Its still making the game closer than it has to beWell, the other saving grace is that the guys they have playing ISOball are Durant, Curry and Thompson. It's not Smart, Jaylen and Tatum.
Its still making the game closer than it has to beWell, the other saving grace is that the guys they have playing ISOball are Durant, Curry and Thompson. It's not Smart, Jaylen and Tatum.
Kyrie typically tries to avoid contact. Harden seeks it. There are indeed sequences where the former doesn't get a call that the latter might get but its largely a function of their different styles of play. You know this because while not old AF like me, you aren't a kid either. You remember Jordan Rules too.So when Kyrie bounces off a defender, he's avoiding it? If he avoids it, it wouldn't be a foul, and we wouldn't be having the conversation.
Absolutely. This is what I was talking about earlier when I said they look like the C's on offense at times, when both teams stop moving the ball. They completely went away from what they were doing in the first half. I swear Durant was getting more and more upset in the third quarter every time down the court and he didn't get a shot. He tried to make up for it in the fourth.Its still making the game closer than it has to be
lol as a rockets fan you get used to living and dying with his shot selection. I’ll take it. He hit the big 3 to tie.Harden tried to win the game with a 35 footer.
Money on Paul killing him firstAustin Rivers calling his own number again. Harden might kill him by the end of the year.
I mean, imagine having to officiate Harden against Green. The refs must suffer from PTSD.I hate Draymond, but I'd like to know what he did to commit a foul there? He went straight up, and Harden jumped into him, used his off arm to push Draymond away, and Harden got the call.
Amazing and he should have went to the line for 3 if it missed too. Harden's taken his game to another level since Paul has been out.Harden deserved that, amazing effort.
Nah man, in a 7 game series teams will force harden to give up the ball. We need a second scorer to pace the team when he’s sitting and we need a second scorer to open up the floor for Harden.I'm going to say it, I think Houston is a better team without Chris Paul. All he does is take away opportunities from Harden.
Harden may have the MOST efficient scoring season in the history of the game this year for an elite scorer. I haven't looked at any other numbers but he's at 34 ppg on less than 22 FGA which I can't imagine has ever come close to being done before. The second most efficient season just may be Harden last year with 30 on 20 per game. I'd be surprised if these weren't 1 and 2 all time with the only coming close off the top of my mind being Curry's year when he was MVP.One thing about Harden is that its not as if he is unnecessarily gunning away. He is relatively inefficient but he *has* to do this to give Houston a chance at winning. There is no second or third scoring banana. I love Capela but he can't carry a team with self generated offense. The Rockets simply are Harden.
His FGA has jumped and his FG% has dipped over this past stretch.Harden may have the MOST efficient scoring season in the history of the game this year for an elite scorer. I haven't looked at any other numbers but he's at 34 ppg on less than 22 FGA which I can't imagine has ever come close to being done before.
Well of course that is a result of Paul and Gordon being out of the lineup but FG% has nothing to do with efficiency. So instead of being the best ever efficiency he's simply among the best of the season while playing 1 on 5 offensively with Austin Rivers as a second option lol.His FGA has jumped and his FG% has dipped over this past stretch.
Harden's incredible (totally ridiculous performance tonight in an amazing game, argh) but you can't really ignore free throw attempts when measuring efficiency, since free throws take up possessions. By true shooting %, Harden this season and last season is right up there on the all-time efficiency list among high-volume scorers, but still well behind the best seasons of Steph, and slightly behind the best of Dantley and Durant.Harden may have the MOST efficient scoring season in the history of the game this year for an elite scorer.
That’s some awesome work right there. Thanks for sharing.Harden's incredible (totally ridiculous performance tonight in an amazing game, argh) but you can't really ignore free throw attempts when measuring efficiency, since free throws take up possessions. By true shooting %, Harden this season and last season is right up there on the all-time efficiency list among high-volume scorers, but still well behind the best seasons of Steph, and slightly behind the best of Dantley and Durant.
Top 15 seasons in NBA history by true shooting % (min. 28 pts per 36 minutes, min. 800 minutes played)
Curry 2017-18: 29.7 pts on .675 ts
Curry 2015-16: 31.7 pts on .669 ts
Curry 2018-19: 29.9 pts on .658 ts
Dantley 1983-84: 29.2 pts on .652 ts
Durant 2013-14: 29.9 pts on .635 ts
Durant 2015-16: 28.3 pts on .634 ts
Giannis 2018-19: 28.1 pts on .633 ts
Dantley 1985-86 29.7 pts on .629 ts
KMalone 1989-90 29.3 pts on .626 ts
Durant 2018-19 28.8 pts on .625 ts
IThomas 2016-17 30.8 pts on .625 ts (!)
Harden 2018-19 32.5 pts on .623 ts
Harden 2017-18 30.9 pts on .623 ts
Vandeweghe 1983-84 30.2 pts on .618 ts
Jordan 1988-89 29.1 pts on .614 ts
(Points are per 36 minutes).
