2015 Cowboys: Romo Nomo
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I didn't get to watch all of the Seattle game but from what I saw I think the Cowboys (with Romo) are perhaps the best team in the NFC. The defense was ferocious against NY the week before and the OL is downright nasty. I really think that if they can just get past Philly on Sunday that they're going to win the east and then have as good a shot at anyone else in the conference come playoff time.
I know I t's crazy to call a 2-5 team that's lost 5 straight the team to beat, but I think they are.
I know I t's crazy to call a 2-5 team that's lost 5 straight the team to beat, but I think they are.
Oil Can Dan said:
Despite the doom and gloom, there's still a slight chance for them to salvage their season. Outside of Car/Buf/GB, the back end of the schedule doesn't look particularly daunting. If they can snag a win against Tampa and Romo returns on 11/22 as scheduled, they'd still have a puncher's chance at getting in. But that would require taking two of the aforementioned three tough games. The calculus changes drastically if they can beat Philly on Sunday but you won't see me holding my breath for that one.
It's division or bust at this point. There's no way in hell the wild card is coming out of the East.
With that said, I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say they're the team to beat. The margin for error is about the width of a cell nucleus and if Romo comes back with any kind of rust, they're toast. Greg is right. They needed to win 2-3 games in Romo's absence to have a realistic chance. Barring some sort of miracle, that ship will officially set sail on Sunday night.
This team (healthy) with a high draft pick would be very scary next year.
Officially, the Raiders swap their 6th for the Cowboy's 5th round pick to complete the Bryce Butler trade, now that Butler has been on the 'boys active roster for six games. The Cowboys will only have a 4th and Oakland's 6th on day 3 of this draft.
Officially, the Raiders swap their 6th for the Cowboy's 5th round pick to complete the Bryce Butler trade, now that Butler has been on the 'boys active roster for six games. The Cowboys will only have a 4th and Oakland's 6th on day 3 of this draft.
Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless 4m4 minutes ago
My Cowboys WILL beat the Eagles. Then we'll see who the crybabies are.
My Cowboys WILL beat the Eagles. Then we'll see who the crybabies are.
Time for the Cowboys to pull the plug on any thought of bringing Romo back. Go 2-14 or 3-13 and get a top 3 pick.
No sense trying to steal a couple of extra wins that will only hurt you in what you are playing for now, which is draft position.
No sense trying to steal a couple of extra wins that will only hurt you in what you are playing for now, which is draft position.
Yep, sadly for our cowboy fan friends here I don't see it any other way either. I know most teams in the league are pretty well fuckered if their starting QB goes down, but if you can't win at least 1 game doesn't that say something about the rest of the makeup of your team?
And obviously any team that employs Hardy deserves every loss it gets. Sucks for the rest of the non woman beating teammates for sure though.
And obviously any team that employs Hardy deserves every loss it gets. Sucks for the rest of the non woman beating teammates for sure though.
They won't do that for a lot of reasons, one being they'll want to get Romo back to playing well with the team, getting his timing back with his receivers and the rest of the offense for the sake of next year.
It' isn't just Romo though, although his absence is clearly the most impactful..
Orlando Scandrick, their #1 CB, didn't play a down this season. Dez Bryant and Randy Gregory both get multiple-week injuries in the first game. Lance Dunbar, who had become a big part of the offense, is lost for the season early on. Tonight Sean Lee (who also left the NO game) and his backup both get hurt.
Also, Rolando McClain and (yes, Greg Hardy) were both unavailable the first four weeks of the season, justifiably so, and Joseph Randle started the season at RB, went off the rails, and isn't even with the team any more.
So, I'm not sure any non-Belichick coached team could have survived all the multiple-week injuries and other absences to key players that the Cowboys have suffered. And no I'm not looking for sympathy, that's the league and the team involved.
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Bartending tonight... had to call the cops for the first time ever because a Cowboys fan was throwing chairs around after the loss. I couldn't get him to leave.
Property damage and he also tried to fight two guys who were trying to calm him down.
Fuck the Cowboys.
Property damage and he also tried to fight two guys who were trying to calm him down.
Fuck the Cowboys.
You can just as easily credit them for being competitive in every game other than vs. New England. Romo to the Weeden/Cassell combo is a huge downgrade, with Romo being a top 3 QB in football last year. He was ridiculously efficient working off the strong run game, which is still around this year (FO has them at #5, 8th in both yards and ya/a). The defense has also been better this year. It's easy to see this team as one of the better NFC teams with Romo, top 3 QBs are a pretty big deal.
That's a delightful story. I'm curious, though, what the fuck does it have to do with anything?
I agree, time to throttle back. But, as a Red Sox fan, at least it's familiar ground.
