Greg29fan said:TJ Warren is ACC POY. I think he deserved it.
And UNC deserves to be made fun of the NIT 3rd place banner even though they did take it down.
Agreed on Warren. Parker's first 6 or so ACC games probably cost him the award.
Greg29fan said:TJ Warren is ACC POY. I think he deserved it.
And UNC deserves to be made fun of the NIT 3rd place banner even though they did take it down.
:rolling:Greg29fan said:Duke certainly may win the ACC Tournament - Mike's teams have traditionally done very well in it and he loves to win it, but Duke has been pretty Jekyll/Hyde between Cameron and road/neutral sites this year.
I will say that if the banner read "NIT Final Four, 1973" it would probably take on a different meaning. Third place sounds cheesy, but lets not pretend that we are old enough to understand the NIT before the NCAA expanded the field to go beyond conference winners. At one time it was the preferred postseason tourney, not sure when that flipped, I'm guessing it was pre-1973,DukeSox said:wait that's the requirement?
i mean, i know UNC's standards for hanging stuff are a bit lower...
How old are your dad and aunt? To most UNC fans from back then, NC State was the most hated rival and those were the two schools that divided families. My mom still hasn't forgiven her brother for going to State. Whereas Duke was just another ACC team (aside from sporadic incidents like the Heyman-Brown fight), and to this day she can only muster a tepid distaste for them compared to her hatred of the Wolfpack.Chuck Z said:Yeah I know. Back in the day, the NIT was actually the bigger tournament. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy tweaking Carolina fans any way possible. This is what I get with my dad going to Duke and his sister and her son going to UNC, and her husband going to Duke. We have interesting holidays.
SumnerH said:How old are your dad and aunt? To most UNC fans from back then, NC State was the most hated rival and those were the two schools that divided families. My mom still hasn't forgiven her brother for going to State. Whereas Duke was just another ACC team (aside from sporadic incidents like the Heyman-Brown fight), and to this day she can only muster a tepid distaste for them compared to her hatred of the Wolfpack.
My cousins-her nieces and nephews-are quite the opposite, of course.
Greg29fan said:Pitt beating Carolina would be out of character for them given their lack of victories over ranked teams this season, but neither result (Carolina winning/losing) would surprise me.
ForceAtHome said:I have a tangentially related question a friend asked me regarding ACC basketball scheduling. As I understand, under the new conference rules, only certain teams (e.g., Duke and UNC) are guaranteed to play a home and home each season. For ACC teams that are not guaranteed this annual home and home (e.g., UNC and NC State, I believe), is it possible to schedule a non-conference game at a neutral site?
SumnerH said:
I believe it's allowed. UNC and NC State are doing that in baseball this year (nonconference neutral site games).
NC State and UNC are guaranteed to play every year in basketball, though: each team has 2 rivals that they're guaranteed to play each year.
Boston College: Notre Dame, Syracuse
Clemson: Florida State, Georgia Tech
Duke: North Carolina, Wake Forest
Florida State: Clemson, Miami
Georgia Tech: Clemson, Notre Dame
Louisville: Pittsburgh, Virginia
Miami: Florida State, Virginia Tech
North Carolina: Duke, North Carolina State
North Carolina State: North Carolina, Wake Forest
Notre Dame: Boston College, Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh: Louisville, Syracuse
Syracuse: Boston College, Pittsburgh
Virginia: Louisville, Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech: Miami, Virginia
Wake Forest: Duke, North Carolina State
Rossox said:
That is a tough draw for Pitt every year.
SumnerH said:
I believe it's allowed. UNC and NC State are doing that in baseball this year (nonconference neutral site games).
NC State and UNC are guaranteed to play every year in basketball, though: each team has 2 rivals that they're guaranteed to play each year.
ForceAtHome said:
Thanks for the info. I must have found a poor source via google. Whatever I read seemed to indicate that there was only one rival in the new system and UNC and Duke were paired. This article/blog was outrated that UNC-NC State weren't guaranteed a home and home.
der der derrrrStevie1der said:The way those last two plays were officiated is pretty much reason number one to gift wrap the trophy and send it to Durham.
tims4wins said:Wish we saw a replay of the Hood play. Don't recall ESPN ever showing it. I have no idea if he was fouled or not. I was shocked we got a call there.
Did feel like no call was correct on the last play based on the multiple replays. But if I was a Clemson (or non-Duke) fan I might feel otherwise. Kind of like the Hood dunk at the end of the first Cuse game.
tims4wins said:Congrats to UVA. Very deserving double champion. They earned the last one seed IMO.
Greg29fan said:congrats UVA backers. Great season