Of course if you filter for volume > 30 pts per 36, it leaves just Curry 2015-16, IT 2016-17, and the last two Harden seasons at #1-4. And if you filter for volume > 32 pts per 36, it leaves ... just this season's Harden at #1 (but isn't very sporting, since Steph did put up 31.7 pts per 36 in 2015-16).
So, totally insane, but not "most efficient in history" if we're just talking about efficiency at reasonably elite volume.
I have no idea how this might change your list, but establishing the cutoff for “reasonably elite volume” at 28 (or 30!) points per 36 minutes is pretty insane, and entirely ignores the different scoring environments from era to era. For example, by this definition, Allen Iverson never scored at “reasonably elite volume” during a single season of his entire career, despite winning four scoring titles.Harden's incredible (totally ridiculous performance tonight in an amazing game, argh) but you can't really ignore free throw attempts when measuring efficiency, since free throws take up possessions. By true shooting %, Harden this season and last season is right up there on the all-time efficiency list among high-volume scorers, but still well behind the best seasons of Steph, and slightly behind the best of Dantley and Durant.
Top 15 seasons in NBA history by true shooting % (min. 28 pts per 36 minutes, min. 800 minutes played)
Curry 2017-18: 29.7 pts on .675 ts
Curry 2015-16: 31.7 pts on .669 ts
Curry 2018-19: 29.9 pts on .658 ts
Dantley 1983-84: 29.2 pts on .652 ts
Durant 2013-14: 29.9 pts on .635 ts
Durant 2015-16: 28.3 pts on .634 ts
Giannis 2018-19: 28.1 pts on .633 ts
Dantley 1985-86 29.7 pts on .629 ts
KMalone 1989-90 29.3 pts on .626 ts
Durant 2018-19 28.8 pts on .625 ts
IThomas 2016-17 30.8 pts on .625 ts (!)
Harden 2018-19 32.5 pts on .623 ts
Harden 2017-18 30.9 pts on .623 ts
Vandeweghe 1983-84 30.2 pts on .618 ts
Jordan 1988-89 29.1 pts on .614 ts
(Points are per 36 minutes).
Of course if you filter for volume > 30 pts per 36, it leaves just Curry 2015-16, IT 2016-17, and the last two Harden seasons at #1-4. And if you filter for volume > 32 pts per 36, it leaves ... just this season's Harden at #1 (but isn't very sporting, since Steph did put up 31.7 pts per 36 in 2015-16).
So, totally insane, but not "most efficient in history" if we're just talking about efficiency at reasonably elite volume.
Nitpick, but both were on the board when the Celtics pick came up, Ainge passed on Bell to take Semi, Golden State then took Bell with the next pick.So its still early in their respective careers but remember when Cs fans were bummed that Golden State was able to nab Jordan Bell ahead of Semi Ojeleye. Neither guy is getting a ton of run and Bell is a decent defender in spots. But the delta between the two is not big at all, especially given Semi's ability to hit the three occasionally vs never for Bell.
No one has scored over 33 Pts/G in under 23 FGA/G so yes Harden would be the first.Harden may have the MOST efficient scoring season in the history of the game this year for an elite scorer. I haven't looked at any other numbers but he's at 34 ppg on less than 22 FGA which I can't imagine has ever come close to being done before. The second most efficient season just may be Harden last year with 30 on 20 per game. I'd be surprised if these weren't 1 and 2 all time with the only coming close off the top of my mind being Curry's year when he was MVP.
I mean, you have to set the cut-off somewhere. I picked 28 points per 36 as it seems in the same ballpark of "elite volume" as Harden's 32.3 and Steph's 31.7, but you could also look at 25 or 20, and/or use the more traditional PPG.I have no idea how this might change your list, but establishing the cutoff for “reasonably elite volume” at 28 (or 30!) points per 36 minutes is pretty insane, and entirely ignores the different scoring environments from era to era. For example, by this definition, Allen Iverson never scored at “reasonably elite volume” during a single season of his entire career, despite winning four scoring titles.
Change 20 to 16 and see which two sometime Celtics players grab the top five positions. Any guesses?Fwiw, here's the all-time TS% list if we make it an even 20 PPG minimum (and a minimum 1500 minutes played). First thing that jumps out is more appearances by Barkley and McHale.
He was awful to start the year, and there were lots of reports that he basically spent the summer partying and getting fat after signing his new deal.Capela was a beast last night, but both his raw +/- and RPM numbers are pretty bad this year. Any ideas on what's up with that?
Understood but was just responding to the question and the list generated brings up some interesting names. Kind of amazing that West and the Big O were able to do it without the 3 point shot, and MJ's season was basically without the 3P shot as well.@wade boggs chicken dinner As noted above to HRB, "points per fga" is really dubious measure of scoring efficiency. It basically assumes that getting fouled and hitting one of two free throws is a more efficient use of a possession than, say, a four-point play. Or put another way: it assumes that if you get fouled when shooting, it's more efficient to miss the shot than hit it. ;-P