I'm a total Romo fanboi, sad to see him miss a season as his clock starts to run out. I really really want to see him get just one SB ring. It's how I imagine if Big Papi were still waiting...
Cowboys fans being Cowboys fans I guess? If this were the only time I had seen one having a public meltdown, then I wouldn't have mentioned it.
Eh, you are two back in the loss column and three of your next four games are against average or below average teams. And you have not lost the h2h tiebreaker with the Eagles or the Giants.
The 2013 Packers didn't have your D or your running game and still managed not to lose 3 of the 8 games Rodgers missed. The Giants are probably slightly better than the Bears or Lions were that year, but so what – it can be done.
There's no way the Cowboys are packing it in for the season and not putting Romo on the field as soon as he's healthy enough to be there. I suspect that in Jerry's mind going 8-8 is much better than going 3-13 regardless of the impact on the draft positioning.
And I know I'm in the minority but I still say they're not out of the division race just yet. Yes, the odds got longer last night, but put Romo on the field with Dez back and McFadden having emerged as a serious threat and that team is going to win a lot of games. The Redskins will not be in the race, the Giants defense will be their downfall and the Eagles have too many question marks for this to be over. The Cowboys are only two games back in the division in the loss column with eight to play. If they can just get in to the dance they automatically become that team that nobody wants to play regardless of their seeding.
Then again maybe it's just that I've been so repeatedly burned by the Cowboys over the past 30 years that I can't see them straight.
And I know I'm in the minority but I still say they're not out of the division race just yet. Yes, the odds got longer last night, but put Romo on the field with Dez back and McFadden having emerged as a serious threat and that team is going to win a lot of games. The Redskins will not be in the race, the Giants defense will be their downfall and the Eagles have too many question marks for this to be over. The Cowboys are only two games back in the division in the loss column with eight to play. If they can just get in to the dance they automatically become that team that nobody wants to play regardless of their seeding.
Then again maybe it's just that I've been so repeatedly burned by the Cowboys over the past 30 years that I can't see them straight.
There's no way the Cowboys are going to play it safe, because frankly they can still dream on 8-8 and the NFC East is bad. The Eagles are going to be hard to catch given the relative schedules, the Cowboys have the Panthers and away at Green bay after Romo is back.
If they can't beat Tampa Bay this weekend, then they're 2-7 with realistically one of those two tough games as a loss. Which makes an ABSOLUTE best case of 8-8 and a realistic of something like 7-9. So this is a big game, the last ex Romo. 8-8 COULD be in the running for the East.
If the Eagles were to beat their next three very winnable games (dolphins, Tampa and @ Lions) and be 7-4 going into the loss to the Patriots (so 7-5). IF that's the case you'd might need to think about punting the season. End of the day you just showed how much you need a Romo replacement, he's 35 and has his back injuries and now this etc. You got to think about looking for a replacement in the next year or two right? Or wait until he's done - stink - and then get a high pick and do it then. This is the time to find your Rodgers. Ideally.
If they can't beat Tampa Bay this weekend, then they're 2-7 with realistically one of those two tough games as a loss. Which makes an ABSOLUTE best case of 8-8 and a realistic of something like 7-9. So this is a big game, the last ex Romo. 8-8 COULD be in the running for the East.
If the Eagles were to beat their next three very winnable games (dolphins, Tampa and @ Lions) and be 7-4 going into the loss to the Patriots (so 7-5). IF that's the case you'd might need to think about punting the season. End of the day you just showed how much you need a Romo replacement, he's 35 and has his back injuries and now this etc. You got to think about looking for a replacement in the next year or two right? Or wait until he's done - stink - and then get a high pick and do it then. This is the time to find your Rodgers. Ideally.
I think that's why there's this groundswell of people wanting the season to be punted. Doing so would preserve Romo for a last-gasp attempt in 2016 (and 2017, if they're lucky) and give them a top 10 pick in April. That vastly increases the odds of finding a Roethlisberger or Cutler type who falls out of the top 5 for some reason or another.
Were the season to end today, they would be picking 8th. This CBS mock draft has them taking Laqon Treadwell with that pick. But the smart decision there would be to snag Jared Goff* (or even Connor Cook, if that's their preference) and let him learn under Romo for a couple years. The Cowboys have, somehow, learned to draft smart recently, so I can rest easy knowing that if that situation were to come up, they won't do something stupid like take a desperate reach for a running back.
This looks like a good QB draft at first glance so they would be stupid to pass up the opportunity to groom Romo's replacement should that opportunity present itself. Happily, there's no Johnny Manziel in that draft, meaning Stephen won't be having to snatch any draft cards away from Jerruh.
*The Rodgers/Goff Cal connection is a total coincidence.
