2020 NFL: Wk.17 Game Thread

heavyde050

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HoF talent.

My god. What is happening in here?

If Rodgers is leading the league in TDs, with the new rules that everyone plays under, that nullifies his statistics because the rules are easier for everyone? So no matter who leads the league in TDs or yards, it doesn't matter, they don't count?
Not at all. I am just a Pats/Brady fan and got sick of hearing how Rodgers was the GOAT.

Edit - my original post was not clear at all. I meant to reference his career stats. Not this season - he is the MVP this year.
 

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So, Pats win looks to have cost them 3 spots in draft. If I’m not mistaken, they would have had 12th pick had they lost and now it looks like 15, no?
 

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Not at all. I am just a Pats/Brady fan and got sick of hearing how Rodgers was the GOAT.
You're not hearing a lot of Rodgers GOAT talk and you haven't in a few years. But he's not a Hall of Fame talent. He's a first ballot, unanimous vote, Hall of Famer. He's one of the best of all time.
 

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It's funny that The Red Zone has not shown a single play of Denver and the Raiders in hours and that game is 24/24 with some points being scored.
 

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It's funny that The Red Zone has not shown a single play of Denver and the Raiders in hours and that game is 24/24 with some points being scored.
Well, that game's wholly irrelevant. Are they only showing games that have playoff implications?
 

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HoF talent.

My god. What is happening in here?

If Rodgers is leading the league in TDs, with the new rules that everyone plays under, that nullifies his statistics because the rules are easier for everyone? So no matter who leads the league in TDs or yards, it doesn't matter, they don't count?
In my lifetime, as a Patriots fan, the QB that would terrify me the most down 4 with the ball under two minutes left would Rodgers.

I'd love to see the Packers get to the Super Bowl for no other reason than to see Rodgers pull the game out in the closing seconds.

Because you know he will.
 

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You're not hearing a lot of Rodgers GOAT talk and you haven't in a few years. But he's not a Hall of Fame talent. He's a first ballot, unanimous vote, Hall of Famer. He's one of the best of all time.
I agree completely - I am saying he isn’t the GOAT. He 100% first ballot unanimous vote.
 

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Well, that game's wholly irrelevant. Are they only showing games that have playoff implications?
Yes. It's just funny, because the Raiders/Denver game has been back and forth. They did show the scores, well after the fact, because they have to show the scores. Otherwise, a dead zone on the Red Zone for Las Vegas.
 

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In my lifetime, as a Patriots fan, the QB that would terrify me the most down 4 with the ball under two minutes left would Rodgers.

I'd love to see the Packers get to the Super Bowl for no other reason than to see Rodgers pull the game out in the closing seconds.

Because you know he will.
Terrify you more than Brady?
 

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In terms of pure value per the draft pick chart, the difference in value is basically a late 3rd.
But we'll never know what it means in terms of actual value. Maybe it makes the difference between getting an All Pro and getting a bust.

EDIT: Or, less likely, vice versa.
 

heavyde050

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I got you. I hear "Hall of Fame talent" and I think of Matt Stafford. But I understand now. And I am wholeheartedly in agreement.
The most fascinating thing about Rodgers is was the drafting of Jordan Love his Jimmy G moment. Brady went to another level late in his career when pushed.
 

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Here’s my guess at the WC schedule
Saturday

1:00: Indy/Tennessee at Buffalo ABC/ESPN

4:30: LA Rams at Seattle Fox

8:15: Cleveland at Pittsburgh CBS



Sunday

1:00: Baltimore at AFC South CBS

4:30 Chicago at New Orleans Fox

8:15: Tampa Bay at NFC East NBC
 

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But we'll never know what it means in terms of actual value. Maybe it makes the difference between getting an All Pro and getting a bust.

EDIT: Or, less likely, vice versa.
Yup. It will be interesting to see who’s there at 12 and not 15, that’s for sure. I’m one of the draft pick nuts who wanted us to lose every game since like November. Oh well.
 

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The Bears are in the playoffs at 8-8 and either Washington is in at 7-9 or the Gmen are in at 6-10.

Meanwhile, Miami is out at 10-6.