2014 Seattle Seahawks: Bittersweet Symphony
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Seahawks receiver Sidney Rice is retiring, per league source.
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Per source, Sidney Rice's decision to retire arises from a history of concussions.
Seahawks receiver Sidney Rice is retiring, per league source.
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Per source, Sidney Rice's decision to retire arises from a history of concussions.
Marshawn Lynch plans to hold out through training camp. Will be interesting to see what happens here. I don't think he has that many more productive years, but hard to argue against him short term.
It's probably a good thing. Christine Michael is a budding star. If he's not better than Lynch now he will be at some point this season.
Yeah, I think Seattle needs to hold the line here. Lynch is good but no RB is worth the money he currently makes, let alone what he wants to make. Cheaper alternatives can give them 90% of the production for 10% of the price. And then they can use the savings to pay Russell Wilson ALL the money.
The latest is that the Hawks are willing to re-configure the deal but not add any dollars to it.
Sounds like converting salary to bonus? He's due $5M in 2014 and $5.5M in 2015, none of it guaranteed. If they gave him a $4M bonus and took $2M off of salary each year, the cap number wouldn't change.
Sounds like converting salary to bonus? He's due $5M in 2014 and $5.5M in 2015, none of it guaranteed. If they gave him a $4M bonus and took $2M off of salary each year, the cap number wouldn't change.
In disappointing news, third string TE Anthony McCoy, battling back from a season-ending Achilles tear last season, tears his other Achilles and is out again for the year. Man, that guy is snakebit. He isn't necessarily a key piece, but it's still sad to watch a guy battle back from a tough injury and 5 days into camp has the same thing happen to him again only on the other leg.
Seahawks also signed veteran RT Eric Winston for some depth, even though reports in camp have Britt and Bowie both doing well in their battle for the RT spot.
Seahawks also signed veteran RT Eric Winston for some depth, even though reports in camp have Britt and Bowie both doing well in their battle for the RT spot.
How does not paying portions of the Beast's signing bonus due to him not reporting effect the salary cap. Is it a separate fine that is irrelevant or, since it's ties to bonus money, will it start to open up a small chunk of salary cap change?
Tony C said:
It's the team actually fining him, so it doesn't have any impact on his salary cap number. The money comes back to them, but it only saves them the cash going out. The salary cap impact stays the same.
yeah, that's my understanding. It isn't as if Seattle is fining him in the traditional sense, the CBA determines what amount is deducted from a player's bonus if he doesn't report, it's not a discretionary matter. So in an accounting sense it figures there should be some salary cap benefit.
That said, even if there does end up being some substantial potential cap benefit, chances are the Seahawks will waive those fines as a make good gesture if/when Lynch reports, so probably doesn't matter anyway.
That said, even if there does end up being some substantial potential cap benefit, chances are the Seahawks will waive those fines as a make good gesture if/when Lynch reports, so probably doesn't matter anyway.
The biggest news out of Seattle today has nothing to do with Austin Jackson, rather Marshawn Lynch has reported to camp and will not be getting more money.
Edit: Actually, he will get more money.
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So sounds like Seahawks guaranteed Lynch an additional $1.5 million for this season to get him to report and waive all fines.
Edit: Actually, he will get more money.
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So sounds like Seahawks guaranteed Lynch an additional $1.5 million for this season to get him to report and waive all fines.
He's getting his 2014 salary guaranteed, plus his roster bonuses ($500K) and incentive bonuses ($500K for 1500 yards rushing) paid up front, plus he's getting $500K up front from his 2015 salary. So that accounts for the $1.5 million difference. So he'll make $6.5M this year guaranteed. In 2015, he'll have $5M not guaranteed, plus a potential $2M in roster bonuses. His cap number will be $8.5M in 2015, but only $1.5M in dead money if he's cut.
Marshawn Lynch was cleared of allegations of assault and propery damage by police.
Now let's hope the BS is over and we can get to playing!
Now let's hope the BS is over and we can get to playing!
If everyone can stay healthy, watch out for this offense. It could be devastating.
I never thought I'd say something like that about a Darrell Bevell offense.
I never thought I'd say something like that about a Darrell Bevell offense.
