Comfortably Lomb said:
No. Between this and the President's Cup they have one of these things every year. They don't care because it's not special. For the Euros this is a chance to shine on the world stage. For the Americans it's an obligation. You want them to care? Ditch the President's Cup.
Does anybody care about the President's Cup? I sure as hell don't. The Ryder Cup is most definetly more special than the President's Cup.Comfortably Lomb said:
No. Between this and the President's Cup they have one of these things every year. They don't care because it's not special. For the Euros this is a chance to shine on the world stage. For the Americans it's an obligation. You want them to care? Ditch the President's Cup.
The President's Cup is a bullshit event, with a long history dating all the way back to 1994.RedOctober3829 said:Does anybody care about the President's Cup? I sure as hell don't. The Ryder Cup is most definetly more special than the President's Cup.
I just think that the US players don't care about it like the last generation did. Maybe because they are now biannual losers. Whatever the reason is, Europe knows they can beat the US no matter the situation.
Comfortably Lomb said:
No. Between this and the President's Cup they have one of these things every year. They don't care because it's not special. For the Euros this is a chance to shine on the world stage. For the Americans it's an obligation. You want them to care? Ditch the President's Cup.
If he earns a a spot there's nothing you can do about it.Deathofthebambino said:I agree that the US players care about this event. Nobody can tell me that Patrick Reed (who I personally don't care for) and Spieth and Fowler aren't out there fighting. The problem is they just aren't as good, as a team, as Europe. It seems like Europe is constantly in a better position, always in the fairway, always on the green, always putting for birdie, while the US is scrambling around for pars and halves. This afternoon was just brutal to watch. The US couldn't get anything going, and then Reed's miss on the bunny on 16 was just the perfect ending.
I just looked up Furyk's record in Ryder Cup matches, and coming into this season, he's played 30 matches and his record is 9-17-4, and I honestly thought it was going to be much, much worse than that. In fourball, he's 1-8-1 and he's 4-6-2 in foursomes. He's 4-3-1 in singles. He's fucking so hard to watch. He made shots today that most 10 handicappers could have done better. I feel like he singlehandedly destroys the US every two years, and he ruins the guy he gets paired with. I hate his swing, I hate his face, I hate his game and I want him to never play in it again. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH.
ivanvamp said:If he earns a a spot there's nothing you can do about it.
But, given the numbers you just laid out, maybe the key is to sit him in Friday and Saturday and just let him play his singles match on Sunday.
Exactly. I feel like most of the US players are mercenaries who only care about their next paycheck. This feeling would go a long ways in not having the same feelings about this event than the Europeans. This group of Euros grew up on the memories of Seve, Nick Faldo, Ian Woosnam, etc. that turned the tide of this event back in the 80's and early 90's. They grew up wanting to emulate those guys and carry on the tradition of beating the USA. What did this group of US players grow up wanting to do more? Win majors or win the Ryder Cup? I see guys like Jordan Spieth, Patrick Reed, and Keegan Bradley who fit the Euro mentality of embracing the competition and taking their games to new levels because they are playing for something bigger than individual accolades. Spieth and Reed really showed me something the last 2 days. You need guys that are outwardly confident about themselves and their games no matter how good or bad they are playing coming into the week. Other players seem to play it as just another tournament on the schedule. Sure, they'll get excited if they do well and be disappointed if they dont but at the end of the day it's just another event and they'll move onto the next one. The European players point to this event as the most important event they play and they as a group step their games up. Rory once felt it was just another event, but once he played in it he was introduced into the culture of how the Euros treat the event. There isn't a player or a group of players playing for the US that can be considered as leaders in this sense. Mickelson? Nope. Woods? Hell no.Zomp said:Normally I'm not one to think intangibles make a difference, but one of the reasons I think the Europeans seem to play better in the Ryder Cup is the camaraderie they have. Sure, some of the US guys are friends but I think when the Europeans come on the PGA tour its an us against them mentality, where as with the Americans its every man for himself.
doldmoose34 said:Rory is kicking the shit out of Rickie 4up thru 5
fletcherpost said:I think it's gonna be close. If the US can avoid more than two blowout losses and keep it close, the pressure will get to the European team. Just like it did to the US team two years ago. Golf is tough when it's meant to be easy.
Zomp said:I NOW FUCKING LOVE PATRICK REED
Zomp said:I NOW FUCKING LOVE PATRICK REED
Me too, Was I ever wrong about him, to quote a famous SoSH line He has Nuts the size of SATURNZomp said:I NOW FUCKING LOVE PATRICK REED
RedOctober3829 said:What a shit putt by Webb.
Zomp said:
He almost whiffed. Its painful to see a pro choke like that.
inJacobyWeTrust said:Also Rory was -6 thru 6 and shot 29 I believe on the front 9. Hard to beat that.
fletcherpost said:I'm so glad golf has Rory, when he's on, he's just great to watch.
johnmd20 said:20 year old Jordan Spieth is putting like me. That's not a compliment. Awful situation right now.
johnmd20 said:Bubba Watson is officially my least favorite golfer in the world at this point. Right behind him is Webb Simpson.