2015 Bills: Go Rex Go

[Silverdude2167]

Why is he talking about this stuff?
 
Living publicly in the past about wins is bad. But who lives in the past and boasts about losses?
 
The way the team talked after the game the players seemed to understand that they were too amped. Apparently Rex did not get the message. I can't wait till they meet again and the Bills make all the same emotional mistakes.

 

[edmunddantes]

Why is he talking about this stuff?
 
Living publicly in the past about wins is bad. But who lives in the past and boasts about losses?
 
The way the team talked after the game the players seemed to understand that they were too amped. Apparently Rex did not get the message. I can't wait till they meet again and the Bills make all the same emotional mistakes.

Well if he isn't giving the media members juicy quotes, and making their articles really really easy to write. They might just start talking about the actual team's wins, losses, inadequacies, lack of coaching/control, etc.
 
This way he kicks that can down the road, and hopes the Bills recover before the media gets bored of his shtick. 

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

They stood up to NE once down 37-13? Didn't it occur to them to stand up to the Pats at the beginning of the fucking game so they didn't get their tits blown off on their own field?
 
He's whining about the schedule? I thought he was building a bully!
 
Christ what an asshole.

 

[tims4wins]

Like extra rest mattered from week 1 to week 2.
 
Also, wasn't he game planning for the Pats all offseason?

 

[Silverdude2167]

Like extra rest mattered from week 1 to week 2.
 
Also, wasn't he game planning for the Pats all offseason?

I am sure he will point out the extra rest the Bills will have against the Pats later this season. What will his excuse be if they get blown off the field again?

 

[MillarTime]

They stood up to NE once down 37-13? Didn't it occur to them to stand up to the Pats at the beginning of the fucking game so they didn't get their tits blown off on their own field?
 
He's whining about the schedule? I thought he was building a bully!

 
Just once, I would love to see a media member ask a follow-up along these lines. The guy is a dumbfuck of epic proportions and yet the media lets him get away with it because he's quotable.

 

[AbbyNoho]

Apparently, once the Blue Jays clinch a playoff berth (# is 1) the Bills will now have the longest playoff drought of the 4 leagues in the US.
 
That's a good enough excuse for me to remind people how the Bills last playoff game ended:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfz4JViRkoA

 
At the end of that video the Titans fans are all chanting "Whoomp there it is!" The 90's refused to loose its grasp in early 2000.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

He mentioned the Pats four times in his press conference the other day too after the win. Great divisional win and all he can talk about is a game 2 weeks ago and one 6 weeks away? Pathetic.

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

 
Just once, I would love to see a media member ask a follow-up along these lines. The guy is a dumbfuck of epic proportions and yet the media lets him get away with it because he's quotable.

 
Exactly. He provides easy sound bites. No way anyone's gonna call him on his bullshit. Why kill the previously fatted golden goose?

 

[luckiestman]

I am guessing that Rexy and the Bills are going to embarrass Eli like they did Luck and Tannehill, but he has of course lost to Eli before. Big game for both teams. Bills can't afford to lose these types of games if they want to be a playoff team, and while the NFC East is wide open, a 3rd loss this early would hurt the Giants quite a bit.

I never really liked Rex's act but a lot of other fan's had there come to Jesus moment when the Giants embarrassed the Jets. I'm interested to see what happens this week. Hoping old man Tom can get in Rex's head as much as Giselle's Tom. Plenty of room in there

 

[Trlicek's Whip]

Like extra rest mattered from week 1 to week 2.
 
Also, wasn't he game planning for the Pats all offseason?

 
And going home early that week because the game plan was locked and loaded for so long. Rextown!

 

[dcdrew10]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/30/rex-ryan-says-patriots-were-clearly-trying-to-embarrass-us/ Rex is still talking about the Pats. Saying they were "clearly trying to embarrass (the Bills)". Too bad they did a good enough job embarrassing themselves that t

 

[Silverdude2167]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/30/rex-ryan-says-patriots-were-clearly-trying-to-embarrass-us/ Rex is still talking about the Pats. Saying they were "clearly trying to embarrass (the Bills)". Too bad they did a good enough job embarrassing themselves that t

I like that Rex had the time this week to go on Francesa's show today for half an hour. I have never heard a head coach on the radio beyond their one weekly radio appearance, let alone on the radio with their upcoming opponents local station.

 

[pappymojo]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/30/rex-ryan-says-patriots-were-clearly-trying-to-embarrass-us/ Rex is still talking about the Pats. Saying they were "clearly trying to embarrass (the Bills)". Too bad they did a good enough job embarrassing themselves that t

Doesn't the fact that the Bills came back in that game justify the Patriots level of effort? If the Patriots had let off on the gas pedal, do they lose the game?

 

[rodderick]

Doesn't the fact that the Bills came back in that game justify the Patriots level of effort? If the Patriots had let off on the gas pedal, do they lose the game?

They probably take more time off the clock and the Bills have worse field position, so they likely win more comfortably. But absolutely everything that could go wrong did for the Pats on their last few drives, so if they don't shoot themselves on the foot so much, odds are they manage to put the game away sooner.