Were the season to end today, they would be picking 8th. This CBS mock draft has them taking Laqon Treadwell with that pick. But the smart decision there would be to snag Jared Goff* (or even Connor Cook, if that's their preference) and let him learn under Romo for a couple years. The Cowboys have, somehow, learned to draft smart recently, so I can rest easy knowing that if that situation were to come up, they won't do something stupid like take a desperate reach for a running back.
This looks like a good QB draft at first glance so they would be stupid to pass up the opportunity to groom Romo's replacement should that opportunity present itself. Happily, there's no Johnny Manziel in that draft, meaning Stephen won't be having to snatch any draft cards away from Jerruh.
*The Rodgers/Goff Cal connection is a total coincidence.
All the wishful, logical thinking in the world is not changing what happens next, Cowboy fan. Say hello to Johnny Football. Say goodbye to your second round pick.
BTW...didn't some asshole claim the Cowboys would fall apart completely if Romo got hurt because their backup plan sucked?
No way a guy with JFF's still to be updated status in the substance abuse program nets a #2.
The Weeden plan wasn't a whole hell of a lot worse than other back up QB plans out there. Green Bay has gotten away with it a for a few years in a row. Jerrah thought a below average QB who knows the system with well above average talent around him would equal .500 football. If Dez and several defensive playmakers are not also hurt, and they win a couple OT coin flips, that probably holds.
I think focusing on what loathsome human beings Jerrah and his boy Steven are is more fair than critiquing their work as GMs. I think thry have done an excellent job and just had one of those really horrible injury luck seasons the NFL gives you in one out of every ten seasons. My only real critique is the way they sacrificed multiple second day picks for temp loan parts like Matt Cassell and Bryce Butler.
Other people come into this thread and troll Cowboys fans about bar fights. (which is just dumb, but whatever)
I come to this thread to mess with Bosoxen's hopes & dreams. ;-)
I'm not sure Cassell is going to end up being a temporary thing. At least until they bring in the heir apparent, he may stick with the team. They have looked much better with him than with Weeden - pick 6's notwithstanding.
You know I will cut you, right?
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Jon MachotaVerified account@jonmachotaJerry Jones on @1053thefan: There are no set of circumstances where we wouldn't play Tony Romo when he's eligible to return vs. Miami
One forced turnover in the last six games is preposterous - they're like the anti-Giants. If they had anything close to normal TO luck, they are probably 2-4 or maybe even 3-3 over these six games and in good shape to take the division.
I know with the Steelers they are probably 0-4 without Ben if they hadn't managed to secure TOs in the Chargers and Cards games (and hopefully the upcoming Browns game). So it's not like they've prepared for this situation either.
I know with the Steelers they are probably 0-4 without Ben if they hadn't managed to secure TOs in the Chargers and Cards games (and hopefully the upcoming Browns game). So it's not like they've prepared for this situation either.
Cowboys run this article on their website - http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/11/10/helman-theres-nothing-left-lose-giving-kellen-moore-chance
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Appreciate it. The article's worth a read, too.
But I get it - 140 characters and moving on.
It would still be great if you guys could figure out a way to tie article comments into the forums, so the articles could be more easily discussed here. We used to talk about the early ITP articles a lot more when they were posted here in an organized way.
Forum integration is not possible, says Nip. If it could work, he'd have made it work for SoSH Baseball.
In the past ITP has "systematically" started threads here, but the click-throughs are low, and discussion was spotty. And it bothered lots of people, who rightly pointed out they could click if they wanted. So we stopped. Currently, we all try to drop in stuff into threads, when it relates. It's not consistent because we're busy, like everyone, and personally, I like just talking about football instead of our work.
It'll always be our home forum - and we're happy to talk football with people here when asked - but ITP shouldn't "organize" this forum. ITP's content has comments, and we're very responsive to those discussions.
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If people want to discuss ITP content, they are more than welcome to comment and talk back to us directly on the site.
After Hardy was put on the exempt list, the 2014 Panthers had a 10-game stretch in which they went 1-8-1. They then won four straight games in December to win the very crappy NFC South division and get into the playoffs.
Romo is going to have to pull a rabbit out of his ass and win out in order for the Cowboys to pull off a similar feat but, clearly, the solution for the Cowboys is to cut Hardy.
Romo is going to have to pull a rabbit out of his ass and win out in order for the Cowboys to pull off a similar feat but, clearly, the solution for the Cowboys is to cut Hardy.
Also, this.
Tests indicate Romo's collarbone has healed, and he is on track to play Sunday.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14147187/tony-romo-dallas-cowboys-expected-play-week-11-vs-miami-dolphins
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14147187/tony-romo-dallas-cowboys-expected-play-week-11-vs-miami-dolphins
A radio host asks if Jerry Jones has any soul left in his heart:
http://www.theunticket.com/norms-rant-on-jerry-jones/
http://www.theunticket.com/norms-rant-on-jerry-jones/