Good for him. Most coaches hang around far too long and kill the program in the process (Hi Mack Brown!).
They just spent a ton of money renovating the stadium. That's not going to happen, and the stadium hardly seems like one of the bigger problems with that program.jsinger121 said:Al Golden Fired.
http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=210450744
This is a tougher job than in the past. The facilities are crap. Sun Life Stadium is 35 minutes away. They really need to get an on campus stadium to have any chance about seriously competing again.
WayBackVazquez said:They just spent a ton of money renovating the stadium. That's not going to happen, and the stadium hardly seems like one of the bigger problems with that program.
The ironic thing is in a couple years there will be two stadiums on the old Orange Bowl site, neither a good fit for the Canes.jsinger121 said:
It's not even the Hurricanes own stadium and they didn't pay for any of the renovations. They have zero ownership interest in it. They need there own on campus stadium badly not one that is 35-40 minutes away from students.
Agree that the entire program needs to be looked at top to bottom from coaching to facilities to OOC scheduling. Golden walked into a mess and couldn't fix it. They need to be on campus, upgrade practice facilities and get the right guy to take that program and move it forward. Problem is there are at least 2 programs looking for coaches that care better deals both as to facilities and pay (both have the initials USC).jsinger121 said:
It's not even the Hurricanes own stadium and they didn't pay for any of the renovations. They have zero ownership interest in it. They need there own on campus stadium badly not one that is 35-40 minutes away from students.
I just don't see how an off-campus stadium is to blame for crappy teams. They played off campus when they were good, and when there is a decent team the students (who are a small percentage of a good home crowd anyway) will come. If the location prevents alumni (= donors) from getting to games, I get it. But off campus doesn't seem to hurt UCLA, for example.jsinger121 said:It's not even the Hurricanes own stadium and they didn't pay for any of the renovations. They have zero ownership interest in it. They need there own on campus stadium badly not one that is 35-40 minutes away from students.
He wants to get back to NYU-Stony Brook University to finish up his Master's.canderson said:George O'Leary (UCF) retired effective immediately today
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13969897/george-oleary-ucf-knights-head-coach
Maybe he did this to take the Miami job! (I kid, I kid)
1. Notice how all most of the former Miami Hurricanes players who went public with their frustrated tweets about the 58-0 loss to Clemson on Saturday are middle-aged? Retired from the NFL? Miami’s problems are deeper than the head coach. Firing Al Golden isn’t going to change what ails the ‘Canes. Miami can no longer live on local talent alone, not when that talent is lured away by lavish locker rooms, indoor practice facilities and that most basic of baubles, the big, loud, filled-to-the-top, on-campus stadium. The game has changed, and Miami has given all of college football a 20-year head start.
And KU had a great record when he left there too. This is probably more of a character issue again.canderson said:Iowa State fired Mark Mangino (was their OC) today. Which is really weird since their offense has been quite good.
WayBackVazquez said:Far be it fro' me to disagree with Ivan Maisel, but Miami has continued to bring in top 10ish recruiting classes most years. The problem is not being able to recruit talent, it's coaching it.
It's a smallish private school with an endowment dwarfed not only by those at its public university football peers, but also by those of places like Boston College and Vanderbilt. Spending a half billion dollars on a football stadium when your university has an endowment of only $800 million, and when you're already locked into a multi-decade lease than will cost you a ton of money to get out of would be criminal malfeasance.
When you only have 16,000 students, the idea that somehow building a new stadium will fill it to the brim like its Ohio State, regardless of the product on the field is really silly.
You really don't think they can ever hope to compete again without a new stadium? So if Nick Saban, or Urban Meyer, or Jim Harbaugh took over tomorrow, they'd all be destined for failure?
ethangl said:Please, please let this happen:
(Ed) Reed, a two-time All-American for the Hurricanes (2000, '01), said in an interview with "The Rich Eisen Show" on Fox Sports radio that although he has no coaching experience, he'd be willing to listen if the school called with interest.
"I would definitely listen, would go and talk and want to know what they're looking to do. I would entertain it. I'm at a different place in my life right now, working out, training, coaching from afar, helping guys out, high school, college and pro alike. I definitely would entertain it," he said.
soxfan121 said:
Well, that would be good for recruiting, right? I mean, he'd definitely need an assistant HC to teach him the ropes of the day-to-day responsibilities, but I can imagine an NFL GOAT would have some serious gravitas when sitting down with a recruit and selling the U.
ethangl said:
I believe that, if this was an effective tactic, you would see every major program place an alum of similar stature in a very-well-compensated "closing" role.
It hasn't been done in football (as far as I know), but this exact same line of thinking led to Clyde Drexler getting the Houston job. Does his, ahem, success prove that Reed couldn't succeed? No, but it shows that being an alum and gravitas don't mean as much as you might think.
I think if Reed was serious about coaching, he would be... coaching. Jim Harbaugh coached at WKU for 7 or 8 years before getting the QBC job in Oakland.
