I think anywhere up to 35, I can look at and at least understand (as in Jaylen is not a top 35 player). I don’t agree with it but it also doesn’t read like it’s ludicrous.
This is a good post, and you're underselling JB. He made 2nd team All-NBA
I'm a big proponent of rotation pairings, +/-, and On-Off BUT individual, 2-man or 3-5 are ALL pretty noisy until we hit 1000 individual minutes played.
Here’s a list of guys I would take over Jaylen, ignoring contracts and without consideration of longevity.
It's really about what Brad and Wyc think can maximize value to the Celtics. By signing him to an extension, you are both getting an extra year of Jaylen at reasonable cost and, should you make the decision to trade Jaylen, almost certainly getting a better return than if you had traded Jaylen on an expiring deal. The extension was necessary one way or another, the worst option is just letting him walk. I don't even think it's a greater fool kind of thing, there are always going to be franchises who can't attract max players and need to put butts in seats, or teams who need 2nd options to fill out a roster. If the Celtics end up trading Jaylen and there isn't some major injury or complete fall off a cliff, they are going to get a very good to great return, even with that massive deal.
I think there’s a valid reason to deal Jaylen beyond just $$$. Next year, if you could split him into a quality wing and replacement big for Horford, you might have a better all-around team. A lineup with JT, KP, JH, and DW won’t struggle for points. But, it’ll have more risk in the event of a JT absence. Of course, if JT is hurt, we’re screwed anyways, as we saw in Game 7. JB’s scoring ability will always have significant utility in the dog days of the regular season. The open question for me is about the playoffs and finding JT the best possible supporting cast fit. I’m not sold that JB is constitutes the best possible fit that Brad can find. Of course, I would need to see Jrue brought back before committing to any JB deal.
The better way to think about it is, we need someone on the roster to complain about, even when the team is obviously a juggernaut. Last year that was Smart, before that Schroder or Theis or Langford, or Ojeleye... not long before that it was Kyrie or Mook Morris or whoever. It's just part of the condition of rooting for the Celtics. So in that sense, this isn't really about Jaylen at all, but about our own insecurities, and as such really only belongs in a general Celtics thread.
I feel like if anyone actually made an argument based on someone being inside or outside the top 35 (as opposed to 30 or 40) I'd ask them if their lifestyle had changed much since they sold The Ringer.
This seems like a symptom of watching Brown closely and getting a chance to see all of his shortcomings. A lot of these players listed have massive flaws that would probably drive you just as crazy if they were on the Celtics. Brown is a much better player than a good amount of these players, and I think he's been severely underrated on SoSH and has been pretty much since the moment he was drafted.
Word. Guy likes Fox so much that he listed him twice.
The biggest challenge was that the officials were letting everything go on Tatum and KP, which drastically lowers their effectiveness in the post. Then you combine that with some stagnant offense in JT's minutes, and things get rough.
I think your post is well taken but somewhat negative. Regarding the two points I quoted, I think they just need to just scheme for this. Have a lot of stuff in the offense and defense that lets him play to his strengths. The others guys on the team may not need that as much.
I don't agree with this. First of all ,it is early yet. Second, the Celtics are so good with Tatum on the court that stats likemthis are going to pick up the relative decline when he is off. Counting last night we have now had back to back wins where the Celtics won the Tatum bench minutes.
He also led the team in assists. The big man has a really nice passing touch.
Yeah that play was absolutely dazzling basketball in every way. And to see the ball swish in right at the buzzer (with the backboard lighting up) was just amazing.
+1
Three way tie with Holiday and White with 5 each. Brown had 4. Hauser and Pritchard had 3 each. Horford and Tatum had 2 each.
Yup, quite literally 0 minutes available for him on the Celtics when the team is healthy.
Seemed to me that during me his previous return trip to the Celtics, he had already lost a bit of his athleticism.
Curious as to what you saw that you didn't like. 0-3 from 3, but other than that I thought he was great.
Toronto scored a lot of points inside in quarters one and three, and until the late baskets he had 10 points on 4-11.
Could you explain what you mean by the bolded? I know of the phrase "got on track" / "got off track". I don't know what an untrack is, or how one gets it or not. Maybe it's a lack of a track entirely? If so, wouldn't you prefer to be tracked rather than untracked? Like a low-income person being "banked" rather than "unbanked"? If the team is playing well, are they "tracked" or "untracked"? Just need help following the latest lingo, as I'm an old and uncool guy.
Think of something along the lines of what “stuck in a rut” implies. It’s an old saying not a new one, but it has been garbled with “on track” which has the opposite meaning.
He had a few huge baskets late and some nice blocks earlier, but otherwise I didn't think he was very good. He looked discombobulated out there on a bunch of plays, passes going through his hands, falling over easily, etc.
Fortunately Brown wasn't a bystander on the last play. Someone (White in a postgame interview?) pointed out that Brown made a nice cut that opened up more room for White. Great that Brown did it, great that he got recognition for it. I love team play.
Yeah, maybe bystander wasn’t the best word because neither will ever be uninvolved in the play due to their gravity. Whether it’s a cut like Brown on that play or spacing the floor like Tatum was. I just meant nothing flowed through either.
Right, I agree, and I hope their egos can handle the lack of direct involvement because it looks the right way to play.