Seattle looks as good in the preseason as any team has in many years. If it weren't for that division and the defenses in it and potential injuries, I honestly think they would have a real shot at running the table, especially if their offense has taken another step (which looks to be the case, with Harvin back, etc.). They have studs all over the field, including on the lines and the skill positions on both sides of the ball, they are well coached (as much as it pains me to say that) and seem to have very good chemistry. Real deal, and barring major injuries, I'd lay the o/u on number of wins at about 13.5.
Per Field Gulls:
The "final seven" only lists 6 names, so I have to find out who #7 is. Jeffcoat was a surprise and Farwell's injury turned out to be a lot more serious than let on. Other than that, no real surprises here.
The "final seven" only lists 6 names, so I have to find out who #7 is. Jeffcoat was a surprise and Farwell's injury turned out to be a lot more serious than let on. Other than that, no real surprises here.
C.J. Davis was also placed on injured reserve:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2014/08/26/3347720_nfl-fines-seahawks-300000-takes.html?sp=/99/512/&rh=1
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2014/08/26/3347720_nfl-fines-seahawks-300000-takes.html?sp=/99/512/&rh=1
Seahawks cuts are as follows per Field Gulls:
Terminated Veteran Contracts
CB Phillip Adams
T Eric Winston
Waived
TE RaShaun Allen
CB Akeem Auguste
RB Demitrius Bronson
WR Arceto Clark
QB B.J. Daniels
G Caylin Hauptmann
T Nate Isles
C Patrick Lewis
WR Chris Matthews
DE Benson Mayowa
S Terrance Parks
TE Morrell Presley
QB Terrelle Pryor
DT Andru Pulu
FB Kiero Small
DT Jimmy Staten
S Steven Terrell
LB Korey Toomer
WR Bryan Walters
RB Spencer Ware
Placed on Injured Reserve
DT D'Anthony Smith
Only real surprise to me was Eric Winston, I thought he was having a really good camp. I'd like to see Bronson, Auguste, Daniels, Mayowa, Staten and Small make the practice squad, but we'll see how that goes. I think a bunch of these guys will end up getting snagged by other teams looking to fill the back end of their rosters.
Terminated Veteran Contracts
CB Phillip Adams
T Eric Winston
Waived
TE RaShaun Allen
CB Akeem Auguste
RB Demitrius Bronson
WR Arceto Clark
QB B.J. Daniels
G Caylin Hauptmann
T Nate Isles
C Patrick Lewis
WR Chris Matthews
DE Benson Mayowa
S Terrance Parks
TE Morrell Presley
QB Terrelle Pryor
DT Andru Pulu
FB Kiero Small
DT Jimmy Staten
S Steven Terrell
LB Korey Toomer
WR Bryan Walters
RB Spencer Ware
Placed on Injured Reserve
DT D'Anthony Smith
Only real surprise to me was Eric Winston, I thought he was having a really good camp. I'd like to see Bronson, Auguste, Daniels, Mayowa, Staten and Small make the practice squad, but we'll see how that goes. I think a bunch of these guys will end up getting snagged by other teams looking to fill the back end of their rosters.
Other cuts signed by other teams (per Pro Football Rumors):
Benson Mayowa, LB signed by the Raiders
Korey Toomer. LB signed by the Cowboys
Caylin Hauptmann, G signed by the Browns
Kiero Small, FB signed by the Browns to the practice squad
Benson Mayowa, LB signed by the Raiders
Korey Toomer. LB signed by the Cowboys
Caylin Hauptmann, G signed by the Browns
Kiero Small, FB signed by the Browns to the practice squad
BigSoxFan said:
It goes back to the top 10 scoring offense it was last year, instead of a potential top 5 or top 3 this year.
Man, I don't want to say it, but watching tonight they certainly seem like they are better than last year. With Harvin, it completely changes the offense. What will you guard? The sweep or the inside? And Wilson is much, much better than last year.
This team is filthy.
This team is filthy.
I agree.ThePrideofShiner said:
They have two offensive studs in Lynch and Harvin, plus a very good QB.
And then there's that defense.
A team this physical can't go two seasons in a row without some significant injuries, right? If they are as healthy as they were last year, I can't see them not playing the Super Bowl.
I thought GB had a shot at covering last night.
I was dreaming.
Seahawks were impressive in every way possible, except for Earl Thomas as the punt-returner.
I was dreaming.
Seahawks were impressive in every way possible, except for Earl Thomas as the punt-returner.
