Narrative: "the Celtics are amazing because they have great starters. Their depth is weak, and Tatum isn't a true top player because he's surrounded by so much talent."This is from two days ago, I’ll check the updated numbers when I have time later. But these are the best high volume five man units.
The Celtics starting five smoke teams, but their strength is being able to roll out multiple lineups that just destroy other teams. Which that is tied to Tatum, as it really doesn’t matter who you put out there with him.
Looking at PBP stats +/- is interesting.
Yes, the big thing that changed for the Celtics this year is that non-JT Jaylen lineups went from awful to very very good. Brown is +6.0 in a large sample without Tatum: that net rating is better than that of all but 3 teams in the league.
This is useful, and does seem to happen once or twice per playoff series.
That, and the Charlotte OT loss, are neck and neck for "most bizarre and inexplicable loss of the season".
Am I reading this right? What other team had 4 potential All-Stars AND the equivalent of Jrue Holiday?
Yes, their starters are really really good, and it's why the Cs can have a bench of just roleplayers with mostly shooting skills and have it work.
To me too, especially because most teams have two or three stars, so there's lineups with 1 or 2 starters and bench players, vs Boston using 2 or 3 starters and bench players. Means the starters can crank up the minutes if they need to.
I mean, I get the frustration. This is one of those teams that simply needs to win when it counts and the regular season doesn't mean much anymore. As a hurt fan of a Kyle Shanahan team, this discussion is all too familiar.
they may also ramp some players up to get used to playing 40+ mins during the playoffs.
This is what I would like to know. What’s their plus/minus when at least 3 of the big 6 are on the court and for what percentage of meaningful minutes have at least 3 of the big 6 been on the court.This is from two days ago, I’ll check the updated numbers when I have time later. But these are the best high volume five man units. It’s also why I think people writing the Bucks off are being silly.
The Celtics starting five smoke teams, but their strength is being able to roll out what feels like endless lineups that just destroy other teams. Which that is tied to Tatum, as it really doesn’t matter who you put out there with him.
"Oh, hey, sorry, I didn't see you there, Kyrie!"
I was only 5 in 1986, so I can safely say this is the best Celtics team I have ever watched. May they steamroll through the playoffs and hang banner 18 in June.
Eerie to me how similar these seasons, and the personnel, feel. Note that the '86 team was one of the few in Celtics history to roll right throught the playoffs without as much as a sweat. We won 13 of the first 14 games of those playoffs. Even the great Auerbach teams were pushed to 7 games in many playoff series....some even by .500 teams, and of course we know how 2008 went with those Game 7's.
That's what I'm hoping for (we all are, obviously). No more playing with their food and dropping home elimination games up 3-1 or whatever. Close out every series at first chance.
Yep. This team is barreling into “all-time great” territory. Please, stay healthy.
And instead of Greg Kite (38% FG, 39% FT) as the next big man, we have Kornet (70% FG, 89% FT).
And if we don't, someone could just ask Al Horford. I remember thinking "who the hell is this Horford guy, he's just a rookie but he's killing us, I thought we only had to worry about Joe Johnson... maybe this team isn't as great as I thought it was..."
Luka has ZERO interest in playing defense.
I was at one of the Atlanta games we drove down from NC. It may have been G6….complete no-show. The C’s played with all the energy of a January game in Charlotte.
The Net Difference is eventually going to wake up the NBA Media that just picks last year's winner.
OK, since we all believe Luka doesn't offer much in the way of defense, do we have any metrics that show the impact of that? Like, how does his fantastic offense net out against his bad defense?
The Game 7 box score from that series is fun to look back on. Atlanta scored just 26 points in the first half on the way to getting steamrolled in a 99-65 Celtics victory. Atlanta shot .29 from the floor for the game. Ubuntu was in full effect.
This has to be a bit demoralizing to the opponent
Sounds like a Celts-specific stat. My rule for when I hear things I can't confirm is I consider the source: National broadcast I'd assume league at large, an RSN I'd assume applies to the broadcast's specific team.
