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. Bobby Robins takes people apart. If the John Scotts of the world want to dance, Bobby should be his partner—not an essential roster piece.
 
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Robins value as a fighter is he will go "all in".  He'll jump in and go with anyone. He fights with enough reckless abandon that he looks good on film.  Lots of punches, not all of which land.  I think he'd get his head handed to him by the Scotts of the NHL, although like Thornton he works at his craft and will figure out what works at this level.  If they could jettison Caron, Robins becomes a good 13th guy.   Dress him when the Leafs come to town, but never against the Wings or other teams that don't play that game.  He'll take the beating so others don't have to.  He'd be more intimidating than Campbell, but not as much as McQuaid/ Miller.
 
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They can have Robins ride the shuttle all year, or pick up another goon off the scrap heap. They can mix and match games where they'll need a goon, and a first glance Opening Night may be a game where one is necessary. It'd be nice to have Robins around for that game to keep Rinaldo busy and not have to waste Lucic/McQuaid/Miller or whomever on him. Especially with Campbell out. After that they should be OK until the Sabres game late in October.
 
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Yep,you're right.  I totally forgot Scott was on the Sharks now. Robins can be the sacrificial lamb in that game as well. 
 
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What if they just don't worry about having a fighter like Chiarelli hinted they wanted to do? Having Thornton and Lucic didn't stop their forwards from getting kneed in the head. If Scott is dressed, just don't indulge him and he literally can't do anything.
 
Crazy idea, I know. I guess losing Thornton to suspension is better than losing Lucic if he slewfooted someone who refused to fight. THE CODE!!!
 
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I agree. The Bruins, who are seemingly on the verge of keeping Bobby Robins, don't. I'm just saying if they insist on keeping a goon, I hope they at least pick their spots and don't waste a lineup spot nightly against softer teams.
 
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I agree. The Bruins, who are seemingly on the verge of keeping Bobby Robins, don't. I'm just saying if they insist on keeping a goon, I hope they at least pick their spots and don't waste a lineup spot nightly against softer teams.
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Yeah. Mostly just venting. If he's scratched most of the time it's not really a big deal in the big scheme of things.
 
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Jordan Caron (!!), David Warsofsky and Craig Cunningham are on waivers today.

That tells me that Robins makes the team, as does Simon Gagne in all likelihood. Spooner may have forced his way back into the mix with his performance last night. He will play the wing again tonight according to Julien.
 
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Non-revocable. I think the reason they held him out of preseason games was to try and sour teams on him and hope he slips through. Generally if they want to keep a guy you waive him early on in camp when other teams still have full rosters, but Warsofsky had to stay as Krug insurance. Unfortunately, I think he'll get scooped up.
 
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Yeah. They all go to Providence if they clear. I suspect Caron and Cunningham clear, not so sure about Warsofsky. 50/50. Undersized but other teams may view him as Krug 2.0.
 
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Seems odd that if the Bs were talking about D-man trades, they couldn't get at least something for Warsofsky
 
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Seems odd that if the Bs were talking about D-man trades, they couldn't get at least something for Warsofsky
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It does. Maybe we overrate him, but he seems like he would be a decent option as a 3rd pair/PP guy on some team. If not for Krug I would like him for that role in Boston.
 
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It does. Maybe we overrate him, but he seems like he would be a decent option as a 3rd pair/PP guy on some team. If not for Krug I would like him for that role in Boston.
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See I think he is overrated here.  People compare him to Krug, who is also small, but I think and inch or two taller and 15+ pounds heavier than Warsofsky.  Warsofsky just has not ever shown the offensive skills that Krug has.  I think Krug put up almost 3times as many points as DW the one year they played together
 
I figure someone claims Warsofsky,  and he might even put up some points somewhere, but good luck to him,  I just don't see him ever being part of the picture in Boston. Him leaving will probably help Morrow by giving him a chance to be the top offensive D down there, and may even help some guys like Trotman, giving them more opportunities.  And Trotman and Morrow both have more potential to help Boston out than Warsofsky ever will..
 
I am sadder to see Cunningham waived.  He has earned a chance with this org, and has never really gotten one.
 