I thought they looked great last night but GB has some major injuries on both the d-line and the o-line. I want to see how they do against a stout defense and an offensive line that's not Swiss cheese. It's possible that Seattle makes most teams look like GB did last night but after one game I'm not ready to crown them just yet.
If anything last night just showed that the Packers don't appear to be a contender like a lot of people had them pegged.
There is no doubt Seattle is the team to beat, but stuff happens.
There is no doubt Seattle is the team to beat, but stuff happens.
One thing came up in last nights game thats a pretty interesting strategy discussion: Seattle would not switch Sherman from LCB when GB would just avoid him completely.
I was thinking last night of the positives and negatives about this:
Negatives:
Am I missing anything else? Considering all of this I really couldnt tell if this was a smart decision or not. Ultimately they held Rogers and the offense in check and got a pick as well so it looked like the gamble paid off. But over the course of the season, I really think the big negative is that it allows the other team to get some really good matchups on the other side of the field and eventually I have to imagine that would come back to bite Seattle.
And does anyone know if they played this way all of last season?
I was thinking last night of the positives and negatives about this:
Negatives:
- Sherman, their best player, wasnt involved in the game whatsoever
- GB eventually was putting their worst receiver on the field against Sherman which gave GB better matchups on the other side of the field
- Sherman required no safety help and so I believe Settle could focus their safeties on the other side of the field
- I'm not familiar enough with their personnel but I'm assuming that part of the decision was based on allowing Sherman & Maxwell to play LCB and RCB respectively, where I'm assuming each is better at that position rather than flipping back and forth
Am I missing anything else? Considering all of this I really couldnt tell if this was a smart decision or not. Ultimately they held Rogers and the offense in check and got a pick as well so it looked like the gamble paid off. But over the course of the season, I really think the big negative is that it allows the other team to get some really good matchups on the other side of the field and eventually I have to imagine that would come back to bite Seattle.
And does anyone know if they played this way all of last season?
BigSoxFan said:
I wonder if part of BB adding some bigger, stronger offensive linemen has to do with this. Maybe he envisions needing a more physically punishing team.
Of course, Mankins fit that bill nicely but I could still chalk that up to him not being worth the $$ and seeing an opportunity to improve elsewhere.
But man, Seattle looks tremendous.
wutang112878 said:
It seems to me any time one guy can take away half the field by himself, a la Revis, that's a good thing. Let the O move guys around in response and the D can double, triple hot receivers on the other side and adapt.
They looked great last night but it is Week 1. Lots will change between now and January. The only thing we know right now is that Seattle is still one of the best couple of teams in the league, which we already knew.
Also, let's not forget the tale of the 2002 Patriots, who started off like a house on fire and then missed the playoffs. Granted this Seattle team is clearly better, but still.
This only confirmed two things to me.
1) SEA is deep on both sides of the ball and their quality is still very impressive. Not sold Lynch or the O-Line are that good the rest of the year especially given Lynch's and mileage and the quality, or lack thereof, of GB's d-line.
2) GB is top heavy, like Dallas, and is still going to struggle on D. Like last year, they will have to rely on their offense which still attempts to punish with the run (no success last night).
1) SEA is deep on both sides of the ball and their quality is still very impressive. Not sold Lynch or the O-Line are that good the rest of the year especially given Lynch's and mileage and the quality, or lack thereof, of GB's d-line.
2) GB is top heavy, like Dallas, and is still going to struggle on D. Like last year, they will have to rely on their offense which still attempts to punish with the run (no success last night).
The scary thing is that the D just about pitched a shut-out against one of the best QBs and one of the more highly regarded offenses in football. Lesser QBs with lesser weapons against that D?
I am not a Seattle fan but could not be more pleased by the contrast between the always professional Russell Wilson and the hypersensitive, always tweeting, Subway pitching RGIII.
It's also sweet to see the Seahawks smash ESPN narratives and the NFL wish list of recent years.
Can't play defense anymore -- Wanna bet, even after you put your thumb more firmly on the scale?
Don't talk to me about "balance", we're in the Arena era of fantasy numbers -- Really?
It's also sweet to see the Seahawks smash ESPN narratives and the NFL wish list of recent years.
Can't play defense anymore -- Wanna bet, even after you put your thumb more firmly on the scale?
Don't talk to me about "balance", we're in the Arena era of fantasy numbers -- Really?
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