 

[Super Nomario]

They probably take more time off the clock and the Bills have worse field position, so they likely win more comfortably. But absolutely everything that could go wrong did for the Pats on their last few drives, so if they don't shoot themselves on the foot so much, odds are they manage to put the game away sooner.

How do you think they would have taken more time off the clock?

 

[soxfan121]

https://twitter.com/VeteranScout/status/649302177211662336

 

[tims4wins]

How can anyone take him seriously at this point?

 

[soxhop411]

How can anyone take him seriously at this point?
 

because the media "LOVESSSSSS" him... At least he stopped doing his "SB winners" stuff that he did with the Jets

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I want to make sweet love to this game. 17 fuckin' penalties. Beautiful.

 

[soxhop411]

I want to make sweet love to this game. 17 fuckin' penalties. Beautiful.

http://boards.buffalobills.com/forumdisplay.php?40-General-Buffalo-Bills-Discussion

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Hah, that didn't take long.

 

[soxhop411]

**the official fire Rex Ryan thread**
 
I have never (REFS RANT)
Refs
are popular threads right now
 

Hah, that didn't take long.

 

[dcmissle]

So in the aftermath of the 2012 season, when the world was being remade in the vision of read option play action, when the pistol was the flavor of the day, some supposedly smart people people flirted with the idea that QBs were perhaps overvalued. And some of those people said here that the Ravens should have jettisoned Flacco for Tyrod Taylor.

How's that working out? The Jets and Bills have ceilings markedly lower than what they otherwise would be -- ceilings imposed by their QBs.

 

[Ed Hillel]

LOL:

@JoeBuscaglia: #Bills HC Rex Ryan: I'm proud of the way this team played. I'll take a team with fight regardless of penalties.

 

[soxhop411]

The whole first page of the message board is angry people and like 50% of it are blaming the refs

 

[soxhop411]

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak  2m2 minutes ago
Rex Ryan to reporters today: "... You might not understand the game the way I understand [it] because I’ve been on the other side. ..."

 

[soxhop411]

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak  38m38 minutes ago
Per @DanGrazianoESPN, Giants coach Tom Coughlin told his players before Sunday's game that the Bills would beat themselves with penalties.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak  2m2 minutes ago
Rex Ryan to reporters today: "... You might not understand the game the way I understand [it] because I’ve been on the other side. ..."

The media is the only reason he's still a HC. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, fucking dolt...

 

[Al Zarilla]

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak  2m2 minutes ago
Rex Ryan to reporters today: "... You might not understand the game the way I understand [it] because I’ve been on the other side. ..."

What does that even mean?

 

[Ralphwiggum]

So in the aftermath of the 2012 season, when the world was being remade in the vision of read option play action, when the pistol was the flavor of the day, some supposedly smart people people flirted with the idea that QBs were perhaps overvalued. And some of those people said here that the Ravens should have jettisoned Flacco for Tyrod Taylor.

How's that working out? The Jets and Bills have ceilings markedly lower than what they otherwise would be -- ceilings imposed by their QBs.

 
Your takeaway from this game is that Tyrod Taylor isn't good and the Ravens made a good decision by paying Flacco like a Top 5 QB?

 

[54thMA]

The media is the only reason he's still a HC. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, fucking dolt...

Bingo; the media is your friend Rex, you don't want them turning on you or you're screwed.

 

[dcmissle]

 
Your takeaway from this game is that Tyrod Taylor isn't good and the Ravens made a good decision by paying Flacco like a Top 5 QB?

This game and the season to date generally.

Teams are between a rock and hard place on QBs cause there aren't enough of them to go around. You want to tie your fate to Fitzpatrick and Taylor, good luck. I'll stand by my estimation that Jets and Bills have disappointingly low ceilings given the rest of the talent on the rosters. Bills were not in this game for the great bulk of it.

Flacco's will be a ho hum contract as more QB signings occur and the cap goes up.

 

[Ralphwiggum]

Well, I think Taylor has generally looked pretty decent this year and has not been the issue in either of the Bills' losses.

 

[dcmissle]

And the NFL is facing a QB crisis precisely because this college crap does not cut it at the next level. I understand it is much easier to coach at college level. But the NFL rules still favor the Bradys, Manning's, Breeses and so forth.

 

[Hendu for Kutch]

This game and the season to date generally.

Teams are between a rock and hard place on QBs cause there aren't enough of them to go around. You want to tie your fate to Fitzpatrick and Taylor, good luck. I'll stand by my estimation that Jets and Bills have disappointingly low ceilings given the rest of the talent on the rosters. Bills were not in this game for the great bulk of it.

Flacco's will be a ho hum contract as more QB signings occur and the cap goes up.

 
That's kindof a chicken-egg argument though, isn't it?  I'm sure the Bills and Jets can afford to have much better talent when they're paying the QB peanuts, no?  And Baltimore would probably have been able to retain more talent if they didn't have to pay Flacco.