Kremlin Watcher said:
Texas has employed, in both official and unofficial capacities, former players to have a role in recruiting and other aspects of the program. Earl, Ricky, and Vince all have worked for or work for the athletic department in some way. It's an important thing at Texas and seems to work well.
Saw it too. That was a completely raw display of emotion. The man was devastated and he didn't try to hide it. You will rarely see anyone speak from the heart so directly.Infield Infidel said:Just watched the Jerry Kill presser, one of the most emotional sports press conferences I've ever seen. He was crying off and on, they passed him a box of tissues and he just shook his head and didn't take any.
He said had two seizures yesterday, decided to retire, but still went out and coached after the seizures just to make sure. He said he's gotten no more than 3 hours of sleep the last few weeks, and his wife stays up to watch him and said that's no way to live. He said he was thinking about Flip Saunders dying at 60, and him being 54, he doesn't want to go out coaching. He just can't coach the way he wants to, doesn't want to coach from a booth or take it easier or take more time off. Doesn't want to steal from the university, he's leaving a whole lot of money, but it's not worth his health.
From everything I've ever heard about him, he seems like an incredibly good and stand-up guy. Terrible his health has caused this but I'm glad he recognized it before it was too late.Infield Infidel said:Just watched the Jerry Kill presser, one of the most emotional sports press conferences I've ever seen. He was crying off and on, they passed him a box of tissues and he just shook his head and didn't take any.
He said had two seizures yesterday, decided to retire, but still went out and coached after the seizures just to make sure. He said he's gotten no more than 3 hours of sleep the last few weeks, and his wife stays up to watch him and said that's no way to live. He said he was thinking about Flip Saunders dying at 60, and him being 54, he doesn't want to go out coaching. He just can't coach the way he wants to, doesn't want to coach from a booth or take it easier or take more time off. Doesn't want to steal from the university, he's leaving a whole lot of money, but it's not worth his health.
My bet is that he'll remain on staff as an assistant to the AD and still get paid.canderson said:From everything I've ever heard about him, he seems like an incredibly good and stand-up guy. Terrible his health has caused this but I'm glad he recognized it before it was too late.
Hopefully the removal of the job stress can help him going forward, and hopefully Minnesota can help him if/when he needs a job. I'm sure he can be a good loyalty booster for that program.
I don't want to speak ill of a person who is experiencing the health problems he is, but I played for Jerry Kill, and the person he pretends to be to the media and the person he actually is are quite different. He's not a bad guy, per se, but he blatantly treats players like commodities, more so than most coaches (not that I know all coaches, but I played for three different college coaches, and Kill was the most egregious at this).canderson said:From everything I've ever heard about him, he seems like an incredibly good and stand-up guy. Terrible his health has caused this but I'm glad he recognized it before it was too late.
Hopefully the removal of the job stress can help him going forward, and hopefully Minnesota can help him if/when he needs a job. I'm sure he can be a good loyalty booster for that program.
I'm not sure. It seems like Arizona is taking steps to invest more in their football program. They just invested just south of $75 million into new facilities in addition to adding to Arizona Stadium. From my stand point, it seems like they're taking football more seriously and I would think that they'd make substantial efforts to keep Rich Rod. However, with regards to certain openings:Awesome Fossum said:Why is Rich Rodriguez being linked to jobs like Maryland? Is that a better job than Arizona? Or is the idea that going back to the East Coast would be beneficial for Rodriguez?
I still am not sure that they will make a change. If they don't have their #1 target lined up and on board(supposedly Fisher) then why do it?I still can't believe the Les Miles thing. LSU thinks they're Oklahoma or USC or something.
I assumed the Jimbo Fisher thing was just a stupid rumor -- why would he leave FSU for any available job besides (maybe) USC?I still am not sure that they will make a change. If they don't have their #1 target lined up and on board(supposedly Fisher) then why do it?
I still can't believe the Les Miles thing. LSU thinks they're Oklahoma or USC or something.
It's better than South Carolina, not as good as Southern Cal or (less clearly) Georgia. If they like Kirby Smart better than Les Miles and have reason to think he'll choose them over Georgia, that might make sense. But if they don't have an inside track on a particular coach, I think it would be a mistake to fire Miles.LSU is a damn good job.
Why would they rather have Kirby Smart than Les Miles though? That is ridiculous if they think it's an upgrade. They need to tweak their offense to have more uptempo plays and more passing. Hire a new OC and keep Miles. If they let go Miles and bring in anybody less than a current HC at a major power they will have made a huge mistake.It's better than South Carolina, not as good as Southern Cal or (less clearly) Georgia. If they like Kirby Smart better than Les Miles and have reason to think he'll choose them over Georgia, that might make sense. But if they don't have an inside track on a particular coach, I think it would be a mistake to fire Miles.
I mentioned up thread that I played for kill which means I played for claeys, too since the whole staff has been together for a long time. Claeys is a decent d coordinator, but I don't see him as a head coach. He has no personality.So, Minnesota gave Tracy Claeys the permanent job. I guess they were impressed with the way he handled the end of the Michigan game?
This looks like back to the bottom of the conference for the Gophers to me.