2014-5 Cavs: Greatest offense ever?

Grin&MartyBarret

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moly99 said:
I just don't understand how Cleveland didn't know they needed to make these moves back in the offseason. Did they really think it would be no problem with Kyrie, Lebron, Love and Waiters all expecting the offense to be run through them? Did they really think that having no one to protect the rim behind a very shaky perimeter defense would be fine?
 
I feel really bad for Clevelanders. But Dan Gilbert doesn't deserve a championship simply out of the good luck to win the lottery so many times and because Lebron is from northern Ohio.
Why do you think they didnt realize it then? They seemed well aware this was a work in progress and acquired certain assets with making future moves in mind.
 

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This is a decent trade for Cleveland. Mozgov had a decent season last year but he has fallen off this season in terms of net rating and blocks.  The good news is that his rebounding is up.  In any event, he fills a need for the Cavs and since he played for Blatt on the Russian National team there is some familiarity.  
 

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That's minor league. Even if he didn't quite mean what he said, that's just as damning in re him being a not ready for primetime coach.
 

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Just saw this:
 
RT @CBSSportsNBA: Report: Cavs assistant Tyronn Lue called timeouts behind Blatt’s back 
http://cbsprt.co/1FVTcLf 

League scouts, executives and rival players] see players appearing to run different plays than the bench calls, see assistant coach Tyronn Lue calling timeouts literally behind Blatt's back during games, and hear Cavs players openly talking about coaching issues with opposing players and personnel. Not once, not twice, but frequently over the past several months.

For weeks now, the small talk when league personnel run into each other at college games, airports or pregame meals has frequently started with: "What the hell is going on in Cleveland?"
 

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oumbi said:
Just saw this:
 
RT @CBSSportsNBA: Report: Cavs assistant Tyronn Lue called timeouts behind Blatt’s back 
http://cbsprt.co/1FVTcLf 

League scouts, executives and rival players] see players appearing to run different plays than the bench calls, see assistant coach Tyronn Lue calling timeouts literally behind Blatt's back during games, and hear Cavs players openly talking about coaching issues with opposing players and personnel. Not once, not twice, but frequently over the past several months.

For weeks now, the small talk when league personnel run into each other at college games, airports or pregame meals has frequently started with: "What the hell is going on in Cleveland?"
 
Here's the original Windhorst article:  http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12165081/nba-reeling-cleveland-cavaliers-way-course.  It contains this gem as well.
 
"I've seen Kevin fall down with the ball more times this season than the rest of his career combined because he's always in positions where he's uncomfortable and he's forced into trying to make some sort of move to get a shot, and that has never been his game," said one veteran NBA coach. "They almost never put him in position to get the ball that he did in his last few years in Minnesota and I can't figure out why."
 
 
James Jones played for Kevin Love in the fourth quarter last night apparently for defensive reasons.  Have the words "defensive replacement" and "James Jones" ever been used in the same sentence before?
 

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Why did they bring Blatt in?  Did they really think this group of talent needed coaching?
 
Spoelstra didn't coach, he just managed.  That's what they need.
 

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Why did they bring Blatt in?  Did they really think this group of talent needed coaching?
 
Spoelstra didn't coach, he just managed.  That's what they need.
 
Blatt was hired before James decided to return to Cleveland. And I get the sense that you're wrong about the second point, but I don't know enough about basketball to tell you why.
 

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Spolestra was an excellent coach, got three franchise players to embrace playing together and rolled all the way to four straight appearances in the finals. I think something that was overlooked in the summer was how valuable the stable management of Miami was to make the Big Three work. Spoelstra had been apart of the organization for a long time, and new what he wanted to run and what he needed to do to run it. He had the backing of one of the most respected basketball minds ever, and stable ownership with Mickey Arison. Cleveland doesn't have any of those three things, and you can tell how it is effecting them. That Windhorst story was full of weird things like "LeBron just announces he is going to play point guard whenever he wants too," and "Blatt will call one play on the sideline, and LeBron will call a different one on the floor." You didn't hear that kind of stuff coming from Miami.
 

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bosox4283 said:
Seven in a row, and this place is crickets. What is the true talent level of this team?
 
Pretty tough to say right now. They're integrating the new pieces well, but I don't think they even have their crunch time lineup settled right now. The Mozgov-Love-LeBron chunk of it is in place and works well together, but it's tough to say who'll stick at the 2 out of Shumpert/JR Smith, and how Kyrie adjusts to being a clear 3rd option. That said, they're clearly one of the 2 most talented teams in the East, and for all of the talk about how disappointing they've been their record when LeBron is healthy is pretty damn good and they have plenty of time to sort out rotation issues before the playoffs. I expect them to be right there in the East when all is said and done.
 

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Kyrie just absolutely DEMOLISHED Lillard tonight to the tune of 55 points.
Yep. 55 out of Cleveland's 99 points came from Kyrie. 11 for 19 from 3 point land. He hoisted up 36 shots total. He arm may fall off if he tries doing that again.
 

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Mosgov is definitely having an impact. as is shumpert and JR Smith. they actually have some depth now and Lebron looks, um, "rejuvenated."
 

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Hands up if you had "JR Smith keys the Cavaliers to a 12-game win streak".
I won't raise my hand saying he would be the key however many felt getting him the hell out of NY into a winning situation again would rejuvenate this player. He now has a specific role which is what his game is built upon.