 

[Ralphwiggum]

Plus I think I would rather have Buffalo's roster than Baltimore's at this point. Maybe Taylor sucks or maybe he's serviceable but Flacco is mediocre and is being paid like he's elite which is going to kill them (if it isn't already) unless he starts playing like a Top 5 QB. Buffalo's issue so far this year isn't their QB. It is that their highly paid D-line hasn't been good and their coach sucks.

 

[Al Zarilla]

OK, I heard Rex and what he meant by the other side. 

 

[dcmissle]

 
That's kindof a chicken-egg argument though, isn't it?  I'm sure the Bills and Jets can afford to have much better talent when they're paying the QB peanuts, no?  And Baltimore would probably have been able to retain more talent if they didn't have to pay Flacco.

It's not that complicated. Assuming reasonable health, let's see if Buffalo makes the postseason, gets to New England and almost pulls out a playoff win, or better, this year. And Baltimore last year didn't have reasonable health; it had a decimated secondary. Cause that's the comp -- certain people were saying, let Flacco go, ride Taylor. As you noted, there is no credible argument that Taylor lacks weapons.

 

[pappymojo]

It's not that complicated. Assuming reasonable health, let's see if Buffalo makes the postseason, gets to New England and almost pulls out a playoff win, or better, this year. And Baltimore last year didn't have reasonable health; it had a decimated secondary. Cause that's the comp -- certain people were saying, let Flacco go, ride Taylor. As you noted, there is no credible argument that Taylor lacks weapons.

Were they saying it before last year or before this year?

 

[Ralphwiggum]

It's not that complicated. Assuming reasonable health, let's see if Buffalo makes the postseason, gets to New England and almost pulls out a playoff win, or better, this year. And Baltimore last year didn't have reasonable health; it had a decimated secondary. Cause that's the comp -- certain people were saying, let Flacco go, ride Taylor. As you noted, there is no credible argument that Taylor lacks weapons.

I mean, that's a fucking ridiculous way to evaluate the particular decision you brought up. But whatever.

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

LOL:

@JoeBuscaglia: #Bills HC Rex Ryan: I'm proud of the way this team played. I'll take a team with fight regardless of penalties.

Probably not a good sign for Rexy that most patriots fans would agree with him on this about the teams he coaches.

 

[k-factory]

Bingo; the media is your friend Rex, you don't want them turning on you or you're screwed.

 
The media doesn't like Rex because he kisses their ass, they 'like' him because he's got personality and is a quote machine. Makes for great stories. That's not changing.

 

[dcmissle]

Were they saying it before last year or before this year?

Two years ago, when Flacco signed his new deal after winning the SB.

 

[Super Nomario]

 
The media doesn't like Rex because he kisses their ass, they 'like' him because he's got personality and is a quote machine. Makes for great stories. That's not changing.

I agree with this. The media doesn't care if you belittle them (Parcells) or even if you lie to them (countless examples, but Steve Kerr is a recent one). As you long as you talk, and especially if you are interesting - and Rex is - they have something to write about. As far as I can tell, that's all they really care about.

 

[Stitch01]

So in the aftermath of the 2012 season, when the world was being remade in the vision of read option play action, when the pistol was the flavor of the day, some supposedly smart people people flirted with the idea that QBs were perhaps overvalued. And some of those people said here that the Ravens should have jettisoned Flacco for Tyrod Taylor.

How's that working out? The Jets and Bills have ceilings markedly lower than what they otherwise would be -- ceilings imposed by their QBs.

Taylor is actually a pretty good get this year for Buffalo compared to the alternatives. CThis was his first real clunker.

 

[dcmissle]

Considering the alternatives, I agree. It has become evident that former Patriots back-ups are just back-ups, and Manuel proved a disaster

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I keep thinking of the Incognito chop block penalty and how perfect a representation it was of the Bills under Rex. An obvious and unnecessary penalty by a stupid, dirty shithead of a player that Rex brought in to remake the team in his image, and the penalty coming at the perfect time to kill off any last-second comebacks.
 
It's almost as if the players are showing the same lack of focus and self-control as their coach!

 

[Shelterdog]

So in the aftermath of the 2012 season, when the world was being remade in the vision of read option play action, when the pistol was the flavor of the day, some supposedly smart people people flirted with the idea that QBs were perhaps overvalued. And some of those people said here that the Ravens should have jettisoned Flacco for Tyrod Taylor.

How's that working out? The Jets and Bills have ceilings markedly lower than what they otherwise would be -- ceilings imposed by their QBs.

 
Who are these people? Name names and use quotes because otherwise it seems like you're just boasting about kicking the shit out of some straw man.
 
The Ravens are also 19-17 since the Flacco re-signing and the bad years of the contract start next year when it becomes a $30 million a year contract.

 

[dcmissle]

Do you really want me to go back and find posts arguing that they should have let Flacco go and rode Tyrod Taylor?  Because I certainly can find them.  Who posted that is pretty much irrelevant.
 
EDIT.  In any case, the point of this ultimately is not about Flacco and the Ravens.  It's about obstacles facing the Bills and Jets and the wonderful notion about QBs being fungible that surfaced circa 2012.  And that argument absolutely was made -- plug and play from the systems now predominant in college.