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So the roster has to be finalized by 5 tomorrow. I believe they have 25 players remaining, which needs to be trimmed to 23. They're down to 7 defencemen and 2 goalies, so it's the forwards that need to be sorted out. Caron and Cunningham are still with the team after clearing waivers, so they could go down to clear two spots. Spooner is still with the team as well and can easily go down without waivers, but he seems to have forced himself back into play. That leaves one final decision, Simon Gagne. I'm assuming that the fact he is still here indicates they're trying to get something done. Spooner's mini-tryout on the wing worked out well though so perhaps they scrap the Gagne idea in favor of Spooner.
 
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Why not try Gagne out on a lightweight deal that's easy to scrap if it's not working out? I think it's worth seeing what he can do for the first month or two of the season because the payoff if it does work out is pretty nice. Spooner is a nice player to have in your back pocket as insurance if it doesn't work out.
 
I like the options that keeping Gagne gives the team. I have no problem giving him another month or so as a tryout.
 
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How would they be able to do that with Gagne? A two-way deal with a wink-wink deal that they'd release him if he's not working out? Just not sure of the cap implications of signing Gagne.
 
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They may be able to hang onto Gagne for a bit into the season before signing him. IIRC, Pandolfo was a training camp invite and he traveled and skated with the team during the season before they officially signed him. I'm not sure what the rules are on that, maybe they just need to extend the PTO? I'm not sure how PTO's work, but I'm guessing there is some sort of expiration date written into it, maybe they have some extra time to evaluate him.
 
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Chiarelli said they'll give Pastrnak some games in Providence before deciding to either bring him up or send him to Sweden. I wonder if the 9-game thing applies to the AHL as well, or if there is some other threshold of games he can play without buring a year on his ELC.
 
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Chiarelli said they'll give Pastrnak some games in Providence before deciding to either bring him up or send him to Sweden. I wonder if the 9-game thing applies to the AHL as well, or if there is some other threshold of games he can play without buring a year on his ELC.
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They really have to send him back to Sweden, don't they?  I'm not all keen on keeping him in Providence and burning that ELC year.
 
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He can play in Providence all season because he wasn't selected in the CHL entry draft before being selected in the NHL draft. He was selected in the CHL import draft but that was after being picked by the Bruins. Personally, I'd rather burn a year of his ELC and have him play in Providence all year. That way he can be called up if he's lighting it up down there and be an option for the playoffs if the NHL team needs a winger. Obviously they'll use the nine games to see if he can handle the league physically before they make any decision. 
 
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cshea said:
Chiarelli said they'll give Pastrnak some games in Providence before deciding to either bring him up or send him to Sweden. I wonder if the 9-game thing applies to the AHL as well, or if there is some other threshold of games he can play without buring a year on his ELC.
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Pasta is eligible for a slide season if he were to play the whole season at Priovidence, and less than 10 NHL games,  so it would not burn a year off his entry level contract
 
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If a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games — regular season or playoffs — the contract will "slide" or be extended one year. The extension does not apply if the player turns 20 between Sept. 16 and Dec. 31 in the year he signed the contract.
Depending on the contract's structure, the player's cap hit can be affected either by an increase or a decrease. Players who sign at age 18 can have their contract extended (or "slide") two seasons.
While this is fairly straightforward for players returned to junior, it often leads to confusion for fans when 18- and 19-year-olds are assigned to a minor-league club. These situations are no different: the contract still slides, just as examples for Tomas Tatar and Niclas Bergfors illustrate.
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I think they would be crazy to burn a year of his ELC. But keeping him in Providence and NOT burning an ELC year? Sign me up.
 
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I think they would be crazy to burn a year of his ELC. But keeping him in Providence and NOT burning an ELC year? Sign me up.
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I love the idea that they can send him to Providence, period. The fact they can do it without burning a year of his ELC is tremendous. I'd much rather have him in Providence than Sweden. 
 
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[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]Hopefully Pastrami sticks in Providence, would be good to have him get his feet wet in NA hockey while providing an emergency call-up option. If Loui goes down again, he's the best fit on the top line IMO[/SIZE]
 
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