shooting pocket starts low, out in front but Hali gets the benefit of being 6'5" & gathers quickly.
He has hit them at 41.2% over his career & is up to 44.7% on 8.8 3PA/g this season.
Every NBA season (4) over 40% and was over 40% both seasons at Iowa State. His stroke is consistent and grooved.
He's having a monster, breakout season averaging 27ppg + 11.8 asst/gm
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kJ4AKtfZBs
I know everyone loves to hate on Duke, but I do not remember Tatum whining, like, at all when he was at Duke.
Bummed the Celtics lost, but at the same time Haliburton played like someone possessed and I have to give him credit for that. The Pacers looked dialed-in and executed.
The recap of the game from The Ringer gets into the evolution of his shot:
When he was growing up, Haliburton’s lack of strength compromised his form—he needed to dip the ball down to his knees to create enough leverage to shoot. To adapt to higher levels of the game, he’d torture himself with Mikan drills right around the basket, instilling muscle memory to keep the ball above his shoulders. From there, he had the mechanisms to aim and fire, eliminating the dip by keeping the ball high as a starting point on his shot. Over the years, he’s found new ways of getting the ball into his pocket—sometimes even allowing a dribble to bound up directly into his shooting motion—with a quick release of the ball occurring before the apex of his jump. It’s not for everyone, but it works for him. It’s beautiful, if only in its specific economy of motion.
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/12/5/23988942/tyrese-haliburton-indiana-pacers-nba-in-season-tournament
Below is a breakdown of his shot.
I didn't realize he turns his left hand into a claw and uses his thumb to push the basketball. I also didn't realize how much side-spin he has on the ball. Last guy I noticed with that much side spin was Michael Young and when he got to the NBA, his bad mechanics were exposed.
It's actually kind of a minor miracle Haliburton's shot is so effective. Would love to hear the backstory behind how he developed his shot.
edit: he developed his shot when he was young because he wasn't strong enough to shot the ball the "correct" way. Sometimes it works out. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2022/09/29/tyrese-haliburton-pacers-shooting-form-indiana-2022-nba-roster-schedule/69517848007/
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMrZiotnDj0