2021-2022 Bruins Season Thread

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That doesn't sound great. So much for my dream of trading Swayman for Chychrun.

Dom did his midseason awards and he has Mr. Perfect as the best defensive forward by about 8 miles.

https://theathletic.com/3113816/2022/02/07/nhl-awards-watch-auston-matthews-johnny-gaudreau-mikko-rantanen-its-a-wide-open-race-for-the-hart-trophy/

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I think it'll be more. Marchand always gets a game or two more than expected from these clowns. I'm guessing 10?
 

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I'd really like to know what the magic words were that Jarry said to Marchand. Marchand is basically universally acknowledged as the biggest trash talker in the NHL. I don't get the impression that he's particularly thin skinned when guys chirp back. Must've invoked Marchand's kids or something that significantly crosses the line. Not that it matters in terms of the forthcoming suspension.
 

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It's telling to me that Marchand's "intent to injure" is going to be 10 games and Foligno kneed a guy in the head last night and its a phone call.

Vaak gets boarded and hurt, not even a penalty. Marchand himself got boarded, no suspension for a repeat offender.

What is it exactly Parros is suspending? Guys he doesnt like, or plays he thinks are "shameful" or actual dangerous plays. Parros is incredibly bad at his job, its astounding.

I remember him in that enforcer doc talking about the code and the nobility of the fighter (not self serving at all) and I can absolutely see that attitude and how he doles out inconsistent punishment. Marchand probably deserves a couple but this is really a nothing play. What a dumb league.
 

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I can’t help but wonder if Bergy getting taken out also contributed to Marchands frustration.
I did not get to watch the game (was at Hamilton with my daughter, so I feel like I won this one), but I 100% think Bergy getting taken out contributed to it, and, like others, I would love to know the magic words that came out of Jarry's mouth. I know he was a shithead ion the day, but this stuff has been almost entirely cut out of his game over the last 4-5 years or so. For him to go off the deep end so wildly make me think it really wasn't a "nothingburger" (someone in the game thread said this is how Jarry treated it).

And I think it's absolutely worth an in person hearing. Cheap shot + way post whistle + opposing team's goalie + post punch stick to the face (takes away the "spur of the moment" defense) = plenty of time for Brad to rest his shoulder.

Anyone's (re: my) hopes of being able to win arguments with people that he's significantly cleaned up his game, and the Tom Wilson's of the world are the ones we need to police out of the game are gone, as well.
 

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It's telling to me that Marchand's "intent to injure" is going to be 10 games and Foligno kneed a guy in the head last night and its a phone call.

Vaak gets boarded and hurt, not even a penalty. Marchand himself got boarded, no suspension for a repeat offender.

What is it exactly Parros is suspending? Guys he doesnt like, or plays he thinks are "shameful" or actual dangerous plays. Parros is incredibly bad at his job, its astounding.

I remember him in that enforcer doc talking about the code and the nobility of the fighter (not self serving at all) and I can absolutely see that attitude and how he doles out inconsistent punishment. Marchand probably deserves a couple but this is really a nothing play. What a dumb league.
I know I keep repeating this every time it comes up but I truly believe that they really don’t want to suspend anyone. They only act when they feel like they have to, and usually “have to” means that there is considerable pressure in the media for them to do something. And most of the media that is discussing hockey in English that the guys at the league office in Toronto is consuming is local talk radio. So every time Marchand does something, it’s under a microscope because of how much people hate him in Toronto. So Parros and everyone else at that office his hearing fan and media outrage over things that certain guys do, and they don’t hear outrage about guys nobody up there cares about. So Marchand will get a big suspension, and Yanni Gourde can hit guys in the numbers and not worry about it (until he Injures, or god forbid licks a guy on the Maple Leafs).
 

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I know I keep repeating this every time it comes up but I truly believe that they really don’t want to suspend anyone. They only act when they feel like they have to, and usually “have to” means that there is considerable pressure in the media for them to do something. And most of the media that is discussing hockey in English that the guys at the league office in Toronto is consuming is local talk radio. So every time Marchand does something, it’s under a microscope because of how much people hate him in Toronto. So Parros and everyone else at that office his hearing fan and media outrage over things that certain guys do, and they don’t hear outrage about guys nobody up there cares about. So Marchand will get a big suspension, and Yanni Gourde can hit guys in the numbers and not worry about it (until he Injures, or god forbid licks a guy on the Maple Leafs).
I think this is probably right. What a dumb way to run a league?
 

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I think he did clean up his game, significantly. He went 3 seasons without incident before the bullshit slew foot suspension this year. He openly said that hearing and suspension demoralized him because he'd worked so hard to clean his game up and he didn't undeerstand why DoPS penalized him for that incident as opposed to numerous other examples (particularly PK Subban) getting away, multiple times, with nothing more than a fine.

His wires crossed last night. It was dumb but I think it's being overblown, which typically happens with him. Knowing what Jarry said to him would put context around the situation.

Edit: Jarry didn't seem to be too worked up about Marchand and gave a "it stays on the ice" reponse.

View: https://twitter.com/TaylorHaasePGH/status/1491245912198639618?s=20&t=zqlWCgpObBctF4nrXVPHpA
 

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I think he did clean up his game, significantly. He went 3 seasons without incident before the bullshit slew foot suspension this year. He openly said that hearing and suspension demoralized him because he'd worked so hard to clean his game up and he didn't undeerstand why DoPS penalized him for that incident as opposed to numerous other examples (particularly PK Subban) getting away, multiple times, with nothing more than a fine.

His wires crossed last night. It was dumb but I think it's being overblown, which typically happens with him. Knowing what Jarry said to him would put context around the situation.

Edit: Jarry didn't seem to be too worked up about Marchand and gave a "it stays on the ice" reponse.

View: https://twitter.com/TaylorHaasePGH/status/1491245912198639618?s=20&t=zqlWCgpObBctF4nrXVPHpA
Marchand also went out of his way to fuck with Jarry as he was trying to give a kid a puck at the end of the 2nd period. I just think Marchand was fired up due to the Bergeron injury and the fact Jarry singlehandedly stole the game for PIT. Marchand deserves what ever punishment he gets, you can't allow players to sucker punch a goalie like that. I'm a bit surprised PIT didn't respond more forcefully but perhaps not all of them saw what he did in the scrum and just wanted to get out of there with a W.
 

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His wires crossed last night. It was dumb but I think it's being overblown, which typically happens with him.
I've never seen him flip out like that. Usually the stuff he does is trying to get under others skin, etc. That was him seeing red, which was jarring to me.

I also expected WAY worse after seeing the commentary on it, then I watched the vid was like "uhhh...that's it?". Calling it intent to injure after Jarry swung his stick like an ax at Coyle's gut is rich though.
 

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Marchand also went out of his way to fuck with Jarry as he was trying to give a kid a puck at the end of the 2nd period. I just think Marchand was fired up due to the Bergeron injury and the fact Jarry singlehandedly stole the game for PIT. Marchand deserves what ever punishment he gets, you can't allow players to sucker punch a goalie like that. I'm a bit surprised PIT didn't respond more forcefully but perhaps not all of them saw what he did in the scrum and just wanted to get out of there with a W.
Jarry covers the puck. Marchand is standing, flat footed, a few feet away at the post. Marchand doesn't appear to be interested in a scrum or shenangigans. He didn't even take a post whistle swipe at the puck, whcih you often see in these net mouth coverups. On the overhead camera, it's pretty clear that after covering the puck, Jarry looks at Marchand and says something. Marchand reacts by punching him, then sticks his stick in Jarry's face as the ref is hauling him away. Maybe there was some built up frustration, but to me, it's not a premeditated thing. Jarry said something, Marchand lost it. Doesn't excuse Marchand's actions but I don't think Marchand was out there trying to get to Jarry.

The stick to the face is probably worse than the punch. The league wasted zero time rescinding Scott Walker's intent to injure auto-suspension after he sucker punched Aaron Ward. That punch literally broke Ward's face. This was closer to a shove and seemed like your run of the mill scrum punch.

View: https://youtu.be/bOFU_wvmZRQ
 

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I assume the intent to injure has to do with run of the play vs. after the play. For boardings and whatnot you can use the "Oops, it’s a fast game and people move suddenly" defense. That holds less water when you’re just standing around after a whistle.
 

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I've never seen him flip out like that. Usually the stuff he does is trying to get under others skin, etc. That was him seeing red, which was jarring to me.

I also expected WAY worse after seeing the commentary on it, then I watched the vid was like "uhhh...that's it?". Calling it intent to injure after Jarry swung his stick like an ax at Coyle's gut is rich though.
This was “I was once took a skate off to attack a guy”. He was “out of it”. Definitely on tilt.

Really is out of character for him
 

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Marchand also went out of his way to fuck with Jarry as he was trying to give a kid a puck at the end of the 2nd period. I just think Marchand was fired up due to the Bergeron injury and the fact Jarry singlehandedly stole the game for PIT. Marchand deserves what ever punishment he gets, you can't allow players to sucker punch a goalie like that. I'm a bit surprised PIT didn't respond more forcefully but perhaps not all of them saw what he did in the scrum and just wanted to get out of there with a W.
I wonder if some hassle with Jarry precipitated that incident at the end of the 2nd. Maybe Jarry cracked some ankles with his stick. Marchand and Jarry were barking at each other as they skated off at the end of the period.

Six weeks ago Jarry got a double minor for butt-ending Mason Geersten of the Devils when they were skating back to their benches at a TV time out.

https://www.pensburgh.com/2021/12/19/22845776/pens-devils-recap-not-pretty-but-still-pretty-nice-pittsburgh-wins-seventh-straight-game
 

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Looks like I picked the right night to go with the Celtics. DOPS is going to make an example out of Marchand, and while consequences are warranted, I have no faith the punishment will fit the crime.
 

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I've never seen him flip out like that. Usually the stuff he does is trying to get under others skin, etc. That was him seeing red, which was jarring to me.

I also expected WAY worse after seeing the commentary on it, then I watched the vid was like "uhhh...that's it?". Calling it intent to injure after Jarry swung his stick like an ax at Coyle's gut is rich though.
That's what I'm saying. I was expecting it to be some kind of big swing and blow to the guy's head followed by a Matt Cooke type of swing of the stick. How is what he did 5 games plus other than the fact that the league wants to hold stuff over his head that he did many years earlier?
 

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Also remember that Marchand publicly ripped the league over the players not going to the Olympics. I wouldn’t put it past them to add a few games to this out of spite for that either.
 

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I had my ten yo at the game last night and Marchand gave me great coaching fodder to talk about controlling your emotions and not being selfish.

It is really disappointing that he refuses to do so.
 

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I had my ten yo at the game last night and Marchand gave me great coaching fodder to talk about controlling your emotions and not being selfish.

It is really disappointing that he refuses to do so.
Yep. If he doesn't want to be thrown into the wheel of justice, he needs to cut the shit. We can talk all day about what is fair or not for a suspension, but he should have avoided the behavior in the first place. Just skate away. Selfish and unneeded.
 

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Yep. If he doesn't want to be thrown into the wheel of justice, he needs to cut the shit. We can talk all day about what is fair or not for a suspension, but he should have avoided the behavior in the first place. Just skate away. Selfish and unneeded.
He did cut the shit. For three years. And got a garbage suspension for being stronger and having better leverage than a guy, skating in the same direction, in open ice.

Three-six for this is fine, IMHO though. You can’t go at someone’s head with a stick like that, not because of what actually happened here, but because of how easily it can go wrong.
 

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He did cut the shit. For three years. And got a garbage suspension for being stronger and having better leverage than a guy, skating in the same direction, in open ice.

Three-six for this is fine, IMHO though. You can’t go at someone’s head with a stick like that, not because of what actually happened here, but because of how easily it can go wrong.
He did cut the shit, until he didn't. But your second paragraph highlights that you get that.
 

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Right, but my point is that he gets thrown into the wheel of justice anyway. It’s like telling someone to lock the door so they don’t get robbed, then someone breaks in through the window and steals their shit, then, a couple weeks later, they forget to lock the door and someone breaks in again, and you say that no one would break in if only they locked the door.

Yeah, he should have locked the door. But Player Safety breaks in anyway.
 

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He did cut the shit, until he didn't. But your second paragraph highlights that you get that.
I think it's fair to critique his first suspension as being entirely unjustified. He did nothing wrong; just caught the player going the wrong way at the last minute.

His actions the other night, however, were a completely unforced error. I never thought it justified 10 or more games, but he should be relieved he got the 6.
 

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Yeah, I'm fully on board with the league have it out for him and the Bruins but the nonsense the other night was stupid and unnecessary. Marchand should know better by now, I don't care what Jarry said to him.
 

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Right, but my point is that he gets thrown into the wheel of justice anyway. It’s like telling someone to lock the door so they don’t get robbed, then someone breaks in through the window and steals their shit, then, a couple weeks later, they forget to lock the door and someone breaks in again, and you say that no one would break in if only they locked the door.

Yeah, he should have locked the door. But Player Safety breaks in anyway.
I was ranting to a friend about this last night. I said its clear that Parros has favorites (Tom Wilson clearly) and brings his dogshit warrior code ethos to these decisions with no sense of precedent or justice at all. All the things that I think we all agree on here. But my buddy said "yeah all that is probably true but Marchand has to stop giving him at bats." Yup. Hard to argue with that. I don't think this was something that gets another guy more than 1 game, but we all just assumed that Brad was getting 10 because of all the reasons I stated before. He should know that too. So dumb.

Those six games:

Tonight vs Carolina
Sat vs Ottawa
Tues vs Rangers
Thus vs Islanders
2/19 vs Senators
2/21 vs Avs

I don't see more than 6 points there without Bergeron and Marchand and could easily see them getting fewer and Marchand bears some responsibility for that. I'm annoyed.
 

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I'd like to use this time to get another look at Studnicka. But sigh.
I’m with you on this. Put him between DeBrusk and Steen. He’s played with Steen and his speed would complement DeBrusk’s. Give Studnicka the chance to make mistakes as long as he learns from them. Let’s see what we’ve got in him.

The Bruins player personnel staff must perceive some important holes game. Defense? Poor read-and-react judgment? Lack of competitiveness?
 

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Please play him at center. Please play him at center…

[Edit: Fluto says he’s on the Bruins ice this morning - no lines yet]

[2nd Edit: Apparently Studnicka is in tonight, centering Frederic and Foligno. At least he’s at center, but not much offensive skill to work with there.]


I’d love to see what he could do in between Marchand and Steen (in about 2 weeks).


Hall Haula Pasta

DeBrusk Studnicka Steen

Foligno Coyle Smith

Fred/Blidh Nosek Lazar



Hall Haula Pasta

Marchand Studnicka Steen

DeBrusk Coyle Smith

Foligno/Fred/Blidh Nosek Lazar
 
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